[Closed] The South is so much better than the North of England...

The North is absolutely rubbish. I open my curtains every morning and breath a heavy sigh of despair as I look out on the grim view of all those boring tedious hills and their rubbish trails.

I only live here so you don't have too.

You stay down there.

No-one seriously says the north is rubbish. However some northerners seem to seriously think the whole south is rubbish. I used to think that until I worked there. There are rubbish bits, of course, both shitty places and a unique kind of rich rubbishness, however there are lots of fantastic bits. And there is loads of good rising too in places. As above, the Midlands is probably the worst region for riding, overall. Bit even there there are good pockets .

Unlike say, the US, where there can be no riding at all for hundreds of miles.

Well thecaptain clearly you want to keep that pub to yourself.. 🙄

...there are nice people in the South, great scenery and just generally lovely, like many other parts of the country.

There, that's better, fixed it for you.
I love living where I do, Wiltshire is a pretty diverse county, like chalk and cheese, which is exactly where the expression comes from; the chalk of the central and southern downland, and the cheese from the north and northwest where there's more arable and cattle farming. And sheep, once there were nineteen mills along the Bybrook valley where Castle Combe sits, weaving wool.
But equally there are many other stunning parts of the country, from the Broads, with their huge skies, the Dales, the Lakes, the further south-west into Dorset and Devon, with both Dartmoor and Exmoor, Cornwall, Wales with stunning coast , the Beacons and the Black Mountains and Snowdonia, the Peak District, Scotland with its vast empty and bleak but beautiful areas up in the North-west, it's mountains, lochs...
We are blessed with a remarkable country, with breathtaking scenery everywhere, and most of it easily accessed in a few hours by car, unlike America, where if you're some poor bastard living in, say, Des Moines, you could probably drive for a week and see nothing but wheatfields! I've flown over the big flat bit between Minneapolis/St Paul and Denver, and looked at roads below that stretched to the horizon in both directions; living there would drive me insane!
No one part of our island is better than any other, just different, and for that we should all be bloody grateful!
Oh, and beer! We have over 1400 breweries and many great pubs, just not enough, really, and I love pretty much all the beer I've drunk from most parts of the country. Some I'm not so keen on, but that's a taste thing, nothing else.
Celebrate the fact, and drink lots!

The Chilterns are shocking, there aren't endless trails fantastic climbs & descents, wonderful green forests of outstanding natural beauty blessed with gorgeous quick drying single track or-quiet country lanes, just labour hating Tory Land Rover driving nibys (no irony in the last bit) 🙂

It was a comment about pubs not breweries

The two I linked to were both brewery tap pubs.

Cougar - admire the sentiment but Thwaites isn't the best example, mate.

True, I really just threw it in there as one someone would have heard of.

Nope Cougar, I'm talking about Harrogateshire and the Dales

Fair enough.

Mol grips you have lived in Hadfield, that's proof enough that the north is better than the south. Mind Padfield is better.

Ha! Harrogate the northern town for those that really think they are cosmopolitan Londoners. WA.kers all. It's the only town that would vote against a free Yorkshire.

We live in Co Durham but have family in Scotland Surrey Stockport etc. My take is there are lovely people all over the place but don't pretend you have proper countryside down south. It's all very Midsommer but all you really have is a strip of green belt between towns. 😆

Guessing that the OP is a southerner living in southernland, then surely the worst place and the place closest to the place most devoid of culture or anything remotely resembling intelligence is reserved for the poor sods that live next door to the OP, no?
Ergo, the worst place is the south.

I moved up North recently. I tell my Southern mates it's shite just so they don't follow suit and ruin it.

As somebody said earlier though, the standard of driving is woeful

My only other regret is that my boy will probably end up supporting Manc City/Utd or one of them Scouser teams

If I could I'd be out of the south and in the northeast like a flash!!

I like the North. I like the South. Now the Midlands on the other hand.... 😀

Hmm i'm in Harrogate, the riding is brilliant, the air is usually less poluted and i've got the Peaks, Dales, and Lakes within easy visit distance, yes terrible, don't know how I cope some days 😉

Wookster - Member

If I could I'd be out of the south and in the northeast like a flash!!

Move, you know it makes sense!!

I'm from the North,but I've lived in the South for a long time now.
Both are beautiful,both have occupants I'd class as undesirable . Food options makes the south officially better though.
What really upsets me though ,is that Li'l J will probably be a Gooner! (He already talks like a cockerny(sic) 🙂 )
5/10 for the trollage.

Nope Cougar, I'm talking about Harrogateshire and the Dales, includes Ilkley, Skipton, Grassington, Hawes (Masham excluded) Ripon, Kirkby Malzard, even going into the Vale of York is a desert of real ale pubs.

http://www.villagebrewer.co.uk/our-pubs/blind-jacks/

It's in Knaresborough BTW.

HTH.

Yeah food in the north is grim.

