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Have a route planned that is 1.1 miles, know exactly where it starts and ends so you’re not looking at your watch or phone. Also know roughly where half way and 3/4 of the way are.
I've made a new Strava segment especially. I normally use KM, so good shout on noting 1/2 and 3/4 points.
There's been a few sub 6 times posted already, so hoping to be inside 6:30.
Now to wait for the park to be quiet enough to not have to run it as a slalom.
Well, that was interesting.
I've only ran on the treadmill during lockdown, but in a moment of weakness, signed up to a club 5k TT.
Did a wee 2 mile warm up (eyes all wobbly, a side effect of only staring at netflix on an ipad for 6 weeks).
Then into it, 5k, tried to pick a flatish route, felt better than I expected, managed a PB by 11 secs, 20.31.
Which only pisses me off as I now know I had a sub 20 in my legs before lockdown, but never had a go.
Oh well, back at it, I'll get more running in now, now that Nicola is letting us out more often.
Next week's TT is 10k, PB from 2 years ago is 44.27, I should get a couple of mins inside that...🙏🏻
What Lunge said. I used to race anything from 800 upwards and the shorter races are the hardest. You have to be brave and go out quite hard, the last bit takes care of itself but you need to be on your knees well before the finish (figuratively speaking of course) but you do have to pace it as well so yes having markers is as to how far gone/to go is good.
Got worse as I got home to the point that I couldn’t walk on it and it was throbbing as I was sat still.
Looks like I’ve injured my achilles at the transition to the medial gastrocnemius.
Unlikely to be serious but probably due to upping your training. Ice and NSAIDS for a bit. Dont be tempted to do any stretching (dont get me started) but at this stage, when it is tender, it may make it a bit worse. Ice every few hours for a few days and keep active but let pain be your guide. Should settle quickly (unless you really have done some damage) then build up again with slow runs and walks.
If you can do a 21:44 5k then you’re running at 7 mins/mile, so a 6:30 for a mile is not unachievable.
Thanks for your advice - did 6:19. I'd have liked to have another attempt but weather was too good not to be out on the bike at the weekend.
3km test this week. Aiming for somewhere in the region of 12:15.
Another crack at sub-45m 10km for me back end of last week. Tried starting off much slower this time but same net result - 45:16. Grrr!
Not sure if I'm a bit under the weather at the minute though as felt horrible afterwards, quite crampy and thoroughly drained the next day. I've also developed a weird sore on my toe which looks remarkably like "covid toe" if you google. Starting to wonder if I've actually had covid and been asymptomatic. I've been really careful about social distancing so hopefully I've not spread it around the place if I have...
Thanks @surfer - I iced for the first day. After that I switched to topical Ibuprofen gel which seems to have helped. Still walking with a limp six days later and struggle a little on stairs but it is definitely easing off.
Been on a couple of short walks but can't manage much more just yet. Will try cycling on it when it gets a bit easier.
I am feeling very annoyed as I had started to get my milage up again (after a winter of not doing much) then injured myself by hanging out of a window (trying to avoid putting myself at risk by climbing on the garage roof to fix something, I tried to lean out of the window and rolled over on my ribs a bit and have probably fractured a rib). So for over a week now I am struggling to breathe in so running with it is out of the question.
Fortunately my two little 10 yr old girls have started daily runs on the treadmill in our garage and are now doing <7 minute miles. They will leave me for dead the next time we go out together.
Anyone finding themselves contemplating spending far to much on new trainers at the moment?
Currently in my basket are:
Nike Streaks - My favourite short race shoes, I have 2 pairs, but one is nearly dead and Nike have discontinued them so I must buy a spare pair.
Nike Pegasus 36 - Well, they new model is out soon, I don't know if I'll like it as much so best get a spare pair of these...
Nike Pegasus Trail - These are pretty much the perfect shoe for the ultra I'm doing in October (hopefully), so again, a spare pair is needed.
Asics Novablast - Oooh, new bouncy things!
I need to have a severe word with myself or I will likely be skint and divorced.
managed a PB by 11 secs
I hate you @nobeerinthefridge !
