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@root-n-5th - same issue for me. I love my Brooks Adrenaline GTS, very roomy in the toe box. I do aim for a thumbs length between my big toe and the end. They use guide rails rather than a block I understand.

Just got some Asics GT-2000 8, also very nice. Feel more responsive but narrower.


 
Posted : 30/05/2020 7:23 pm
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Brooks Ghost have a big toe box, to big for me, they are very roomy.

Just clocked up my 300th mile for May and now well over 1000 for the year. Absolutely loving the work at the moment, even if my legs do constantly ache!


 
Posted : 30/05/2020 7:30 pm
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Finally made it back to the mountains on Saturday after nearly 3 months of lockdown... and it hurt 🙂

Only 12km but I'm sitting here in front of the computer with very stiff legs, it's shocking how much strength you lose without noticing it. Still, all good fun and it was a lovely day for it. Next weekend we'll try and manage a bit more distance!


 
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Been ticking along here too but getting a bit of pain in the top of my knee, kinda under the knee cap so I've eased off a bit. hoping it's just a bit of tendonitis but don't want to make it worse. Managed to get out into the hills around Manchester a few times now and makes a great change from running along the Mersey early in the morning - although even that is fairly pleasant in this weather! Just over 500kms for the year so far here - way up on last year and well on track for 1000kms by Dec (which was my target).

Also looking around for some new road shoes but not much in stock. Nike had 30% off but nothing I want in my size.


 
Posted : 01/06/2020 11:14 am
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I know this is a bit late, but last week I passed my run every day for a year. It all started in late September 2018 and I managed to get through April 2019 and completed London for the second time bagging a PB along the way, then the following weekend got brought back down to earth by an Akita trying to take a lump out of my right leg. No lumps removed although it did leave me with a DVT and 3 months on blood thinners (Apixaban). I was slightly annoyed that my streak was over after managing 7 months, so I was eager to get back to it when my leg allowed me to. On the 25th May 2019 I did an impromptu couple of miles which ended up being three altogether so I figured I was fit to start again. Slowly at first, but I soon got back into the swing and here we are over a year later having done something every day. I've no idea on mileage as I don't wear a watch or really keep track of things. I roughly know how far I've gone in a week but don't record it anywhere. I reckpn I've probably averaged 50-60 mpw in that time, some more some less, so maybe 2500-3000 miles in the year.
I'm calling it a win, but I'm not stopping, so just going to keep rolling with the streak until something else puts paid to it!


 
Posted : 01/06/2020 11:56 am
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Disappointed that there is a drop off in activity on this thread. I can only assume you are all out running in the sunshine

I'm just coming back from 3 weeks off due to a mild separated shoulder injury, did 5k last weekend and again yesterday, now planning on easing back into it with 15k total this week.

Riding is fine now too, rode the first proper trails on Friday for weeks.

I'm at 240km for the test which considering I didn't finish C25K until the middle of March I'm happy!

Now we're allowed out to drive and ride proper trails I still want to try and increase my running mileage along with getting in a couple of rides per week.


 
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Superb alanf, impressive stuff, good to see ye back Ta11Pau1.


 
Posted : 01/06/2020 12:33 pm
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Disappointed that there is a drop off in activity on this thread. I can only assume you are all out running in the sunshine

In my case I think it's more that all the runs I've been doing are local 10k loops, which aren't particularly exciting - it's only this week that we've been allowed to leave our local area to run somewhere more fun.

Anyway, here's a photo from Saturday's run, looking out over the El Escorial monastery.

Abantos


 
Posted : 01/06/2020 12:51 pm
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Aye, no races or particulary interesting runs, so not much to talk about.


 
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You guys are spoiled 🙂 I grew up in Fazakerley which is a not too salubrious area of Liverpool. My runs (anything up to 70 mpw) were all done on pretty boring pavement loops. 5 mile loop, 7 mile loop 10 mile loop etc. Had plenty of people to train with though. Some very fast guys indeed which helped. Live on the Wirral now so lots of paths parks and bridleways which is much nicer as I get much slower....

Where is it you live Mogrim?


