Fat biking is not sommthing I've tried. However for me a skiing holiday is just that. I can cycle* anytime from our front door but can't ski. So it's possibly a no from me.
*well I used to before everything in my life went pear shaped 🙁
Edit: regarding the skiing on anything but snow, having skied on grass and heather, even on steep stuff, I've come to a halt rather quickly, infact far too quickly for my liking. Heather skiing was unintentional 🙂
That fatbiking idea would work nicely in resorts where they have less reliable snow conditions or a shorter season from lack of elevation.
Re:Candide
Yeah, apart from the last shot the only thing that has been doctored are the cat's exhaust emission readings. 😆
I wouldnt do fatbiking on a snowboard holiday, just a personal thing but i rarely do anything else other than 'ride' and eat dinner!
on another note. I love this. A fantastic reverse taco!
Hey Stevomcd
We rented fatbikes in Fernie last season as it was fun alternative to avoid the ski hill at the weekend. But we were there for 3 weeks and the off-piste/backcountry was shocking due to the appalling warm wet weather ... 😥
The locals had 'groomed' some of the summer MTB trails specially for fatbikes as businesses were desperate to try and encourage folks to stay.
Ordinarily cycling probably isn't something I'd consider unless I was in resort for a lengthy period and looking for something other than running or sitting in a hot-tub for an 'off day' activity ...
Late season /summer season (on a glacier) might be viable as an afternoon activity when everything is bit slushy, but:
1. Not many viable glacier resorts left
2. If I'm on a snowboard trip I like to get as much time on the board as possible
im not taking my fat bike skiing, but the thought of it as an alternative would make me much more relaxed about snow conditions in the run up to my holiday!
Most resorts have a floodlit toboggan run. How about fat biking down that after a good apres session or meal at the top.
Might be worth sellotaping everyone's EHIC cards to their foreheads first.
Winter has properly arrived in Whistler. 140cm or so at the weather station at 1680m and a lot more than that in the apline. Snow is meant to continue falling for the next few days as well. Had a great day on both mountains today, fresh (and freshish) powder to be had all day. Only downside was the 100-120kmh wind on Harmony ridge.
Here's fairly rubbish edit of the worst parts of the day. Apparently I'm rubbish at remembering to a) press record and b) clean the snow off the lens.
Looks like a fun day!
When it started with a shower scene I was worried, very worried!
Looks like a fun day 🙂
Once upon a time I tried the green rail in the Mottaret ski park. I fell off and broke a rib. As I lay in the snow, the French kids going overhead on the chair lift made "nee nar" ambulance noises. Surprisingly, Red Bull didn't come knocking.
This guy on the other hand:
[i]Winter has properly arrived in Whistler.[/i] Lucky you!
I for one am feeling relieved that I decided against booking a pre New Year trip to the Alps this year, as it appears to be deja vue, all over again! After winter arrived in the Alps at the end of Nov, its gone back to Autumn again and I expect a few people are worrying about Christmas now? 🙁
Hopefully by the time I get out there mid Jan....winter really WILL have arrived.
whatnobeer - glad you're getting your just deserts. Hope it makes up for last winter.
Now if we could just get some really big dumps in Europe, that would be great 😀
Plenty of snow in Avoriaz.
Yep, off to AdH on Boxing Day and getting slightly concerned at lack of forecast snow now...Now if we could just get some really big dumps in Europe, that would be great
Not much snow in the Dolomites yet, although I'm not going until late February so am fairly hopeful they'll have had plenty by then 😉
I am also a proud owner of some Hestra Heli mitts because of this thread, just arrived this moring and these things are the dogs's danglies 😀
[i]Plenty of snow in Avoriaz.[/i]
[url= http://www.avorinet.com/webcams/portes-du-soleil ]Not convinced![/url]
I'm off to Wagrain. And while the snow there is no snow in town, the slopes are covered thanks to the bit of snow that fell at the end of November and some pretty liberal use of snow cannons at night time. As a result I'm not too worried, although we arrive next Saturday and the forecast is showing as 10C!
I'm off to Val Thorens on Boxing Day.....does anyone know if there are any mountaineering type shops there as opposed to just ski shops? Quite fancy a new waterproof jacket for trekking.....given the euro rate buying stuff over there works out pretty well currently!
As for the fatbiking on a mountain idea I'm another in the nothing other than snowboarding whilst on a snowboarding holiday camp. As someone else said, I can ride any day of the year in the UK....snowboarding on an actual mountain is an expensive luxury that I can't do very often!
looks like the northern alps, Austria esp are in for a large dump this week.
getting a bit bleak for the southern alps tho, some resorts postponing opening, feeling a bit worried for Sainte Foy early Jan...
does anyone know if there are any mountaineering type shops there as opposed to just ski shops
I was there last year, trying to recall what was in the little shopping centre. I think there were a couple of shops that might have what you are after. Hopefully someone will remember it better than me!
jaffejoffer - the large dump is only likely to be on the higher slopes (1,800m +). It's still pretty warm so is likely to fall as rain lower down 🙁 Where we are going is 800m in the town with the area topping out just below 2,000m.
