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I’m glad there was no mention of midichlorians this time, it always struck me as a pseudo-science attempt to unnecessarily explain the mechanics of ‘the Force’.
‘May the Force be with you’ also sounds better than ‘May your blood be rich with midichlorians’.
Some interesting theories
Never underestimate the power of the scifigeekpedants
Is that possible?
Has this been posted yet?
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Just got back from seeing it, and it was excellent. Really enjoyed it, now want to go see it again 🙂
Goddam it, that was so good.
Everything I hoped it would be.
As to how the two untrained fighters were able to fight Kylo so well - you can't forget they did have the advantage of not having been shot by Chewie just moments before - they clearly showed he was wounded to emphasise it, maybe even twice.
If the movies follow any of the lore from the books that have been written over the past 30 years then, Rey and Ben are brother and sister albeit with their names changed. Jacen and Jaina Solo are Han and Leias kids and Jacen becomes a Sith Lord (Darth Caedus). They both trained under Luke at the Jedi Academy. However I remember reading that all should be forgotten about what has gone before, which is a shame. However it's certainly looking like it's heading that way.
It's a remake of the Empire Strikes back with a villain that's trying really, really hard to be like Snape from Harry Potter but failing. I stayed to end just in case there was something new, I left feeling I'd wasted time and money.
With a couple of days to reflect on it, I'm going to score it 2/10. I got dragged along to see The Lady in the Van a couple of weeks ago, that's pretty bad but not as bad as Star Wars.
There's a fairly plausible theory that Rey was at Luke's academy as a small child and therefore would have some force/jedi training - hence the ease she picked up flying/lightsable fighting/mind tricks.
The theory is that KR was at the academy, went bad and killed some other students. Academy was shut down and Luke went into hiding.
Rey is a Skywalker/Solo and was in training but quite young. She was then sent away/hidden on Jacku with Max Von Sydow character to watch over her.
so
anyone going to see it again
i am thinking before the kids break up for christmas! 🙂
I'm going again
I could probably fit in a 3rd before the end of the year 😉
The biggest mystery is why Kylo Ren has features that resemble neither of his parents. That nose, those ears!
That was awesome. I found myself with tears in my eyes all through the film. Can't wait to go again.
Yes, it echoes all the old films, but that's what I loved about it.
All we need to do now is round up all the DVDs of the prequels and have a mass burning.
A brilliantly made film which will pull in us '40 something year old's' whilst also appealing to the 'yoof' of today
Yes - some glaring plot holes - but i really don't care as the original three were pretty terrible in many ways - but they were the best films of my childhood
Christ - i even watched Empire Strikes Back backwards on a betamax... 🙂
Will be going to see it again ASAP 🙂
Daniel Craig?
Daniel Craig?
Was standing guard over Rey whilst she was shackled in chair,so I've been told.HtH.
Having seen kylo Ren's Todger on "girls" I remain unconvinced he has what it takes to rule the galaxy
4o years old here and loved every minute of it , my wife watched ESB when it first came out and was hooked again this evening , every sound from the Falcon and Tie fighters sent a shiver down my spine
The plot had a few holes in it ,the story as a little bit a new hope but it didn't matter , 2 hours of being that child again wanting to be a Jedi.
Loved it and will be back before the years end to watch it again
Maybe that is why he is so angry, and keeps beating the shit out of inanimate objects with his lightsabre.Having seen kylo Ren's Todger on "girls" I remain unconvinced he has what it takes to rule the galaxy
I thought it was OK but not amazing - I can see it would be really enjoyable for a younger generation. For me it was all just a bit obvious and contrived (as are the first couple of films seen through adult eyes). All the talk of "nearly in tears" and stuff makes me want to hurl, yes it was a big deal in many of our childhoods but get a grip.
get a grip.
The username "fuzzywuzzy" makes me want to hurl.
Get a grip.
so whens it going to be out on BluRay 🙂 i wonder if there any "special editions" - there is already chatter of cut scenes and scenes in the trailer and in "making of" that are not in the movie (although they could be for the next one)
films like this make me want to get a bigger telle!
It's generally better to wait for the complete set on blu ray I reckon. I bought the first 6 as a set well after the individual discs came out and it had tons on it the single discs didn't
Saw the film on Friday. Really enjoyed it. Very much the feel of the originals and glad lucks was kept away from cgi overkill.
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Instantly recognizable from a few seconds into the scene. Great place but a lot calmer than when I went.
great film.
trying to be all things to all men, but still a great film.
things no-one has mentioned yet:
- Kylo Ren will now have a tasty scar on his face from the fight with Rey
- Han Solo's freighter, the Rathtars and the two gangs he owed money to were straight out of Red Dwarf....
Saw it last night and thought,all and all,it was pretty good.
Only bad points.
I found the Scots smuggler/pirate's accent cringe worthy, along with the one that wishes Poe good luck on his final attack run. It was all a bit too Highlander.