 
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Disappointed that there is a drop off in activity on this thread. I can only assume you are all out running in the sunshine

Wish that were the case.

Been injured for months and can't get treatment because of covid.


 
Posted : 01/06/2020 1:44 pm
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Whats the issue @wardee?


 
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Big toe joint.

Had an xray in february which showed soft tissue damage, but no definite fracture.

GP referred to orthopaedics, orthopaedics too busy, with massive waiting list, so referred to advanced podiatrist for 'early assessment.' That would have been 6 weeks later but cancelled due to covid.


 
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I have arthritis in my toe joint. It doesnt flex and the joint is very stiff. I run in Hoka shoes which help a little. I would rather run in more flexible shoes like Nikes but Hokas, with their stiffer forefoot certainly make a difference.


 
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Changing shoes doesn't really help in my case. The Xray was because the doctor wanted to see if I had arthritis and nothing showed up.

My toe is fully mobile, just uncomfortable when weight is applied with the toe bent, and the joint swells up if I run or cycle.


 
Posted : 01/06/2020 6:19 pm
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Where is it you live Mogrim?

Small town NW of Madrid. I'm not complaining about my local trails, BTW, they're all off road and great for running, just not newsworthy 🙂


 
Posted : 01/06/2020 6:27 pm
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@j4mesj4mes - I think I've narrowed it down to some Brooks Adrenaline GTS 20. Thanks for the input. Can I ask how much you size up in them? I'm 11 so tempted to go for a 12.

Cheers.


 
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@root-n-5th, I find Brooks reasonably true to size, I wear 11.5 or 12 in most shoes and 12 in Brooks. Same size as Nike shoes if that helps?


 
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I've not tried the Brooks models mentioned, but the brooks cascadia I purchased about a year ago were a bit too big in a UK size 10, whereas other brook shoes in the past have been true to size.

According to the label in the shoe it is a size 10 Uk, 45 in European, and size 11 US. The UK size has not been converted correctly and this appears to affect other models of Brooks shoes too.

I would suggest using the US or European sizes for Brooks shoes.


 
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@root-n-5th I find I'm 10.5 in Brooks, Ascis and Inov8 if that helps


 
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We've had a fair few virtual races going on, both within the club, and inter-club. 4 mile race at the start of May, and a 5 miler the weekend just gone. I was happy with my 4 mile time, but I did realise that my 10k run to Battersea Park, my race venue of choice, might not be the ideal warm-up. I cycled down on Sunday morning, warmed up for 1 lap, then smashed myself for 5 miles before another lap to cool down. 1 lap is ~2.8km. I think I was slightly under warmed up, but it worked, as rather inexplicably my pace was faster over 5 miles than it was over 4 😀 I think I must be suited mentally to solo time trials, as I seem to be doing better in these events than I would expect compared to guys who are normally faster than me. Either that or I'm just taking them more seriously!

I also broke out the new shoes for the 5 miler, maybe they made a difference....


 
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#magicshoes


 
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It occurred to me that I currently have quite a few pairs of shoes....

The porch:

The shed:

Decided these could all be retired and see it anyone would be willing to part with some cash for them on eBay so into the washing machine:

Came out looking OK

Then the shoe fairy delivered this evening 😀


 
Posted : 02/06/2020 9:46 pm
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Wowzers, you’re worse than me @turboferret.
How are the Novablasts by the way?


 
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Wow - I thought that my wife and I had a lot of shoes but that puts us in the shade. You have more than both of us put together!

Will you be partaking in the new Alphafly?


 
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I'm still ticking along with the rugby club challenges. Really enjoying running whilst the weather is good.

Last week we tested 10k for the first time - PB by over 6 minutes (44.23), so things are moving in the right direction.

I was hoping distances wouldnt continue to increase, but there's talk of them now making the challenge each week until we hit a marathon, which sounds very unappealing to run alone. We shall see...


 
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Bloody hell TF, that's an impressive number of shoes! And BTW your new 5 miler shoes are quite possibly some of the ugliest running shoes I've ever had the misfortune to set eyes upon 😀


 
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Lovely run this afternoon with a club mate. I’d forgotten how awesome it is running in rain and cooler air than the heat we’ve had the last few weeks. Felt like I could really stretch the legs and knock in a few quicker miles. A cracking run.