I started running yesterday, gentle 9km uphill out qnd back and it was maybe the slowest I have ever run without actually qualifying as a walk! Took about an hour... Last run was the week before lockdown, so 15th March or so, although after a sprain in Feb I was only gently easing back into it.
Everything felt wrong. Hips hurt. Left knee isn't right, and buckles when running downhill. Seems like the nerve problem I had last year, but my physio is still shut.
@lunge - I am afflicted similarly.
I managed to pick up a relatively cheap pair of the new Adidas Adizero Pro, in the prototype colour scheme (Instagram competition prize sold off on ebay). I can confirm they are bouncy and snappy and got me a 4:57 mile in their first outing, so I'm sold. I can't compare to Vaporflys as I've not tried them but they are a step up from usual Adios.
2 pairs of Nike Terra Kiger 5s - I picked up a pair from an outlet pre lockdown and find them excellent so I've obviously had to get a back up pair - I have countered this excess by getting one pair of TK5s for the wife - she is happy...
Not quite so much buying going on but did (in response to my 'what bouncy trail shoes ask the other week) buy a pair of Nike Wildhorse 6 in the rather Marmite colour scheme. So far so good, a lot more cushioning, almost a shame to get them dirty :-).
I will be replacing my very worn Inov8 X-Talon 212 soon too, now they've released the V2.
My running is somewhat curtailed at present and I suspect it is just overuse after being laid up for a couple of months with broken leg, awful pain at bottom of calf muscles and occasional shin aches, so roller on them and varying types of exercise. Although I do need to get my running fitness up to speed (sorry) ready for whenever the rugby season starts again, can't have a slow ref!
In my case it's not so much I have that many "active" shoes, it's all the retired ones that tend to build up under the bed... last time I did a clean out there were at least 10 pairs gathering dust and taking up space 🙂
@Spud - those new V2 x-talon 212s, is it just the incorporation of the graphene rubber sole as they look very similar to the original? great shows by the way.
In my case it’s not so much I have that many “active” shoes
Yes, what are you meant to do with the retired from running shoes? I already have a garden pair, a walking to the shops pair, a wear to arrive at races but not in the race pair, and various other things. The problem is I’m doing 60 miles a week at the moment which is roughly a pair of trainers every 5 or 6 weeks, I have no idea what to do with them.
I usually either dump them in one of the charity clothing bins, or my local running shop colaborates with a charity than recycles them. Although the last time I was in there the owner did say that he'd given a couple of pairs to a homeless guy that had gone past, which seems fair enough.
@alanf, indeed, it's the likeness to the original that I'm after, the fit is excellent.
I know the feeling re running shoes; since lockdown I came across 3 pairs which were on good offers. It wasn't long before that I bought my last. Been a few sales on other running gear too
Hi all, I'm a fairly regular runner doing 2 to 3 5k runs per week in around 22 to 23 minutes. Before lockdown I signed up for the Stroud Half (supposedy in October) so have been gradually increasing the distance and learning to slow myself down. I ran 13.5k yesterday in 1hr 4m at a fairly even pace, no particular issues, however; after finishing and stretching about half a hour later my right knee became very sore, hurting from the back and round the inside of the knee. Any ideas what I have done? Third run in new trainers (Ghost 12s) I have used ice and Ibuprofen, any other advice?
@neila, sounds like a bit of standard runners knee. Google it and there are loads of exercises to help fix t and stop it. It’s normally caused by pushing distance or pace a little.
Nothing to worry about and easily sorted.
A week in to getting back running outside again, the DOMS are kicking in 🤣
Fitness seems fine, 6 weeks on the treadmill and turbo has kept the lungs okay, but the quads have taken a pounding after being reintroduced to roads and trails again...
Still, not complaining, it's good to get out, need to start building mileage up again.
@Lunge, thanks for that good to hear. I had done a couple of runs and rides this week aswell so probably going another half mile on top of my previous furthest was pushing it. I'll have a look online.
It’s Sutton Runners 10k day!