That said, it has been warm for the last couple of weeks but with a massive temperature inversion. When I was looking at the weekend (Flachau) it was -5.8C down in the valley with the cannons on full pelt. By the mid station it was +4C, top station was about the same.
im sure the skiing will be reet enough, reports saying good conditions in Tignes and Val d'isere which are just down the road... just want a big fluffy white winter wonderland in resort for the kids sake really...
jaffejoffer - It's surprisingly decent here at the moment. I was up for a skin the other day:
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Off-piste options pretty-much zero unless you go up somewhere high above Val / Tignes for a tour, but looks like we should be able to open with some acceptable piste conditions.
Far too early to think about January conditions. It could be much worse than now, it'll probably be a lot better than now, but it certainly won't bear any resemblance to now.
feeling a bit worried for Sainte Foy early Jan...
Thats a long way away snow wise, we took a flier on Sainte Foy before Christmas (scheduied opening week) last year and it was closed (so so skiing in Tignes) but the day we left there was a huge dump to the extent the roads where shut ! The resort is great for kids imho, we had the wonderland conditions in Dec '12 pre Christmas.
Sadly a 17 year old Brit has been killed after hitting his head in Meribel. Reports say he was on a blue run.
Far too early to think about January conditions. It could be much worse than now, it'll probably be a lot better than now, but it certainly won't bear any resemblance to now.
you available for bike guiding if it gets that bad stevo??
Too early for 2016/17 season? No?
Just been getting prices for half-term 2017. Not as bad as I expected.
Anyone want to suggest whether there will be decent snow then?
Tuesday 22nd, December BBC4 10.00pm.- Ten Things You Didn't Know about Avalanches.
This looks interesting.
jaffejoffer - I'm gonna say no on the basis that all the trails will be hidden under the deep, deep powder that we'll have by then.
Or yes, if it comes to that!
Skiworld have some availability for xmas week on super discount.
£279 for a week in St Anton ( Nasserin ) is ridiculous. Chalet board as well , so not alot extra to add and probably a decent xmas dinner as well.
Even if the snow is rubbish this is a cheap holiday
conditions in Avoriaz dont look too bad .
at least it will be better than les Gets last year .
2 more sleeps , cant wait !
Just back from 10 amazing days in Whistler. Best snow for 3 or 4 seasons over there and Solarider Jnr's first encounter with the white stuff (although he didn't look so impressed!). 1 or 2 days of low visibility, but many more bluebird days and totally empty slopes.
Best skiing trip for years. So happy to be back in the grey, miserable UK (ahem!).
Only four days to go before I leave for Banff. I still have work before then, so 100% excited is having to wait, but I'm starting to look forward to it.
Oh Canada
Just arrived in Avoriaz.
There is snow but not a huge amount.
Nothing at all in Morzine and not much more in Les Gets.
Nice one solarider.
I've been finding winter utterly miserable here but I've just booked a week snowboarding in Italy in February and a week ski touring/off-piste course in Switzerland in March - it's cheered me right up!
Anyone seen any good deals on ski/snowboard pants recently? Never really like to spend loads on them for some reason.
grum, I always recommend them, but by January, Westbeach will have good reductions on their stuff. I bought a pair of Cockalorum slacks in their sale last year - so they've had one week's outing but they were great for the money (not sure I even paid £50 for them). Warm, functional, comfy and I look quite sexy in them. They replaced a previous pair of Westbeach that had done me for around 5 or 6 years. (Their jackets/pullovers are good value too - I mean, it's not Sweet Protection or the likes but for the ££, they're bloody good value.)
Ta. Yeah I like Westbeach stuff - will keep an eye out.
No snow forecast in the Alps 🙁 - glad I've not booked for just after NY like I quite often do.
Les Gets are making a decision today about re-opening for biking 😯
Just looking at cams on the Via Lattea and over the hills in Serre Che.
Looks terrible.
I'm heading out on Saturday. Thank god I convinced my mate to go high altitude (Belle Plagne @ 2,500m)
Come on El Niño FFS!
cchris2lou - we're on our way tomorrow morning. PM me and we may catch you for a hot chocolate in the village one day...
spending xmas at the flat. Not too disappointed about snow conditions, we will go up to Avoriaz for a few days over the course of the week to muck about. The kids are only just learning, and its only my first season on skis too so we will just be larking on the pisted learner slopes, and wont be missing out on too much. We wont bother trying to do 7x days ski school or suchlike.
EDIT: BTW, there's a hockey match on on Weds evening and on the 30th.
Just looking at cams on the Via Lattea and over the hills in Serre Che.Looks terrible.
Heading to Sauze in 2 weeks. Feel for the people out for Christmas week. I know a lot can happen in two weeks, but I've pretty much given up hope for a turn around before we arrive
Heading to Sauze in 2 weeks. Feel for the people out for Christmas week. I know a lot can happen in two weeks, but I've pretty much given up hope for a turn around before we arrive
I dunno, I went to Bavaria just after xmas last year and there was barely any snow at all when we set off driving from the UK. As we neared Munich on the motorway it started snowing heavily and didn't really stop for the whole week.
We're in Sauze at the start of Feb - even then there's no guarantees but I'm hopeful 🙂
Inspired:
Les Gets open for bikes on Saturday on Mont Chery! 🙂
I assume they just mean Airline and the black next to it. Although I doubt there's any reason (but mud) not to be able to ride around to Col d'Encrenaz...