 
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Been looking at how I run regarding heart rate zones. I realise my watch hrm isn’t the most accurate but it gives a good general view. It seems most of my runs are tempo or threshhold which is typical of me - push as hard as I can as I enjoy the feeling of running “fast”. I find jogging a bit boring but I guess it has its own pleasures.

After studying a number of people I know on Strava they seem to be doing a lot more miles at lower intensity so I’ve bought that 80/20 book mentioned earlier and will see if I can learn something from it.

Also got some new shoes coming today as, after a discussion with a great shop, I realise my shoes are long and pointy and I need long and wide. Sick of bruised, sore toes and aching arches So I ordered some clown shoes and will see how I get on. It’s a risk not tying them on but not much choice at present.


 
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not much choice at present

Aye, it's not just bikes that are flying off the shelves!.

I find jogging a bit boring but I guess it has its own pleasures.

I love a slow, long run, still get the feeling of being done at the end, but get to appreciate your surroundings a bit more, go the hillier route, something different, and exploring new paths. Also good for a chatty social run, passes the miles really well when your out with a mate.


 
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I get the "long slow runs are boring" thought, happens to me sometimes.
As said above, route choice is key to making them better, I like having places or things that I want to see on the route. It could be a particular hill or view, but can also be more urban stuff (I wonder what the City centre is like now? I've not been to XYZ Town centre in years, I'll go there) can work too. I did a lovely run recently around the little (in truth, pretty ropy) towns around where I grew up. They were all still dives but it gave some focus and purpose to the run.
I don't generally run with music or anything else, but for a long, slower run having a few podcasts lined up works well. Running Commentary is awesome for this.


 
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Agree on all of that lunge, I like to keep my eyes out for wee urban paths and such like in town, and go exploring them on the longer slower runs.


 
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Easy run tonight in new shoes. 10.5km and ran on heart rate - kept it below 149 if I could. Very different experience and really very pleasant. Felt very different to my usual tempo runs which tend to hurt and took in the beautiful scenery of south west London. Could get used to it and push the distance when I get used to shoes. Slightly sore calves, one toe still hurts but wider toe box will hopefully be good in long run.

Looking at pace afterwards it dropped off a bit towards the end but that’s probably
Expected.


 
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I find it much easier to go slower when trail running, normal road running, anything below 6:00 /km feels almost like walking.

But on this evenings 6k trail run, 6:40 /km pace was good. I try and keep my HR below 150 on these, 156 max and 143 average tonight.


 
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It did feel slow but not too bad. Was doing between 4:52 and 5:48 for the kms. Slowed right down on the hills instead of powering up like normal. Only had heart rate on watch so didn’t look at pace or time. The km times flashed up to give an idea of distance.

Question about zones though. The Garmin seems to say my easy is zone 2, but I’ve always thought it was zone 3. Strava says it’s zone 3. Anyone else come across this?

Also, is it ok to edit the zones a bit? At heart rate 151 it still felt easy but pushed me into next zone. I seems to be able to maintain 151 easier than 149.


 
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Also, is it ok to edit the zones a bit? At heart rate 151 it still felt easy but pushed me into next zone. I seems to be able to maintain 151 easier than 149.

Zones are at best a guideline, and HR is notoriously bad as an indicator of effort - you often get huge spikes at the beginning of a run, then settle into it, then it slowly drifts upwards as you keep going. So if you think 151 is more accurate than 149, go for it. Anyone who tries to tell you it's a precise measurement is talking out of their arse 🙂


 
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I seems to be able to maintain 151 easier than 149

Aye, I don't see optic hr being accurate enough to use 2 beats per minute as an accurate reference point.

Wearing my VA4, if I wear it quite high above my wrist joint, the readings are fairly steady, and I can keep my threshold runs to below 140bpm, but if I then hook up my chest strap, it reads pretty much the same trend, but 8-10bpm slower, consistently.


