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The concept of the Christian God is that He is self creating and Eternal (thereby independent of the material Universe).
The 'self creating and eternal' is a quick convenient way of getting round the question I suppose, and the 'material Universe' that he is independent of, where did that come from?
Oh great CFH posts about the inanity of posting on an internet thread
awwww ro5ey beat me to it.
🙂 for flashy coz I love him really.
Ask George Michael, he had the answer.
I wonder if there's a patron saint of pointless arguements...
cobblers. The "modern society wouldn't exist without religion" line is bobbinsI would argue conversely that without Christianity, and the civic culture it supported in this country for many hundreds of years, there would not have been a UK in the first place, let alone economic prosperity, religious and political liberty, and the opportunity (not always realised) to discuss whether God exists in the first place.
"I wonder if there's a patron saint of pointless arguements..."
We could get TeeJ a little picture of said pointless patron saint or maybe a little medallion on a chain
Lots of people think we are completely stupid to ride our silly little bicycles around in little muddy circles, however some of them are interested in the whys and hows tho and will ask/discuss it with us. Just coz you don't want to do something doesn't mean aspects of it won't interest you.Why then would you want to discuss something (which you don't think is true) with people who you know are wrong?
Why then would you want to discuss something (which you don't think is true) with people who you know are wrong?
Did I not just explain that in the sentence you quoted?
What would people do if an event happened which by nature can never happen?
Woah, hang on. How long has god been bound by nature? I thought he was omnipotent? You're telling me that a being powerful enough to [i]create the universe[/i] would be unable to send his Earthly son back for a second try? Or another messenger perhaps; the Bible talks about his only son but I don't recall it precluding any daughters.
It is Agitation, pure and simple.
It is not. I don't know how I'm expected to prove that(*) but I stated right at the outset, it was a genuine question.
(* - you can't disprove it though**)
(** - ok, [i]that [/i]was agitation 😀 )
We could get TeeJ a little picture of said pointless patron saint or maybe a little medallion on a chain
... or you could just
No. I don't want to get banned again, or be accused of being nasty.
"or you could just..."
Who to him (teej) or me ?
If its me.... go for it