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titusrider: you must first perfect the shrug and the sullen disdain. Everything else builds from that base.


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 7:14 pm
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'tis a snowboard thing really - carving while fully laid-out on the snow. Involves a big twist at the waist so not really in keeping with modern technique, but does look cool:

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I like this pic too:

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Posted : 12/01/2012 7:18 pm
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[i]"Les Bronzés font du ski"[/i] is [i]the[/i] French cult ski film (with a dreadful English dub I'm sorry to say). Essential viewing for anyone going to Val. No prizes for naming the sectors.


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 7:26 pm
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'tis a snowboard thing really - carving while fully laid-out on the snow. Involves a big twist at the waist so not really in keeping with modern technique

Hardboots + slalom board.

They stand very differently and they do twist at the waist (and really want to be skiers but can only afford one plank).

Watch these guys:


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 7:34 pm
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GrahamS - perfectly possible with soft boots and a freestyle board too!


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 7:38 pm
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GrahamS - perfectly possible with soft boots and a freestyle board too!

Not unless you've got a pretty mental stance though.
Most freestylers ride duck stance these days - you'd have to twist your hips a hell of a lot from there 😀


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 7:41 pm
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+18°/-3° on mine IIRC. So yes, duck stance.


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 7:46 pm
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18, -9 here. Pretty duck, but can still eurocarve!

Had a go on hardboots once too, was a giggle, need to try it again some time.


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 7:48 pm
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+21°/-6° here with a 25"+ stance and I love carving!

When the slackcountry is not up to much but the 'corduroy' is cold and grippy it's good fun to get your 'carve on' and try and lay down some deep pencil lines in the snow with a decent gap between the edge change! If there's a few of you carving together it's a jolly wheeze fo' shizzle! 😆


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 7:56 pm
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Blimey! Fair enough. I retract that.

Not sure that I'd call -3 a [i]true[/i] duck stance right enough, but I'm well impressed you can twist enough to get your hip on the snow from a -9 stance 😯

(granted I am about as flexible as a scaffold pole)


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 8:42 pm
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"Les Bronzés font du ski" is the French cult ski film

^^THIS!^^


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 9:08 pm
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I can't believe Bazoom is still going in Tignes, might have to pay that a visit in two weeks time.

My Tignes top tip would be to avoid the off piste above the lake to the side of Trolles - death trap.


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 9:42 pm
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Les Bronzes font du ski was very funny.

I've actually walked around the house wearing a nighty in ski boots before now, when trying to get used a pair I bought many years ago.
Not sure what the downstairs neighbour thought, with all the clunking around on the kitchen tiles.


 
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I've actually walked around the house wearing a nighty in ski boots before now

Pics? 😉


 
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+15/-15 for me and as wide as they'll go. that's best for riding switch and jibbing around.

as for carving, try this fun trick what i learned from a bunch of aussies: basically you want to try and emulate the classic surfing grab rail turn. find a wide & smooth (and empty!) piste and cut a massive heel carve into it but get super low and grab your toe edge near to your trailing foot (indy). you can hold onto that rail for ages in that position and it feels pretty scary being so close to the ground as you pick up speed and carve it up. good fun.


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 10:15 pm
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Winceyette down to the floor is not the most flattering look, with bright pink ski socks and purple boots, just a picture of sartorial elegance, which shall be forever for my eyes only 🙂


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 10:18 pm
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Martin Bell once brought out a video, in which he said that 80% of recreational skiers can't or don't carve.


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 10:20 pm
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Surely with skis these days carving is pretty easy?


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 10:25 pm
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+15/-15 for me and as wide as they'll go.

Now THAT is what I'd call a [i]true[/i] duck stance.


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 10:27 pm
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Most people I ski with (myself included) still often slide their turns. Often with lots of snow spraying up at the back. It takes quite a bit of practice to carve properly.


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 10:28 pm
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Surely with skis these days carving is pretty easy?

Lots of people "skarve"or something. Sort of a half skid, half carve turn. Self included sometimes. In this sort of thing, not all of the turn is carved.


 
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you see a load of really bad snowboard technique as well - people kicking their tail around rather than letting the edge do the work. not saying that technique is completely useless, as there is a time and a place (steep & choppy or icy) but NOT down the middle of an open piste!


 
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Wife has booked us into Les Contamines late march/early april. Whole family decent skiers, but never been there before - anybody know it?

Driving down, staying in appartment, looking for lots of reds with some blues and blacks. nightlife requirements are pizza parlour and bar at bottom of slopes. oh and whilst we all have boots will need to hire planks and buy beer and groceries...


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 10:39 pm
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A friend of mine loves les Contamines, and she's utterly lovely, so it must be good!


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 10:43 pm
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I've just Googled for a vid of "virages coupés" to post but mainly found vids of Aston Martins. :-/ Anyone know what they are in English because that's how I like skiing?