 
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HR is at best a guide and useful at very low levels to hold yourself back when your training calls for it. I have never used it much and have always run by "feel" and "perceived effort" More importantly the fast guys I have been lucky enough to train with have very rarely/never used it either.
I would go as far as to to say it has very little value for "amateur" athletes like us and can be too much of a distraction. I am not a luddite and HR is clearly a hugely important indicator I just think it is difficult to monitor closely during exercise and for us that have to go to work and generally have all the stresses that full time athletes dont have you will find it varies quite a lot. Once you have trained for a while you will get a feel for how much effort you are expending.

it reads pretty much the same trend, but 8-10bpm slower, consistently.

That is a significant margin. I think only the chest ones are really accurate. If you are using HR data from your watch then that margin can make quite a difference.


 
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Thanks for the input, peoples.

I realise it’s not that accurate but I’m not experienced enough to judge a pace properly yet, but I’m getting better. To be fair to it, when I started getting a bit breathy the monitor indicated 155 and rising, backing off to easy brought it down within 30 seconds so it certainly is reading something. I’m sure in a couple of months I will do it instinctively but until then it’s a good guide.

As a reference I usually run at 160+.


 
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I’m not experienced enough to judge a pace properly yet

That's easy. When you get to half way ask yourself "can I hold this pace for the rest of the distance?" If the answer is "yes", you're not going hard enough. If the answer is "no" you've gone to hard. The answer you want is "maybe".


 
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I realise it’s not that accurate but I’m not experienced enough to judge a pace properly yet, but I’m getting better. To be fair to it, when I started getting a bit breathy the monitor indicated 155 and rising, backing off to easy brought it down within 30 seconds so it certainly is reading something. I’m sure in a couple of months I will do it instinctively but until then it’s a good guide.

It obviously does measure effort, it's just not that useful when you're planning a workout around it for the reasons mentioned above. (And it's completely useless for short intervals - your heartrate doesn't react anything like fast enough). But as a starting point go for it, it's better than nothing when you're just starting out.


 
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Root
Different companies/suppliers/apps all use different values on the zones, sometimes different names. They don't overlap universally, and they don't always mean the same thing with the same name. So if you're aiming for a certain zone on Garmin, don't worry if stava calls it something else. Just be consistent with yourself.
Sounds like you're building experience and feel for it nicely, definitely have a go editing them around how you feel.
And hills always take extra effort.


 
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Different companies/suppliers/apps all use different values on the zones, sometimes different names. They don’t overlap universally, and they don’t always mean the same thing with the same name. So if you’re aiming for a certain zone on Garmin, don’t worry if stava calls it something else. Just be consistent with yourself.

But thats a danger isnt it. If Strava says run in Z1 (say 110 to 125 for example) and Garmin estimates my Z1 to be 120 to 135 thats a big problem.


 
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But thats a danger isnt it. If Strava says run in Z1 (say 110 to 125 for example) and Garmin estimates my Z1 to be 120 to 135 thats a big problem.

Not really a danger, unless you naively assume Z1 means the same thing everywhere. As long as you stick to either Garmin or Strava you'll be fine. (FWIW I use perceived effort, Z1 is a gentle recovery jog where I can talk without problem, Z2 starting to warm up, Z3 short phrases only (marathon pace), Z4 5-10K pace, Z5 forget about talking as breathing is a problem...)


 
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Lockdown has been relatively kind to my running - getting out 5-6 days a week, rather than 3-4. Still not much mileage but I'm sure consistency will be helping. Finding new challenges in working my runs around stiles and gates - proudest route was a run with 11 stiles or gates and none touched directly. Almost all my runs are on the trail but felt obliged to do a road run last night (to avoid 'steady trail plod' and inject some pace). It was horrible - nothing but the effort to concentrate on! Did get a PB on the mile gravel climb I couldn't resist throwing in 🙂


 
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Not really a danger, unless you naively assume Z1 means the same thing everywhere. As long as you stick to either Garmin or Strava you’ll be fine

Not really. Z1 corresponds to a HR range. if they are 10 beats apart then they cant both be correct.


 
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Like mogrim, no problem for me .


