I think it's really good so far. But then I love zombie stuff anyway. With it being a Fungus rather than an alien virus or lab grown bacteria is kinda cool too.
Brutal final episode.
I thought it was now common knowledge that Bella Ramsey self-identifies as a them?
Therefore 'them' is the correct pronoun to use when referring to Bella?
I thought Willa Fitzgerald was very Ellie-esqe in Reacher.
Perhaps they could cast her for season 2? I think she'd nail it!
Perhaps they could cast her for season 2? I think she’d nail it!
100% Bella is in for season 2.
I thought it was now common knowledge that Bella Ramsey self-identifies as a them?
Therefore ‘them’ is the correct pronoun to use when referring to Bella?
She’s non-binary but they don’t care what pronoun you use.
I thought it was now common knowledge that Bella Ramsey self-identifies as a them?
Therefore ‘them’ is the correct pronoun to use when referring to Bella?
She doesn't care, as above, but if you do "them" is indeed a pronoun and doesn't need another pronoun in front of it. Describing someone as "a them" conveys something about you, besides being vulnerable to grammar pedantry.
Whatever, she's great in LoU as she was in GoT, Though she is indeed a shorty.
Therefore ‘them’ is the correct pronoun to use when referring to Bella?
you said
I had misgivings over the them that they cast to play Ellie
the them?
the actor.
It was entertaining, I'll definitely watch S2. Bella Ramsey did a fantastic job.
Bella Ramsey is currently 19 years old, playing a 14 year old. Ellie is 19 in part 2.
I really don’t see that being an issue…
+1, I don't think there's an issue with them doing "1 year later..." in the show rather than the larger jump in the game.
But, will wait and see, it’s a little annoying getting into it knowing what’s coming, same with the Ned Stark or the red wedding i guess!
I cannot wait for the internet to lose its shit when this happens, especially if it's as brutal as the game.
S2
Is that vague enough to not cause spoilers?
Few reports that part 2 will be split into two more series.
Personally I think the story is strong enough to stand alone, doesn't need you to have played the games, but it's def an added dimension to see locations you've 'been to' and events that you've 'experienced'.
Few reports that part 2 will be split into two more series.
TBF that would make sense, the second game does have a lot of story to cover.
I can imagine there is a lot of untold story between the games they can fill in so as not to lose a popular key character in the first episode.
I had misgivings over the them that they cast to play Ellie
I had misgivings over the girl they cast to play Ellie.
I'm still trying to get to grips with the whole gender pronoun thing, it's at odds with what has been grammatically correct all my life – rather than me simply being polemic/a troll... Replace the above bold text with a gender-neutral pronoun and what do you get? Or is it safer to simply sidestep the whole issue and opt for a job description, as you did?
Better to get it wrong here, than get hauled over the coals at work, further down the line?
Regardless, to my original point, I personally couldn't care less if Bella Ramsey self-identifies as a golden retriever - my point is that having played the games I didn't think Bella was a good fit for Ellie. If you hadn't played the games then Bella may have been perfectly suited to playing Ellie. Bella certainly nailed their role in GoT, but that role had a creepy 'uncanny valley' facet to it. The Ellie, in the games, had neither of those qualities. I have played the games and in my mind I just couldn't get past how miscast Bella was as Ellie, and that ruined it for me.
Don't get me started on just how miscast/misdirected The Third Sister was in Kenobi. Compare with Denise Gough's spine tingling portrayal of Dedra Meero in Andor, and you come to appreciate how important a believable antagonist is. The portrayal of The Third Sister torpedoed the whole of Kenobi for me. You never once felt as though there was any real threat to Kenobi.
As good as The Last of Us was, it feels to me as though it was a bit of a low point for HBO. It certainly wasn't in the same league as Generation Kill, The Sopranos or The Wire.
Yeah that’s what it wss, you struggled with the grammar so added ‘the’ to make it ungrammatically correct.
^^Fair, though not much is in the same league as Sopranos or the Wire. Must get round to watching Generation Kill.