[i]people kicking their tail around [/i] guilty 😳 I hate not being on an edge being a very average boader. 🙁 Happy on skis though 🙂 especially X-C skis 😀


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 10:44 pm
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It's just occured to me that "virages coupés" is "carving" but I'm thinking in a race context where there's a very fast transition from edge to edge with most of the pressure going into the first part of the turn to drive you down the hill rather than slow you down.


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 11:02 pm
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+15/-15 for me and as wide as they'll go.

Now THAT is what I'd call a true duck stance.


That's my stance too. Pretty sure there's no way I'm gonna manage to touch my hip down


 
Posted : 12/01/2012 11:28 pm
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Never mind technique as long as you can talk the talk....

😀


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 9:47 am
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[i]"Les Bronzés font du ski" is the French cult ski film [/i]

Wow! The first few seconds of that are like documentary footage! I was walking up to the lifts and some French bloke (could tell he was French as he was polluting the lovely mountain air with a fag) swung his skis a few mm from my head. "JEEZ!" says I and he gives me a look like I'd just stuffed my board up his wife's arse!
Another day I left my board in the free locker area, came back to find a load of skis in the rack and my board sitting in a puddle on the floor! Needless to say the skis didn't stay in the rack!
😆


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 9:55 am
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Anyone got any info on US run grading?

I'm looking at a map and can't see any red runs. Also, how do the gradings stack up compared to the French alps? I seem to recall that a Chaminix black was (in general) quite a bit more 'interesting' than one from Andorra.


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 11:08 am
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phinbob - US gradings go Green, Blue, Black, Double-Black. Some places even have Triple-Black because they're just so gnar.

These are roughly equivalent to the European Green, Blue, Red, Black.

Double and triple blacks will almost always be ungroomed, often couloirs/chutes, etc.


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 11:15 am
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80s brightly colored jacket
Skiing with your legs really close together
Very stood up style
Really relaxed and non-plusses by everything
Stopping for a ciggie after each run
And carving everywhere at 1billion miles an hour

Extra points if he's a monoskier. I love those guys. [i]J'adore le monoski.[/i]

"Les Bronzés font du ski"

Awesome!!!


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 11:19 am
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These Karl Pilkington muppets may amuse anyone who has had the delightful pleasure of using a backcountry "toilet".

[b]WARNING: some swearing.[/b] (Slow start but stick with it till 1:40)


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 1:44 pm
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Just come back from a week in Austria (well, last saturday) - ****ing awesome, last day was one of the powderiest I have ever encountered. It wasn't busy in St Johann either so loads of fresh bits to go at. Want to go back NOW. Shame we didn't get stuck there like some people apparently did. More snow in a week than in the whole of last season apparently!

By the way, has anyone posted the 'don't do it in the park' video yet? Can't be arsed wading through 13 pages. 🙂


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 1:49 pm
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Not seen that Grum, linkie please


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 2:00 pm
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nbt,


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 2:03 pm
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That's the one - pure gold! 😆

'Shaun White...... if he had a tight little vagina, I'd **** him too. I'm a whoremonger, trust me' 😯


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 2:25 pm
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this has everything: skier intolerance of snowboarder and snowboarder macho ghetto posturing


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 2:58 pm
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Yikes! Less cocaine for that guy.

They should have settled it on the slopes:


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 3:13 pm
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this has everything: skier intolerance of snowboarder and snowboarder macho ghetto posturing

@2.20 in - the Nihilists from the Big Lebowski Go Skiing.


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 3:14 pm
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Anyone got any info on US run grading?
Stevomcd is correct.
However the blacks are single diamond or double diamond and in some resorts I've skied in America they don't have green.

Also every resort is different, very much like hard resorts in France, where a red may feel like a black in some parts of Italy or Austria.

Nice to have you back Grum.


 
Posted : 13/01/2012 6:22 pm
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Also every resort is different, very much like hard resorts in France, where a red may feel like a black in some parts of Italy or Austria.

Indeed. I was on a little gentle blue in Italy a few years back when all of a sudden it got all steep, narrow and icy. More black than blue.

At the speed I hit it, I was the one that was black and blue. 😳


 
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Been LOL'ing at this recently.. lol.

Anyone else here in Canada??

I heard parts of Europe are getting dumped on.


 
Posted : 14/01/2012 7:25 am
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Just booked for Pila in Italy for second week in Feb. This will be my second snowboard holiday = utter beginner. Anyone been? Looking forward to a break from you lot for a week

Ive done 1.5 seasons in Pila. Really nice place, its small but once you get to know all the off piste spots most tourists don't know about its ace.
Cous 1 and 2 probably have the best skiing and boarding there.

Haven't been there in two years so im a bit rusty on the names of places but if you have any questions fire away!


 
Posted : 14/01/2012 7:31 am
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Snowfighters.....Skiing, Boarding and the Dropkick Murphys

Great combo
? 😀


 
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