 
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@root-n-5th the term I use is polarised training - easy runs are super easy, hard runs are super hard. I was, and still am to a certain extent, guilty of doing all of my training in the moderately hardish zone, which doesn't reap the sort of benefits you might like. I saw my biggest improvement in marathon times after making my slow runs much slower, which sounds slightly counter-intuitive, but has worked for me. It certainly requires discipline to run slowly, and often if I run slowly I can feel more knackered afterwards than had I run more briskly, which is strange... However, an interesting podcast, or some good scenery can while away the time. Exploring new routes is best done at a gentle pace too.

@lunge the Novablasts seem fine, quite spongy and light. They did feel flatter than what I've become used to, as if the footbed isn't quite as formed to my sole, but one assumes that will change as they get worn in. After the first few minutes I wasn't really aware of wearing new shoes, which is a good sign. I think it's good for foot strength to get used to different shoes rather than run in the same thing all the time, but that might just be my isolated view based on nothing!

I have the Mulholland Mile to run this weekend, which I think will see the first outing of the New Balance 5280s, mistakenly given to me by Runners World for pacing the Big Half earlier this year.


 
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I am... Moving.
Did 40km this week, mix of walks, and walk/runs. Did 10k last night just walking the middle and last km. When I've borked something before, usually find that at least moving it helps.
I think the physios are open now so time to get it looked at.


 
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@loum can you explain how given my question?


 
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I forgot to say that I almost always wear a chest strap, but generally don't pay much attention to my HR while I run, but do find it useful information for later analysis. For example I recall vividly running briskly home from work last year with a very low average heart rate, which was a great indicator that I was progressing nicely into marathon shape.


 
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@root-n-5th the term I use is polarised training – easy runs are super easy, hard runs are super hard. I was, and still am to a certain extent, guilty of doing all of my training in the moderately hardish zone, which doesn’t reap the sort of benefits you might like. I saw my biggest improvement in marathon times after making my slow runs much slower, which sounds slightly counter-intuitive, but has worked for me. It certainly requires discipline to run slowly, and often if I run slowly I can feel more knackered afterwards than had I run more briskly, which is strange… However, an interesting podcast, or some good scenery can while away the time. Exploring new routes is best done at a gentle pace too.

I posted info of a book about it a couple of pages back. It rang true for me. When I was training hard I certainly spent too much time in that middle "zone" usually chasing faster runners.


 
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@surfer. That book arrived today and I’m going to start it shortly.

Thanks for input on heart rate, guys.

I must admit, I really felt the 55 min slow run this morning, although last night I got in fresh. Strange but true.


 
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Loving the book BTW. After yesterday’s run, I think I’m going to drink the kookaid.


 
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Just back from easy run number 2. Went on heart rate and perceived effort. Really hard to hold myself back from racing people up hills butanagwd it. 12k, 5:37/km pace which is a minute down on usual pace but felt good at the end. Legs feeling used but body in good spirits.

Mile challenge tomorrow, which won't be as pleasant.


 
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I broke out my New Balance 5280's for their first outing yesterday, a mile in Wandsworth Park. I did think that I should probably manage something around 4:30ish, so it was a bit disappointing after dying a death to finish in 4:45.

I don't think my choice of route was ideal, a couple of inclines and rough tarmac, but it was mainly the legs at fault - I certainly didn't do the shoes justice!

I was planning on repeating the exercise this morning at Battersea Park which is pancake flat and smooth tarmac wearing my Next%. However when the alarm went off at 4:55 I couldn't be bothered getting out of bed, so that time will have to stand...


 
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Something else worth noting on the HR zones front is that there are a few ways to calculate zones. I believe Lactate Threshold HR% is generally regarded as the best way, more so than purely just going off % of Max HR. You can change how zones are derived on your Garmin and you might even be able to do a guided lactate threshold test too. As already said more slow miles seem to help, there is a lot out there and 80/20 is common, 80% easy and 20% hard. Training in mid zone 3 neither helps recovery or helps improvement.

I've found training to zones helpful as a way to help me to run slower which takes some discipline.


 
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@turboferret - Those shoes look like you've bandaged your feet! Good timer despite your disappointment.

I did my mile and came in at about 6:11 with gravity assist. Not unexpected as not really been doing any speedwork. Hope to break 6 one day.