So here's a gender-neutral pronoun thought experiment for you...
Imagine, for the sake of an example, the Board of Directors are looking to hire a new Sales Director. You ask your colleague if they know if there has been any progress in filling the position, to which they reply
"Yeah, they've hired a lady."
The gender neutral version might be:
"Yeah, they've hired a they." Does the first 'they' refer to the Board of Directors (multiple individuals) or a single individual with multiple genders? Likewise the second 'they'... today a valid parsing of this response could be a Sam Smith hiring another Sam Smith?
Or is it any less confusing to say:
"Yeah, they've hired a them".
Or do you sidestep the entire conundrum and say:
"Yeah, the Board of Directors has hired a new Sales Director".
How does one navigate this? Thoughts? I wonder what Noam Chomsky's take is on this issue?
This is to discuss TLOU. I suggest if you’re struggling with pronouns then start a new thread, it may not end well know. I mean you’ve barely posted in 2 years then come on a thread about TV show to discuss pronouns.
Must get round to watching Generation Kill.
I watched it last year, don't know how I missed it the first time round. It has aged extremely well. Knowing how the whole debacle ended just makes it even better.
I totally take your point on board.
But to be fair I did come here to discuss TLOU, and I made a few valid points, but the only thing that was cherry picked from my post on was my use of pronouns... so here we are.
“Yeah, they’ve hired a lady.”
I *love* the way you happily use gender neutral pronouns when referring to the person or people doing the hiring. And no, plurality isn't an issue.
Also, who says "they've hired a lady" anyway? Or "they've hired a man", for that matter? It's weird.
Your assertion would be more valid if people normally used 'They've hired a she" or "they've hired a he". Which, of course, is totally normal and fine and not in any way deeply weird and warped just to make a point.
The 'gender neutral' way of doing it would be the one that removes the emphasis of gender in any way, and is coincidentally the one that the vast majority of people would actually *use*:
"Yeah, they've hired someone."
It's a pretty lousy thought experiment TBH
But to be fair I did come here to discuss TLOU, and I made a few valid points, but the only thing that was cherry picked from my post on was my use of pronouns… so here we are.
To fair you claimed it was about virtue signalling as they hired a ‘the them’. You simply could have said Bella wouldn’t have been your choice for Ellie, then gone on to discuss why. But no, so you got called out.
I mean you’ve barely posted in 2 years...
And it's instantly very easy to see why. Welcome back!
Of more interest is who played Ellie's mother in the last episode. Despite looking unsettlingly like Bella Ramsey she is more Ellie than anyone else...
Lovely circular casting.
Of more interest is who played Ellie’s mother in the last episode. Despite looking unsettlingly like Bella Ramsey she is more Ellie than anyone else…
Because she is Ellie.
I enjoyed it and glad that the infected were at the periphery tbh. It's 20 years on. the last episode flew past. the end credits came up and i thought we were only 30 mins in.
Shootout scene was, er, interesting. The fireflies must have been terrible shots
Don’t get me started on just how miscast/misdirected The Third Sister was in Kenobi. Compare with Denise Gough’s spine tingling portrayal of Dedra Meero in Andor, and you come to appreciate how important a believable antagonist is. The portrayal of The Third Sister torpedoed the whole of Kenobi for me. You never once felt as though there was any real threat to Kenobi.
It's fascinating how your issues with casting directors seems to involve a black woman & a woman who identifies as non-binary, but the actor you mention as a shining beacon of greatness is a white woman.
Strange world.
Ellie's mother was played by Ashley Johnson who played Patterson in Blindspot.
I love how the guy who voiced Joel in the game got to play a part in the show. Lots of little nods to the game throughout that were extremely well done. Looking forward to see what they do with the second instalment. I didn’t think the game was as strong as the first. Got a bit convoluted and didn’t flow as well in my opinion. Definitely looking forward to it though and Bella Ramsey is fantastic as Ellie.