Of course, it’s been called off but we’re all doing our own solo 10k.
New 10k PB!
Went out bright and early, started on the highest place in the known universe (Rose Hill roundabout), ran down to Merton Park and flogged myself around there until my watch told me it was mercifully all over. It was my first 10k “race” and I probably went off too fast.
Still, I got a pb of over 2 minutes to come in at 44:40 so pretty happy with that! Not sure I could do it on a completely flat course yet, but I won’t be far off.
Other than a few sporadic inconsistent efforts over the last 3 years, I've pretty much not run for over 25 years. A couple of years ago I decided to do more walking about with bare feet (had been a factory work wearing protective boots and my feet just felt dead, stiff spd shoes), mainly just the house to begin with, then I bought some 'Barefoot' Merril running shoes, and have been going on family walks in them, chasing after the toddler on his balance bike. Running around the flat barefoot playing chase etc.
This morning was my 5th lockdown run. After a short walk to start (and a warm up before leaving the flat), I decided to push how far I run/jogged before walking, again. Roughly 2.25 miles before I walked, gave me best 1 & 2 mile efforts. Felt reasonably comfortable, calves not aching anywhere near as much as the first three lockdown runs. Still a bit of shin ache but it's getting better. After walking a short distance, when I ran again there was pain in the ball of my left foot.
I guess that's what I get for running in zero drop minimalist shoes, but as mentioned I had my reasons for choosing them and hoped starting things off in them would help condition my feet. I'd like to keep going, but will be needing a new pair soon I think...Might just replace like for like. Or is there something with a bit more cushioning but still zero drop?
I love the idea of zero drop, minimalist stuff and started running about 9 months ago in Merrell barefoot shoes. Had the usual calf pain, but feet not too bad
After short runs but hurt after longer runs.
Joined a running club and nobody was wearing minimalist shoes. Nobody. And they were fast. After a few months I swallowed my pride, got some normal shoes with an 8mm drop and found my feet felt great after longer runs, the calf pain disappeared and knee pain went. YMMV.
Trail shoes are different. Lower drop
And more minimalist - i think they work because your feet and body are constantly adapting to the terrain.
Sirromj - pretty sure Altra are zero drop with plenty of cushioning.
The Altra look a bit too pricey for me. There's a few of them on Sportspursuit at the moment, but they're for mountainous rocky terrain - not Thanet. I currently have the Merrell Vapour Glove 3 which is very minimal. The newer Trail Glove 5 looks like it has a bit more to it and price is ok... hovering over the buy button.
I do like my Vapour Gloves, especially for walking around in! Think it was my second lockdown run where the ball of my left foot landed on a small protruding stone and was aching for a few days after so today may have been in connection to that - I've been more careful since and didn't feel like I stood on or let my full weight down on anything pointy today.
The main thing is, I've been feeling like once I get past the pain element of running I will quite enjoy it. I did a ten mile run a couple of times in my last two years of school and would like to be able to get that kind of distance again eventually.
Why are you into the idea of minimal or zero drop shoes?. Have you read somewhere that they'd work for you due to the safety shoes thing?.
I've no idea, what if any drop any of my shoes are, I prefer something that's comfy with some nice padding, give it a go!.
ps- worked in Engineering for 28 years, vast majority of that in steelies!
comfort over purist notions ftw.
If I was all purist about it I'd literally be running barefoot 😉
Would quite like to be able to do that though 🙂
If that’s your aim I guess you should persevere with the Merrels!
worked in Engineering for 28 years, vast majority of that in steelies!
Are your toenails as bad as mine! I've been wearing them for years since a colleague dropped 2 stage weights, 25 kg of metal, on his big toe. I at least still have a bones in my big toe rather than powder but steel toecaps have done my nails no favours! I even wear them when working at home so have spent way too long in them.
I'm up to 8 miles with 800ft climbing on my longest cross country runs at the moment which I'm pleased with. Will look to go up to 10 over the next few weeks if all goes well. I've had issues with plantar fasciitis on a couple of occasions in the past but I've found some stretches which seem to have it in control now.