They could have just CGI’d Carrie Fisher’s part, a corpse would have acted better.
Carrie Fishers acting was awful and she looked terrible, It makes me laugh when actors / actresses state they are "getting into shape for the role" What role was that Ms Fisher & Mr Hamill? a Greggs?
I know she was drugged up for most of the OT, but even that was better than her acting in TFA.
Fair play to Harrison Ford though, he may not look like much but he's got it where it counts. His lines were ace, and his play with Rey / Chewie was excellent.
If the movies follow any of the lore from the books that have been written over the past 30 years....
I thought they told in no uncertain terms that so-called expanded universe (e.g. all the books, fan fiction etc.) are not used in the newest "new" series. Wouldn't be too surprised if they lifted some parts of fan fiction anyway...
Good film, sometimes trying bit too much and some scenes could have been deleted or shortened. I guess they just wanted to create opening for multiple plots already now. Some things that bothered me:
- masked baddie was quite disappointing (superbad or teen angst) and he removed his mask too often.
- ex-storm trooper fella was asthmatic?
- scenes designed purely to get reactions from old fans
he may not look like much
if I look like that in my 70s I'll be happy, cheers.
saw it friday. made even better afterwards, when i took the wife for a pint, bumped into a friend I havent seen all year. He worked on it (carpenter - went to the Wednesday pre-showing)
so we had a good chat about the details, the crossover from real to cgi, scale etc. He has the utmost respect for the sprayers.
There's a fairly plausible theory that Rey was at Luke's academy as a small child and therefore would have some force/jedi training - hence the ease she picked up flying/lightsable fighting/mind tricks.The theory is that KR was at the academy, went bad and killed some other students. Academy was shut down and Luke went into hiding.
Rey is a Skywalker/Solo and was in training but quite young. She was then sent away/hidden on Jacku with Max Von Sydow character to watch over her.
I've kept away from spoiler sites before watching and after apart from this thread, and this was how I read it.
I have a pretty reasonable grip on reality, but I was surprised at my own emotional response at THAT first chord, once 'A long time ago..' had jump cut to THAT scrolling text. I did see the original at 6 in the cinema, when you had to queue and hope to get in, and I did see the 3 which shall not be named too.
I stayed to end just in case there was something new, I left feeling I'd wasted time and money.With a couple of days to reflect on it, I'm going to score it 2/10.
im glad im not the only one.
the way i look at it it was 50% episode 4 50% episode 6 so, at best it can only be 50% good. but unfortunately it has none of teh good bits of episode 4 so therefore gets scored low (30%). It could have made it up with a few funky new ships, a badass baddie or a new world or 2 but out of the whole imaginary multiverse they booked a doctor who set for a space freighter, went back to a desert and had yet another crappy death star - very ****ing lame.
i'll probably go see it again though as it is star wars and i'm a sucker for a tie fighter/xwing battle.
you score a film 3/10 and will still go back for a second watch?
If the movies follow any of the lore from the books that have been written over the past 30 years....I thought they told in no uncertain terms that so-called expanded universe (e.g. all the books, fan fiction etc.) are not used in the newest "new" series. Wouldn't be too surprised if they lifted some parts of fan fiction anyway...
I did mention this in my post, I meant they may have taken certain story lines, plots, characters from the expanded galaxy, I wasn't particularly clear!
Personally, I really enjoyed it, I was grinning from ear to ear all the way home. Yes there was some rehashing of original ideas (Star Killer for example) and a lot of it was familiar territory, but for me that's why I enjoyed it so much, I felt like a kid again, I didn't get that with episodes 1-3.
On new ships, my understanding was the idea that the X Wing has developed like our joint strike fighter to be multi role capable. Plus they look totally badass in black.
Y Wings were the equivalent of Star Treks red shirted security, B Wings and A wings .. just a bit lame really. The horse is dead and needs no more flogging after 1-3 tried it, and failed in yet another way.
X-wing cavalry coming over the lake did it for me.
I didn't spot it in the trailers, but that whole place looked very familiar
Plenty of us have ridden our bikes over that ridge (apologies if I just rubbed some of the mystique off)
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And I definitely agree with some of the posters on here about the urgency of the plot and the overbearing similarities to EpIV. I still really enjoyed it and the future's good for the other films.
Did anyone else correct her when she said 14?
Out loud, to the rest of the cinema?
"It was 12!" 😉
you score a film 3/10 and will still go back for a second watch?
yup. no one else will take my older daughter and she might actually like it as she`s not fussed by the first 6 episodes.
i just love teh imagary of it too. some bits were excellent. and its star wars - you have to try. you never know i might learn to like it?
Still a lot of brits in space!
But the scots gang guy?! Nah. As said very red dwarf! (I'm allowed to moan about it being scottish!).
We to a party with Daisy Ridleys god father at the weekend, hadn't seen the film so couldn't get too many details without ruining the film.