[Closed] The resurrection of our Lord God Jesus Christ?

Oh no what have you done ..?

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You'll go to hell for that.

Oh boy.

What's that got to do with rabbits hiding chocolate eggs in elaborate cardboard boxes?

3 pages before its closed , mini egg anyone 🙂

Christian Zombie Festival is underway

I thought it more a case of re-selection of Jesus Christ ??

it is a more plausible story TBF lol

easter is derived from a pagan word.  It has nothing to do with Christianity  lol

Oh no what have you done ..?

I've made a better world for everyone, nobody laugh, nobody cry, for ever and ever amen.

And what if there was no virgin birth, it being just a lie to cover up the fact that Mary was a slag?

Serious amounts of cursing if ypu are sitting with your gran.

Easter is certainly the pre christian spring fertility festival co opted by the christians.  Bunnies?  Eggs?  Not a lot to do with Christianity and plenty to do with fertility

Let's face it the idea of some guy rising from the dead is a tad implausible, so what do you reckon did actually happen, if anything?

The entire Christian faith hinges on the resurrection. The idea that christ returned from the dead 'proves' his divinity. If we can debunk the resurrection we can collapse the entire Christian faith, hopefully before tea.

Loving that Crass album, not heard it since it came out 🙂

My landlady is a devout Christian and a wonderful person.

her brother died twice in a 6 week period and is now out of hospital. Does she have to worship him now?

Can we do it after tea?

We're having hot cross buns and it'd take all the fun out of it.

her brother died twice in a 6 week period and is now out of hospital. Does she have to worship him now?

<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">To be pedantic, the Christian claim is not that Jesus was resuscitated, as in the case of your neighbour's brother. The claim is he was resurrected - that his resurrected body was very different from our earthly bodies, which even when resuscitated, will eventually die. </span>

Blimey. Pedantry AND religion. Who knew..

Blimey. Pedantry AND religion. Who knew..

It’s always a surprise that any religion can demand exactness and vagueness in equal measure.

When do I eat my easter eggs?

I'll be going to the Paschal Vigil this evening at Lincoln Cathedral.

Just read the book (weird start to it)  and missed the bit where he lays the eggs? Is it in the sequel? Also no Dumbledore?

Blimey. Pedantry AND religion. Who knew..

I should emphasise I'm Pedantic, not Religious.

When do I eat my easter eggs?

Before the tooth fairy comes along.

The trouble with your Newer Testament here is that it doesn't mention the goldfish or the lincoln log, central parts of the story of jesus.

It's a shame he couldn't have waited until June or July to annoy the Jews / Romans and get himself crucified.

Does anybody else see the irony of a carpenter meeting his end by method of wood and nails or is that just me?

Does anybody else see the irony of a carpenter meeting his end by method of wood and nails or is that just me?

To hell with Jehovah
To the carpenter I said
I wish that a carpenter
had made the world instead
Goodbye and good luck to you
our ways will soon divide
Remember me tomorrow
The man you hung beside
It’s God they ought to crucify instead of you and me
I said to the carpenter, a-hanging on the tree

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I always thought I was the chosen one , as I too am a Car Painter.

So, he’s not the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy?

easter is derived from a pagan word.  It has nothing to do with Christianity  lol

Yeah, Eostra. The whole thing is suspicious, the fact that the Christian leaders who set the date couldn’t actually agree on the exact date of the crucifixion and resurrection, which one would imagine were pretty clear cut, and set it as a movable feast, from March 21 up to around April 9; they know when Christmas is, for Christ’s sake... It’s just a Christian celebration pasted on top of a pagan celebration as a means to get the great unwashed into church where they can be conned into handing over their hard-earned to a very rich institution.

But the Jewish Passover has always been at this time of year in fairness. And the gospels are explicit that the Crucifixion happened around Passover.

I think the nativity is more open to debate - especially the reference to shepherds watching their flocks, which suggests spring or autumn.

which one would imagine were pretty clear cut, and set it as a movable feast, from March 21 up to around April 9

Based on a lunar calendar. I always love the idea that we, in the 21st century, still base our year in part on a prehistoric way of measuring the year.

shepherds watching their flocks, which suggests spring or autumn.