When I used to wear steal toe caps my feet used to get all sweaty and sticky and smelled like they were rotting, my toe's skin was white and crinkled where they'd been damp all day, and the skin was eroded where they rubbed against each other.
Never really had bother with steelies tbh, quite lucky that way, lots of colleagues have.
Ultras and hill racing are the real toe destroyers!
Shoe question, sorry. After my full on 10k run on Sunday my arch started hurting. Shoes are on 250 miles. How many miles do you get out of your shoes?
Cheers.
I've never been one to count miles in shoes but you should start to feel more impact and "hardness" as the midsole starts to breakdown. I do a lot of my running off road so its not as pronounced and I run in Hoka's (due to a toe problem) but when I did more on road I just changed them when they started to feel firm. I always liked the Nike Air shoes and found them to be more resilient.
It is important to focus on the midsole and not the upper or the outersole. I am quite light on my feet and a forefoot striker. I throw shoes out that look almost untouched at the heel cos it never really touches the ground.
Similar to Surfer in that I don't count miles in shoes. I have quite a few pairs on the go at one time in various states of wear, although I know it's time to ditch them once I start to feel a twinge in my left hip. That sign mean that the shoe is about shot and upon inspection of the soles, usually means the grip has been worn away to reveal the torsion system below (adidas adios).
Having said that, I have some shoes (Boston 6) which are about 3 years old and have probably cover well over 800 miles but are still comfy and I prefer to newer shoes I've started wearing.
The trail shoes I wear will often wear out the upper before the sole wears out though.
I guess it's a pretty personal thing.
Some people at my club wear their shoes until they have all but disintegrated!
How many miles do you get out of your shoes?
Depends on the shoe and what it’s been used for but for road mileage about 300 is about when mine start to feel a bit different. I’m quite sensitive to it, I get knee pain when they’re on their way out.
Saying that, I have a pair that are getting on for 500 and they’re still fine, another pair of the same model I retired at 280.
I don't go above 300 miles now, in road shoes, trail/hill shoes, I theoretically would do longer, but they tend to get wrecked anyway.
Mine usually get up to about 900-1000km, so about 600 miles... It's not so much of an issue on road as my shoes are generally fairly minimalist, so there's less bounce to lose as they get older. However I should have changed the trail shoes earlier, while the tread was fine the lack of cushioning was starting to become a problem on rocky descents and was leading to heel pain.
Thanks. Mine still feel quite young really. Maybe the pain is just because I pushed it to the limit on Sunday. A few day's rest should help. It was worth it to get the time though!
A couple of years in and I'm still doing 5k at least twice a week.
I'm bored with the same routes because of lockdown - a few local routes I won't use as they have narrow bridges as pinch points that the dog walkers all use, squeezing past and allowing shit everywhere....
I know it really helps with my weight.
I know that roads suck for running on, my knees, hips and ankles all object over 7-8k... Yet off road I can run 8-10k and not have the pains...
Keep at it folks...
Can I just use this page to once again state how much I love Decathlon running gear?
Just clicked buy on a basket containing 3 pairs of undies, 3 pairs of socks, a long sleeve top, a short sleeve top and all for under £35. None chosen for price, all chosen as I like them and they work.
Absolute bargains.
Unrelated, 134 miles needed over the next 2 weeks to get to 1000 miles by the end of May. A big couple of weeks ahead.
I've had a couple of t shirts from Decathlon but found they hold the smell of sweat. Puma tops for me.
If anyone needs a bit of motivation, Christian Varley is currently running his 19th marathon in 19 days -
I’m bored with the same routes because of lockdown – a few local routes I won’t use as they have narrow bridges as pinch points that the dog walkers all use, squeezing past and allowing shit everywhere….
I'm finding this frustrating too. I've been waiting until much later in the evening than I'd like but means I can run the route I want.
Hopefully I'll be back running within the next week or so, crashed on my MTB on the 1st May (going down a narrow bridleway, an overgrown bush caught my right bar and ejected me over the bars, with my bike landing some 10ft away from me!) and landed on my left shoulder, which resulted in a mild shoulder seperation (self diagnosed), was very painful the first few days but I'm back to 85-90% movement with very little pain now, so will start running again soon!!
