[Closed] The after life

dont believe but if it gives you comfort ..will this be rainbow bridge again?

nah, everything we "see" is processed data from our perceptual buffers, social conditioning and our brains will try and make sense or patterns out of chaos, you are basically just a mentalist 😀

no need for a kettle, i have a flask

Bless

After losing a friend I kept "seeing" him (similar looking strangers) for ages afterwards. We perceive the reality we want/need/are told to. If that is yours and it works for you then go with it, I fear there may be a rather opposing retort from teh forum.

Last night I dreamt I was running on all fours after a beautiful lady on a bike. I kept running and bounding and leaping, I was literally biting at her heels. As I got closer and closer I could smell her feet, then she rode past a butchers and I got distracted, then I caught site of a marxist cat called ernie and got distracted again.

I think the idea of conservation of energy could be applied

it was so real like she was realy there and for a split second there was an aura of light when i awoke...wierd but so real....

If she comes back tonight do you think you could ask if she's seen my cat ?

He is tabby, goes by the name of Ernie, and he died on the 17th of Nov at 11am.

Ta.

I believe in rein[i]tarnation[/i] - coming back to life as a hillbilly.

stuartie_c - Member

I believe in reintarnation - coming back to life as a hillbilly.

According to my Jewish engineering mate when we died we turn into carbon. End off. But then he refused to will me his property and refused to tell me his future arrangement once he is died. Weird because I am sure he cannot live in the same property once he turns carbon.

[b]elaine anne,

Yes, they will come back for a visit. Some might stay for a while others will be back to say the last goodbye before moving on. [/b]

🙂

I believe in reintarnation - coming back to life as a hillbilly

elaine anne,

Yes, they will come back for a visit. Some might stay for a while others will be back to say the last goodbye before moving on.

And you think this because??

As a matter of interest, where are they coming back from?

where are they coming back from?

have you not read "pet cemetery"? LOCK THE DOORS!

Actually I remembered I was told my first dog went to a nicer farm with more dogs to play with.....

At times like this it pays to ask yourself 'What Would Feynman Say'

This is an account of a conversation with the great man:

Once we were talking about the supernatural and the following anecdote involving his first wife Arline came up. Arline had tuberculosis and was confined to a hospital while Feynman was at Los Alamos. Next to her bed was an old clock. Arline told Feynman that the clock was a symbol of the time that they had together and that he should always remember that. Always look at the clock to remember the time we have together, she said. The day that Arline died in the hospital, Feynman was given a note from the nurse that indicated the time of death. Feynman noted that the clock had stopped at exactly that time. It was as if the clock, which had been a symbol of their time together, had stopped at the moment of her death. Did you make a connection? I asked "NO! NOT FOR A SECOND!" he said "I immediately began to think how this could have happened. And I realized that the clock was old and was always breaking. That the clock probably stopped some time before and the nurse coming in to the room to record the time of death would have looked at the clock and jotted down the time from that. I never made any supernatural connection, not even for a second. I just wanted to figure out how it happened."

I am going to be cremated when I die (I told my wife that tonight and she wasn't very happy), so I reckon there isn't going to be much left of me to come back.

Then again, that conflicts with some of the stuff I have learned about spirituality.

Hmmm, I am confused.

So for you scientists I suggest you try out this experiment if you have a pet which is near departing.

By a bottle of perfume with scent that you never associate with (try not to smell it just in case you bias the experiment) then just before your pet draw its last breath spray some onto its body. But cover your nose etc so you're not contaminated with the scent. Take shower immediately after. Do not tell anyone in the family that you have scent marked the body of your dead pet. Do not use the perfume as it might bias the experiment.

The next test ... sit and wait for the next few days to see if the scent come back to your house. If any of your family members smell the scent then you have a result.

If so then you pet is back to say the last good bye. If not then you are a tight bar-Stewarts that never treated it well while it was alive.

Same technique can be applied to human ... 🙂

Why is the dream about the dog not just a dream about a dog? And why is the mist not just mist? Can't see anything too weird about either.

Chewkw- why would an animal come back to it's captors, you've denied it's freedom to roam, hunt in packs, and it's probably a hideous genetic mutant through some evil selective breeding program and then to top it all off you want to spray it with a human scent so even if there was an "afterlife" it gets to spend it not being able to hunt the heavenly rabbits, 'cos it smells like a tarts boudoir.

iDave - Member

And you think this because??

