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Buried in a little paragraph inside today's "City AM": "The Greek manufacturing sector returned to growth in January, recording the strongest expansion... for just over five years."

I thought the Euro was a failing currency and the whole economic area was about to implode?
Clearly, economic forecasting is as useful as long range weather reporting, it seems...


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 10:04 am
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Its all about perspective. The Greek manufacturing sector is actually a bloke called Spiros, who makes some nice vases in the shed at the bottom of his garden. If he got a bit of a spurt on and made a few more than usual last month, because the weather was a bit crap, so he couldn't go to the beach as often as usual, then he's probably doubled the output of the entire Greek economy's manufacturing base.


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 10:11 am
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is it coz theyve arrested a load of the far-right golden dawn ****s and they can now get on with a bit of work again?


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 10:19 am
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So having read the article, how much would a Grecian earn?


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 11:34 am
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so the entire eurozone performance is based on Greek Manufacturing - it is ******


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 11:38 am
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how much would a Grecian earn?

Before or after they don't pay their tax?


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 11:43 am
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[quote=konabunny ]So having read the article, how much would a Grecian earn?

About five stanzas


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 11:46 am
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So Woppit before you get too excited, the whole article referred to;

Solid and accelerated increases in both output and new orders lifted the PMI to its highest level in close to five-and-a-half years in January, and perhaps more importantly above the 50.0 mark that distinguishes growth from contraction.

So subtly but critically different. The [b]index[/b] rose to its highest level but only just crossed the growth/contraction marker. The actual growth was still low (but at least now in positive territory). And how was this achieved?

“Deflationary pressures persist, with firms lowering their prices again amid ongoing efforts to grow sales. A knock-on effect of this was a further squeeze on profitability, which in turn encouraged the advancement of productivity and more job losses.”

So no bed or roses by any means....still a good idea to read what is said before dishing a whole profession or two!!


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 12:01 pm
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recording the strongest expansion... for just over five years

However, in the previous 5 years it's been set back about 200 years thanks to the Troika of banks enforcing faith based economics upon them.


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 12:09 pm
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What was the "faith" bit. A fixed currency without proper monetary and fiscal coordination? Or have faith in a system where to evasion and corruption are rife? Or a variety of other factors?

Still the current "faith" of adjust by thrashing your youth is hardly any better!


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 12:15 pm
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Evasion and corruption? Rife? WHAT?!!!! In a totally democratically unaccountable, and wilfully opaque political system, fuelled by cronyism, and awash with billions of taxpayers cash?

Surely not?!! 😆


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 12:21 pm
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What was the "faith" bit.

The belief that punitive cuts will someone miraculously create growth if only they keep cutting enough...

AIUI the recent growth has been partly caused by a Keynesian investment in infrastructure products by the EU (sure I read that somewhere last week).


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 12:22 pm
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[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26014387 ]Not Rife but 'breathtaking' [/url]


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 12:23 pm
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Footflaps - I will agree with you there. But will take a different perspective to the OP. The economics and financial maths on that were clear, but then the politics and subterfuge of the €zone got in the way.

The troika proposals could only ever end one way. And the pain is evident for all to see.


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 12:26 pm
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[quote=towzer ]Not Rife but 'breathtaking'

Well you'd expect the European Commission to somewhat play it down!


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 12:30 pm
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some things in greece are looking good


 
Posted : 04/02/2014 2:02 pm