This weeks club running challenge is a belter!.
1 mile as fast as you can, 1 hour to complete it. Basically split it down into reps of whatever distance suit you, start and stop the Garmin until it adds up to a mile.
I've got an airport nearby that has a completely empty car park, flat and has a nice sectioned off road that is exactly 1/10th of a mile, so gonna go 10 reps. I know shorter reps would probably be faster, but it's more recoveries too!.
Surely you want a nice steep downhill section, then walk back up at a nice slow pace?
Agreed, you want a nice downhill for that. Not too steep as you lose your stride, but enough you get lots of momentum, and ideally a tail wind.
Downhill not really in the spirit of it!.
Managed my mile, split into 10 reps, in 4.16
Could've been a fair bit quicker if I'd not had curry 90 mins before the, but it's just a bit of fun.
Managed my mile, split into 10 reps, in 4.16
1 second faster than my best Nobeer.... zero stops 🙂
lol! That's a phenomenal time Surfer!.
I reckon I could get below the 4 mins, with a bit better prep, and keeping the sprints shorter. Won't be doing it though, there's a few clubbies tweaked hamstrings doing this challenge.
Could’ve been a fair bit quicker if I’d not had curry 90 mins before
boak!
Because we see so much international athletics on TV an Tinternet its easy assume that the 4 minute mile is less of a challenge now. 4:17 is a million miles away from 3:59 and I trained very hard all those years ago (200m - 25secs, 400m - 53:8, 600m - 1:27 and 800 - 2:01)
My mate ran 62:45 for a half and 28:15 for 10000m and still only ran 4:06.
The 4 min mile is still staggeringly hard to beat and by running it in sections you will get an idea of how fast it is.
I can't run a 4m kilometer without a decent downhill.
Well it appears I can't run much at all, after most of the year off. Legs are ruined. Not sure what's going on with my knee but it won't take any side forces without buckling, having to tread really carefully off-road. There's a fair bit of soreness down the calf and shin too. It's certainly not a running injury as I haven't done any!
I'm doing 3x10km jogs per week, alternating with riding. The jog (doesn't deserve to be called a run) is 5km gentle uphill, prob 180m climb, round the trig point and back down. My avg on the uphill leg is about 5.10-5.20/km. Coming down, the leg hurts and I'm doing more like 6min/km... Then I end up shuffling round the house afterwards for fear of the knee buckling under me. Rubbish.
Not sure if it's a case of HTFU and go long/easy until or if it comes right. Physio still closed for now.
Injuries are a fact of life I think. I tweaked my arch doing my 10K on Sunday- still hurts a bit today but not too bad. Thing is my shoes hurt the side of my right foot just putting them on so I think there might be something wrong. I really dislike hunting for shoes, especially if you can't visit a shop.
As for the mile, I did my mile challenge today. There's a member of our club who holds the record of 2:34 or something and the idea is that we all attempt to run a mile as near to that pace as we can and see if we can beat him. Even mostly downhill I could only manage 6:06, which is slower that he did. My speed has gone a bit over the past few weeks but I gave it full beans. I know there are people on here who run faster marathons. It's quite incredible what the human body is capable of.
We did a Kipchoge challenge a few months back - run 200m at his marathon pave (34 seconds). Basically a sprint for me - remarkable.
As for the 4 minute mile, I agree it has been diminished in stature over the years because quite a few elites have achieved it, but just trying to run at that pace for any length of time is an absolute eye-opener. About 30 second 200m slacked together, stunning. watching Cram and Co make it look so effortless back in the day always inspired me, but just thinking how Bannister ran that fast on a cinder track, in slippers and without modern scientific methods is simply stunning. Freaks of nature maybe, but it still took some doing. Surfer - 4:17 is mighty impressive though!