As a matter of interest, where are they coming back from?

.... Attachment.

Past life association i.e. when it was alive it had a loving family.

So perfume can cross from this life, to the afterlife, and then back again chewkw ? Well I never knew that.

I shall take a bottle of perfume with me next time I visit someone on their deathbed.

Thanks for the tip 8)

tazzymtb - Member

Chewkw- why would an animal come back to it's captors, ...

Not all captors are of vile nature. Some are rescued animals and lovingly taken care of like a member of the family.

ernie_lynch - Member

So perfume can cross from this life, to the afterlife, and then back again chewkw ? Well I never knew that.

I am no scientist so not sure how that works but try it out. Experiment it yourself to find out if that is true or false.

Or try another technique. Use baby powder and sprinkle it on the floor where you can see paw prints. See if there is paw prints but if there is other prints ... if other prints appeared ... then freak out.

🙂

Why don't wasps come back smelling of wasp-killer spray I wonder...

or cows come back smelling of burger?

chewkw - Member

So for you scientists I suggest you try out this experiment if you have a pet which is near departing.

By a bottle of perfume with scent that you never associate with (try not to smell it just in case you bias the experiment) then just before your pet draw its last breath spray some onto its body. But cover your nose etc so you're not contaminated with the scent. Take shower immediately after. Do not tell anyone in the family that you have scent marked the body of your dead pet. Do not use the perfume as it might bias the experiment.

The next test ... sit and wait for the next few days to see if the scent come back to your house. If any of your family members smell the scent then you have a result.

Whatever you've been smoking must be good stuff 😆

marvincooper - Member

Why don't wasps come back smelling of wasp-killer spray I wonder...

They might have but perhaps they could not be bothered as there is not immediately attachment or association with you. i.e. life's too short to bother with and they have move on.

tazzymtb - Member

or cows come back smelling of burger?

Applying scientific rationality ... do you have cows as pets in your house? 😆

MarkBrewer - Member

Whatever you've been smoking must be good stuff

LOL! Try the experiment yourself but try not to freak out if it appears to be true. Yes, try not to smoke some shite as that will bias the experiment.

I am no scientist

I guessed that you might not have been.

"Intuition" you could say.

Oh dear...... get a grip!

ernie_lynch - Member

I guessed that you might not have been.

"Intuition" you could say.

But isn't applying scientific inquiry the way forward?

Absolutely. I'll buy some baby powder tomorrow.

I am no scientist

Applying scientific rationality

So, are you a boffin or not? I'm having trouble deciding.

"Aspiring scientist" I think.

ernie_lynch - Member

Absolutely. I'll buy some baby powder tomorrow.

What are you trying to investigate? Strange anomaly in your house?

stuartie_c - Member

So, are you a boffin or not? I'm having trouble deciding.

Nope. Am not a boffin.

But am I wrong in saying that it can be "scientifically", in a control environment, tested?

What are you trying to investigate? Strange anomaly in your house?

Well yeah of course......I want to know if my cat is coming back a night to see me.

[i]"The product of delta x and delta p is greater than equal to h-bar divided by two"
[/i]
Was that Werner Heisenberg or Mystic Meg?

But am I wrong in saying that it can be "scientifically", in a control environment, tested?

Probably, though I'm not sure what the question means.

BTW RE :

See if there is paw prints but if there is other prints ... if other prints appeared ... then freak out.

What "other prints" might I see ?

I want to know if my cat is coming back a night to see me.

Schrödinger's cat [i]might[/i]...

ernie_lynch - Member

Well yeah of course......I want to know if my cat is coming back a night to see me.

That depends on whether it has strong attachment to you, not just feeding time, or whether it has moved on completely.

In my experience dogs tend to "come back" more often but not sure about the cats as I haven't noticed that yet.

stuartie_c - Member

Probably, though I'm not sure what the question means.

I don't know ... you are the scientist so work it out yourself. 😆

ernie_lynch - Member

What "other prints" might I see ?

Put it this way if you are looking for the paw prints but other "prints" turn up wouldn't that make things more interesting?

I'm uncertain if I'm trolling or being trolled here.

I'm just a hillbilly, after all.