Molgrips wins at trolling though because there's no way he's being serious.

It's great that we love where we live....I'm pretty content too down here in Surrey. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't change a few things if I could. Nothing's perfect....although the weather was today!

The North is not a suitable environment for Southerners, the climate, food and sarcasm are simply not tolerable.

As long as the southerners think it's shit up north, that's fine by me

I think it's because we still use plates in the North, it confuses Southerners not having their 'lunch' served on wheel trim.

I agree with one of my best mates who's Lakes born and bred, who comes down to London fairly frequently: London ladies are very often absolutely smashing to look at but you'd struggle to get a very meaningful conversation from them that lasts more than a few minutes 🙂
There really are some who carry dogs in their handbags!

Molgrips wins at trolling though because there's no way he's being serious.

What? About the riding?

Am I the ONLY person on STW who's ridden in both the North and the South?

No-one seriously says the north is rubbish. However some northerners seem to seriously think the whole south is rubbish.

This bit.

We had a couple of nights in Ilkley earlier this year; found two great real ale pubs.

Wherever you are in the Uk, sitting on top of a bike an looking out at what you've achieved on a Sunny day is awesome.

I agree with the OP. I live in SW Sheffield, there are no good pubs or beer, coffee is uniformly dreadful and as for the riding, either on or off road, forget it - just dreadful! Houses very expensive too

London. One of the great capitals of the world. End of thread.

Cue the London envy ----> "it's a shithole" etc.

When ma brutha done gone married his cousin hiss daddy done got him a new shootin' car. My daddy says I gotta marry me real purty laydee if ah wanna shooting Car but ah already dunn gonnand married ma hog. He's my best friend.

London. One of the great capitals of the world. End of thread.

Cue the London envy ----> "it's a shithole" etc.

My son is from Durham. like me. He's lived in London for the past 8-10 years or so, Camden, Sydenham & now somewhere else that he's just moved to. Not his own place of course cos he's 'only' on 50K a year so can't afford anything less then a shitehole.
He's looking for jobs further North ATM, had enough of the shithole that it is.

I am lucky enough, and happy, to live in The North, but have reasons to visit The South (whatever those two terms may mean).

Happy with the situation as it stands.

London. One of the great capitals of the world. End of thread.
Cue the London envy ----> "it's a shithole" etc.

I think London is a great city. I love visiting, however am in no way envious of people living there. It is possible to like a plave without wishing to live there.

London's great. It keeps the Cockneys away from the North.

They all live in Essex or Spain now.

bearnecessities - Member
Oh christ, it's another unfitgeezer erectile dysfunction thread.

Personally I'm waiting for the inevitable "why isn't everyone white" thread for maximum points.

You are a **** !

London's great. It keeps the Cock[s]ney[/s]s away from the North.

FTFY

London's brilliant! It provides a valuable service to the rest of the country as a [url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/london-****-drain-great-for-provinces-2014012882966 ]**** magnet[/url] 😆

Given that 'the north' starts just past [s]Exeter[/s]Bristol!, I'm inclined to agree.

fixed. 🙂

My first visit to London aged 16, coming from social seclusion in darkest Cumbria I stepped out of the railway to be confronted on the street by a random drunk tramp shouting stuff at people walking past, I was like wtf!
This is my abiding impression of London, it hasn't improved much over the many times I've visited since.

And to buy a one bedroom hovel in some shithole, where you could hear that tramp shouting all night, it will you cost you the same as the GDP of Spain

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Drac +1 😆

This is my abiding impression of London, it hasn't improved much over the many times I've visited since.

And that's the problem. Visiting somewhere is not the same as living there.

You didn't see all the fantastic bits. Doesn't mean they aren't there.

I could say the same about the North, if my only experiences were the M60 and Preston.

London's brilliant! It provides a valuable service to the rest of the country as a **** magnet

Some of the posts on this thread would suggest otherwise...

I'm a Londoner, I love it. I'm fortunate to have a house with a garden and a garage, and I appreciate being able to do things with my children easily - parks, museums, zoos, general amenities. Hell I went ice climbing on Sunday, jumped on the tube to get there

I love the countryside, but the reality is that I do a job that is pretty specialist, and where the market for that skill is good in London, it is possible outside but definitely harder.

Every area has their positives and negatives. I wish the riding was better, I was the mountains were closer, I wish I had land, I wish it was more affordable, I wish I wish I wish

I have space for 5 bikes, a motorbike and 2 cars. My kids are in a good school. My family is close by. I can cycle to work, but the tube station is a 5 min walk away. I can get buses easily if I want to. Life is pretty good really

Perhaps THM there is just a sense of humour difference between the North and the South...we have one and they don't 😉

These threads always end up like this

I have lived all over including the north and the south the only real difference I would say is that up North you can talk to a stranger without them shitting themselves and thinking you are mental. Bit of a generalisation but apart from that people are just people