Facebook memories reminded me that ten years ago I ran a 23min 5k, so I tried to do it again last night. On pace (4.35ish) for the first 3k but couldn’t keep it up. Dropped back to 4:50ish and came in a 23:32
I’ll take that given a year ago I was struggling to get under 30m and five months ago I mullered my ankle. There is an upside to be furloughed I guess....
The 4 min mile is still staggeringly hard to beat and by running it in sections you will get an idea of how fast it is.
When you consider that nearly 4 times as many people have climbed Everest as have run under 4 minutes and they were both achieved within a couple of years of each other it puts it into perspective. And that in itself doesn't come close to really illustrating how hard it is. I'm sure there are a great many of people on here could get to the top of the mountain with the resources made available to them but I doubt there are many could achieve a 4 minute mile no matter what resources were made available to them.
I was really pleased when I got sub 4 minute per km time for a 5k Park run on a couple of occasions, I doubt I could get near 4 min mile pace for more than a few meters.
I really dislike hunting for shoes, especially if you can’t visit a shop.
Hate to piss on your chips even further, There's not much available in the usual places either, had a look at sportsshoes.com, oaft.
Set myself a couple goals for May and am getting ever closer to them.
300 miles run in May.
1000 miles run by the end of May.
Run every day in May.
I need just under 100 miles in the next 11 days to hit the goal.
In June I may even try riding my bike!
When you consider that nearly 4 times as many people have climbed Everest as have run under 4 minutes and they were both achieved within a couple of years of each other it puts it into perspective.
Surprised it's that many people under 4 minutes TBH, seeing the photos of the queues going up Everest.
Surprised it’s that many people under 4 minutes TBH, seeing the photos of the queues going up Everest.
Many people are or could get fit enough to climb Everest and you can circumvent many of the other challenges if you have enough cash. Can't do that with a 4 minute mile!
Re the 4 minute mile thing...
I finished second in a small race a few years back to a slightly older, slightly chubby guy (I wasn't judging him on that btw he just didn't look like a racing snake). I was a good bit behind but not embarrassingly so. An old boy I know clapped me on the back at the finish and said he reckoned that was an excellent result for me against that competition so when I got home I googled him and it turned out he had a mile PB of 4.01. He'd also surprised a few of the local fast boys as he'd been out of the game for a few years and moved to a different area so no one knew him.
Obviously he's lost a bit since then but class will out. 4.01 is super impressive but must have been a tough thing to be so close!
Many people are or could get fit enough to climb Everest and you can circumvent many of the other challenges if you have enough cash. Can’t do that with a 4 minute mile!
Yeah, that's sort of what I meant - given the hundreds of people going up Everest each year I'm surprised that total is only 4 times the number of sub-4 minute milers.
Not saying you have to like the guy, although some of his videos are quite good, but this is quite amusing. It's a 4 minute mile.
@root-n-5th 2:34 for a mile is a little far fetched, regardless of how many short sprints you add up. Assuming a mile is 1600m (which is being generous) then 2:34 = 154 seconds. 154/16 = 9.625 seconds/100m, or only 0.04 outside Bolt's world record.
I think my fastest mile during my silly 5k challenge was about 3:35, probably about a 45-50s quicker than I could do in one hit.
I fancy a go at an FKT or 2, Jubilee Greenway or the longer Capital Ring. Jubilee Greenway certainly closer to my best distance, and a relatively simple route which could be done easily at dawn and be done and dusted before it gets busy. Capital Ring more of a challenge with opening hours of parks etc and would be a proper full day. Maybe if all races are off for the year I might target it in the Autumn.
@turboferret. Sorry I was unclear. That is his marathon record - 2:34 or something. We are trying to all run a mile and see if our 26 miles added together would beat him. I have failed, but I get another chance next week and hopefully will be cooler.
I bet you could do a 4:30 mile?
@roots-n-5th that makes more sense, thanks for clarifying 🙂 I've never raced a mile, but based on a rather lacklustre 4:18 1500m from a few years ago I think 4:30 is probably within grasp if I worked a bit at it. My marathon time averages at 5:27/mile so I know I can do a few of them back to back when the stars align!