No it doesn’t. They watch their flocks to protect them from predators or theft. Common in any nomadic or non-enclosed society.

Christmas is also a pagan festival adopted by the christians.  Midwinter solstice.  Holly and Ivy?  Not a lot to do with christianity.  then there is the image of Jesus as a nordic blond - almost certainly just a reused image from the romans when they became christian.  Probably saturn.  they saved a lot of repainting in roman temples.

image of Jesus as a nordic blond – almost certainly just a reused image from the romans when they became christian.

Except the Romans weren’t Nordic blondes, and the Byzantine Romans (who were the ones who actually became Christian) certainly weren’t.

That image of Jesus is from the European Renaissance iirc.

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Christian Zombie Festival is underway

I don't believe that Christians or anyone else need to be protected from insults and crass humour, but I do wonder why this was a necessary comment. It's also what I don't get about any thread like this. I mean you don't believe in God. Good for you. Why make clearly inflammatory comments about aspects of other people's religious tradition? Don't believe it. That is, of course, your choice.

If I lived in India as a non-Hindu, I can't imagine taking pot shots at Hindu belief on a bicycle forum. It's just bizarre behaviour.

Yeah, Eostra. The whole thing is suspicious, the fact that the Christian leaders who set the date couldn’t actually agree on the exact date of the crucifixion and resurrection, which one would imagine were pretty clear cut, and set it as a movable feast, from March 21 up to around April 9; they know when Christmas is, for Christ’s sake… It’s just a Christian celebration pasted on top of a pagan celebration as a means to get the great unwashed into church where they can be conned into handing over their hard-earned to a very rich institution.

FFS, I have spent too much time today debunking this bullshit. People talking bollocks based on a ****ing internet meme.

There are two calendrical systems in operation when calculating dates in the Church: the Menaion and Paschal. The Nativity belongs to the Menaion and is fixed. Easter (or Pascha as it is more commonly called by the world's Christians) is not fixed because it is based on the date of the Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring equinox. In the Latin West, there was no issue with this coinciding with the Jewish Passover, whereas in the Greek East, in order to distinguish themselves from the Jewish communities, the early Christian communities were concerned that Pascha NOT coincide.

Not that any of you will care for history or fact when engaging in religion-bashing.

Anyway, here's an Easter gift for you all. Enjoy the long weekend.

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There are two calendrical systems in operation when calculating dates in the Church: the Menaion and Paschal. The Nativity belongs to the Menaion and is fixed. Easter (or Pascha as it is more commonly called by the world’s Christians) is not fixed because it is based on the date of the Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring equinox. In the Latin West, there was no issue with this coinciding with the Jewish Passover, whereas in the Greek East, in order to distinguish themselves from the Jewish communities, the early Christian communities were concerned that Pascha NOT coincide.

That doesn’t explain why Easter would coincide with a pre-existing pagan spring festival. (Or not!)

And it’s not an internet meme - it was well established when I was growing up. (I’m old now.)

Blessed are the cheese makers.

Well, IdleJon, I don't know how old you are, but I'm not exactly young, and the number of times I have seen it on my facebook timeline today alone exceeds counting.

As for the coincidence, you might try reading link I provided. That said, it really isn't that surprising that Spring should inspire thoughts of new life and of fertility, is it? There are all sorts of rituals and festivals across the human race and across history that have developed around the seasons and their natural associations. It's really not that conspiratorial.

SaxonRider - I agree that there’s no conspiracy but the early Christians did their best to obliterate alternative religion and religious sites. The placing of churches on pagan sacred sites, the re-use of existing festivals, etc. (Not just the early Christians - this happened in South America and for all I know may still happen today) I can take you to plenty of churches locally which are located next to so-called sacred springs or the like. I’m sure you know all of this. My point was that you made an entirely ecumenical point which didn’t answer the question that you yourself posited. 😁