Finished the 80/20 book and loads of good ideas in there. Like the idea of polarised training and the lactate threshold (thanks @sowler) seems to be a good way to work out zones, as well as perceived effort.

I've got the club 10K in 3 weeks (same route for all, but can do it solo any time over a week) and I've devised a condensed training plan from a 12 week plan in the book - 1 week base, 1 week peak and 1 week taper, all on the 80/20 principle. Not sure it will be long enough but there are a couple ef hill type sessions, a bit of tempo, but lots of longer, slower runs. Some recovery runs are in zone 1, which I can't see being much above walking pace. Is that right? Just about got on top of keeping in zone 2, which feels slow, but zone 1 is going to be tough!

Hoping to go sub 45 on a flat course - I did it last time with a nice gravity drop for the first 2Km. Being not very experienced at 10K I think I went off too fast and suffered for about 95% of it and slightly twinged my arch. Going to go off slower and build up throughout the race.

Discovered Garmin Connect Workouts. Created all of the training sessions I need in Garmin Connect, which was really easy, uploaded to my watch, added them to the calendar, so I just get on my shoes, get out there and press go.

As for shoes, I talked to a really helpful chap at a shop called Northern Runner. I was going to buy some wide toe box Brooks, but ended up with some Topo Ultrafly in size 12. So far so good - loads of room in the toes, lighter than my Saucony, lower drop at 5mm which I like and after 35Km the arch pain is going. Expensive but hopefully worth it.

Keep at it all.


 
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First very unofficial “club run” last night, 3 groups of 3 people set off in different directions. I decided to join the faster group to see how my high mileage/low pace spring has left my legs.

And I absolutely loved it. I find it so hard to go and push myself to run fast when training solo so going with a group suddenly pushed me way out of my comfort zone. Felt shattered at the end as I really had to work he’d to hang on at one point, but my gosh it was worth it.

It was great to be, very unofficially, back.


 
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I find it so hard to go and push myself to run fast when training solo so going with a group suddenly pushed me way out of my comfort zone.

Training in a group for whatever sport is so much better. Even a seemingly solitary sport like running. And you gotta love that shattered feeling after a decent training session!


 
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I'm getting used to running on my own - hope I'm not getting anti-social.

I'm a big admirer of Garmin kit. Managed to find my Garmin chest strap HRM that I got with my Edge705 in 2009. Not used for about 9 years. Put a new battery in, put it on, set watch to find it and, Boom, it works. Seems more stable than the wrist but I'm going to have to tweak my zones a bit.

Been running 3 days in a row. Feeling it a bit but hill reps tomorrow.


 
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I like running on my own, but when it comes to training I find a group is much better. Not to mention the social aspect, but that's obviously a bit more subjective!


 
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Ahh damn it, my VO2 max on garmin had just increased to 52 before my shoulder injury, after 3 weeks off it was at 51, then 50 after todays run.

That's what 3 weeks not running does I suppose. Getting back into it now though, should do over 15k this week, will do the same next week to get the legs used to running 3x a week again.


 
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I've been running steadily last few months, mostly road to trail stuff up to half marathon distance, fartlek-esque in that I'll bang the occasional segment or climb, then amble along afterwards.

I thought that not doing my daily bike commute, or having any races planned and hence no real training as such, intervals or that, might have affected overall fitness but according to garmin vo2max has crept up to 64, only one point lower than when I actually did some training for Balmoral last april. Managed a 41m 10k a month back so can't grumble.


 
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Ffs. Just turned my ankle 1km into a nice steady long run I’d planned to fill in some time while the dog was in the vets. One of those bang-you’re-on-the-deck before you even know what happened moments. Suspect that’s me out for a few weeks as can only hobble on it at the minute.


 
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Running sometimes play a its part in boosting fitness. But i mostly focus on cycling, during training i use weights, which strengthen my legs and stamina.


 
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@dashed these things happen 🙁

Any plans for this weekend? I really ought to be resting as I'm nursing a calf injury, but it's the first weekend my mates are allowed out since lockdown started, so I suspect a 20km run up a mountain is on the cards...