I love running in the heat, unfortunately virtually all of my runs are done at 5am or earlier before it properly warms up. Hopefully I'll manage to get back into a routine of double running so get some nice sunshine.
While you may not like running in the heat, it is good practice, and you do make physiological adaptations as a result, which will prepare you better for the heat, and also to run faster as you generate more heat. Last spring was perfect timing for a 2-week trip to India in the lead-up to London as I could get most of my runs in the high 30s of low 40s. Everyone thought I was absolutely nuts but it seemed to pay off
I’ll try to adapt, but it’s not just running in the heat, it’s anything. Anything above 20 degrees (much less if running) and my brain goes soggy, limbs lose coordination and I act like superman with kryptonite around his neck. I’m sure my ancestry must have been Scandinavian or from somewhere of cooler climes. I’ve always been like that and it’s a bit of a running (sic) joke in the family. I seem to perform best at a wet, muddy, January parkrun at a nice cool temp of about 3 degrees. It’s not pleasant, but suits me.
No choice but to get out there and change my physiology.
The president of our athletics club has a pretty impressive running resume, which came to light in a recent newsletter - I knew he was multiple National XC champion, but didn't realise he also had a sub 4 minute mile to his name!
Dave Clarke
1500m: 3:39.27, Oslo, 26 June 1982
Mile: 3:56.95, Crystal Palace, 17 July 1982
3000m: 7:54.13, Crystal Palace, 18 August 1984
5000m: 13:22.54, Norway, 28 June 1983
10,000m: 27:55.77, Florence, 25 May 1982
5 miles: 22:37, Wimbledon, 11 March 1985
10km: 27:50, Cardiff, 12 May 1985
10 miles: 47:25, Canterbury, 31 January 1988
Half Marathon: 62:11, Berlin 5 April 1992
Marathon: 2:13:34, Stockholm, 3 June 1989
That's some impressive range...
PSA if anyone is looking for sleeveless tops for running in this hot weather, matalan have decent ones at £8 each - https://www.matalan.co.uk/product/detail/s2768179_c270/souluxe-navy-gym-tank-top-navy
I bought a few of their normal souluxe running tops and they're good, was trying to find a sleeveless one and they've just added this one so have ordered a couple!
T-shirt suntan, begone!!
@turboferret If you search on Youtube you will see he was a prolific racer many years ago and I have seen him race a number of times he was one of our best runners of that era and given the "depth" of top athletes during that period, thats saying something. If you look for the Gaymers series of road races in the 80's amongst other city centre races of the time, you will see lots of footage of him.
This one has a short interview
Dying to get in the hills here (finally allowed, but need to stay within the province) but I can't run - or walk really - on uneven ground. Left knee just doesn't stabilise, end up with pain down front and side of lower leg. Might start by doing some easy walks.
Running on tarmac for now, 10k 3x per week - as mentioned above it's 5k +180m out, then back down the same way. Currently running the uphill leg at about 5 min/km, and limping back down at 6mins.
@surfer I knew he was multiple national XC champion and would regularly win Surrey League XC races as part of a fartlek session as purely racing was too easy. Didn't know he had quite that range though.
Thanks to @lunge I now have some new trainers 😀
Romilly was confused by the paper inside the Novablasts so she couldn't wear them as she usually likes
New Balance Fuel Cell Rebel are much more up her street 🙂
The Merrell Trail Glove 5 shoes came several days ago and this afternoon I went out in them.
They feel a whole lot less minimal than the Vapour Glove 3 shoes I have - which I can roll up from the toes to heels into a stubby tube. The Trail Glove 5 just seem to fold around the ball of the foot and that's it. The rest of the shoe is just too stiff to roll up like that. There's noticeable arch support too in the TG5, in contrast to the VG3 which completely lacks arch support. Probably a good thing as far as my feet go.
It was the first run since feeling pain in the ball of my foot while running in the Vapour Glove 3, 11 days ago. Felt like I'd gone back a bit in the walk/run/walk/run department, not getting as far before having to walk again. Though a bit different for me, I felt confident to try a few short stints of running as fast as I could to see how it went. Was ok, didn't feel out of control like I might fall flat on my face!
I thought I sweated a lot while riding, feels like I sweat more running - but maybe that's the slower speeds (especially when walking) so less air movement.
Any running shorts recommendation!? Running in lightweight summer mtb baggies currently.
Disappointed that there is a drop off in activity on this thread. I can only assume you are all out running in the sunshine 🙂
Jut reading this. Interesting from someone who was very interval based as a youngster to read about polarisation. Which seems to mean doing significantly less in the space between very slow (circa 77% of max HR) and very high intensity. As someone constantly trying to get race fit (V55) the 80% of training at the above HR is appealing, not least because it is less injurious and quite easily achievable. My attempts at getting fit have constantly been thwarted by injury but my training has included a large part of my training at a higher speed and HR which according to this theory adds little but is extremely tiring and increases the risk of injury. Only started this a week ago and am just running 5 miles a day and keeping my speed very low. Of course it really has value for me if that slower 80% translates into faster racing...
Any running shorts recommendation!? Running in lightweight summer mtb baggies currently.
Decathlon, but primark are my favourite tbh, although obviously not an option at present. Have a look at auusie grit, good sale on at the moment.
Oooh, Novablasts @turboferret, interesting.
I'd be keen to hear your thoughts on those as they are on my list to try. Heard some people raving about them.
Pegasus 37's are on my list too, and I don't think I can justify both, particularly if I pick up a pair of racing flats (NB Fuel Cells TC's or Nike Streaks) as well.
Disappointed that there is a drop off in activity on this thread. I can only assume you are all out running in the sunshine
Loads of running here. I'm a mere 22 miles off completing my May target of 300 miles which will take me over 1000 for the year and mean I've run every day since lockdown began. Legs are a little fatigued now in truth!
Any running shorts recommendation!?
Generally the shortest I can find in Decathlon work for me. Asics Split are nice too and I have some similar style Nike shorts too.
Basically, I hate long shorts to run in so short and lightweight is what works for me.
Any running shorts recommendation!?
Another vote for Decathlon. I particularly like the ones that don't come with an inner mesh to support your bits, but obvs you need to buy some underwear to go with them.
These are great for summer as you can fit two 250ml soft flasks in the waistband at the back:
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/mens-marathon-running-shorts-id_8518020.html
See, I like the mesh but, these are my preferred option.
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/light-mens-running-shorts-id_8488090.html
Been doing short runs with Mrs Spud as she gets herself running again, it's slowed me down and means I'm not going too hard and then having to stop get my breath back and go again. Trails are rock hard, as I'm sure they are everywhere, but pleased to report the Nike Wildhorse 6 are great, just what I needed until things get soggy again and I switch back to the Inov8s.
I hate wee tiny shorts, thighs from years of football/MTB don't appreciate the chafe!
These threads ebb and flow. Started month well and have been a bit slack as it got hotter and I’ve got arch pain. Been out a couple of times a week. Mrs root started “running” and attempting couch to 5k which I’m very proud of her for as she has never liked sport of any kind. Think it’s mainly to get out of the house and escape the kids for half hour.
Been doing 10k or there abouts, all on the road to avoid the massing throngs of Cummings wannabes. After my virtual club 10k 2 weeks ago I haven’t pushed myself that hard as it was incredibly hard, especially solo. I can see myself enjoying a competitive 10k with a large group as it seems the sort of distance where tactics, pacing and the ability to suffer come into play. 5k is just a full on blast from flag to finish, enjoyable in its own way, but, but not long enough for tactics.
Impressive stats from the Wimbledon president. Still got my second mile to do this week for the challenge. I fear I will be slower as haven’t really done speed work for months.
Ok, shoes. I like my saucony omni iso 2
Support shoes as I’m a knock-kneed eejit. But, I get bruised toes and my arch hurts. Shall I buy a pair of the same a half or full size bigger, it go for something else? I like a big toe box and a drop of around 8mm. These are for road and dry trails to link up roads.
Keep it up! Enjoy reading of people’s experiences.