 
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Plans for weekend? I've done no running this week, fancied a break, and the local trails are dry as a witches tit, so been biking instead. Got the WHW virtual relay tomorrow, 9.6 miles each, though I'll have to run the 5 miles back from the person I'm handing over to's house afterwards.


 
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@dashed Ice and elevation plus NSAIDS for a few days. Sometimes these things clear up quite quickly although they are bloody painful at the time.


 
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@surfer - fingers crossed! 😁


 
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@dashed. Nasty that but hopefully mend soon. Too easy to do.

4 days of consecutive running here - first time ever. Today was fifth day and program said a 45 min run in zone 1. An outing with the 4 year old On bike keeping up at a brisk walk was sufficient. It's meant to he REALLY easy.

I've lowered my zones a bit as I think my zone 2 was too high. Long run tomorrow in zone 2 which will be pleasant.

Did hill reps yesterday for the first time in ages. 8x1 min with 2 mins recovery down. Went well and got a strava KOM without knowing. Not particularly relevant but inspires a bit.

Programmed workouts into Garmin forerunner watch and it's truly brilliant!


 
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So todays big achievement was that I finally managed to get seen by a physio. 🙂

Physio thinks I have damaged a ligament. 🙁

I now have a list of exercises to do twice a day and another appointment in 2 weeks.


 
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In the absence of spring marathons I decided a silly goal was appropriate, and this appeared on my radar, the Jubilee Greenway, a 60km ring around London.

Did a bit of a recce for the start this morning, which including running to and from, was 38km. After yesterdays session I certainly felt it in the legs. Starting just after 4:30am meant it was nice and quiet out and I was home by 7. The plan is to run it on the longest day, next Saturday and knock about an hour off the current record. This is well into unchartered territory as I've only ever run supported marathons as my longest events, so in preparation I bought an ultra vest to carry some fluids. Decathlon only had XS but I thought I'd take a punt as I'm pretty scrawny. Turns out it's a pretty good fit for a 4 1/2 year old 😀

I started this morning with about half a litre, and only had a few sips - as much as I could really stomach, along with 3 gels, but had lost about 1.5kg in sweat according to the scales by the time I got home. We shall see how it goes next weekend!


 
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Well, you will choose these easy challenges! Good luck. I still think your buggy 5k should be recognised. If they can give credit to someone who has the most toothpicks in their heard surely yours is less trivial that that!

Did 17k in zone 2 today. Crawling pace by the end but stuck to it. It better had work!


 
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17.5k for the week, apart from some sore calves when running (which goes away if I up the pace...) that felt pretty good.

Last full week of running was at the end of April, was doing 20-25k a week.

Another 15-18k next week and then I'll start gradually upping the distance, as I was planning to do a month ago! 😬


 
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Day 87 of my lockdown streak and another 60+ mile week complete. Had a couple of days when I just didn’t want to go this week but dragged myself out and am glad I did.
My running club is doing some very unofficial club runs too which have been awesome.
When the weather is this good it’s just awesome to be out running.


 
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Just realised I did 49.3Km last week, which is more than my monthly total from not long ago. A few aches and pains, but rest day today and back on it tomorrow.


 
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@lunge - great streaking, it gets to a point where you'll not want to break it no matter what. I was struggling after Dewsbury 10k with a very sore calf which I almost certainly should have rested, but managed to drag myself out for a week of 3 to 4 mile efforts just to keep my streak intact. That was in Feb so about 9 months into my current streak. I wasn't going to be denied this time like I was previously with the dog/leg interface. Keep up the good work!


 
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@alanf, I've had a few days when I just didn't want to play, but dragged myself out. My rule is that to count as a run it has to be 5k or more and no slower than 11 minute miles. Any less I classify as a walk!


 
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@turboferret Is the self-supported part of the challenge or out of necessity? I'd be happy to time my weekend run to coincide with dropping supplies to you if needed.

I had my biggest ever running week - 4 runs totalling a marathon, longest of which being a half marathon on Saturday. I wanted to get away from usual routes so it left me in the unknown a litte so had to contend with lots of busy pavements, road works and a steep climb at 19km, but it went pretty well.


 
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