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https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/fashion/a22872539/tess-holliday-cosmopolitan-magazine-cover-uk/
This one
Now i must admit i'm not a regular subscriber, however i saw this in the supermarket. I'm pretty conflicted.
On one hand I understand that its great that the magazine is not using a stick thin airbrushed model for a change. I also understand the sentiment of putting a 'normal' sized person on there.
But lets be honest, regardless of whether you think that she is attractive or not, the model is (and there is no kind way to put this) unheathily obese. I have no issues with that in itself, her choice, but why is it acceptable to promote such an unhealthy body image on the front of a national mag, when its completely socially unacceptable to promote things like smoking etc etc
There are plenty of models/attractive ladies out there who aren't stick thin, emancipated skeletons. If you want to promote a healthy 'normal' body image, pick one of those.
Flame away...
How are they promoting it?
Never heard of her, so naturally i clicked on your link and the words to pop into my head would get me a ban if i posted them so i'm not commenting.
My bro likes a chubby blimp so i guess he'd be happy enough.
By putting it on the front cover of their magazine I'd say they are promoting it. You may disagree.
Perhaps the OP would have done better to read the article that goes with the photo, before joining in with the trolls body-shaming the girl in the photo, because that’s exactly what the whole piece is about. Well done, sir. 👏🏻 🙄
Can’t possibly do that Countzero, no you have to point that she’d obese and should ashamed to be promoting it.
There does appear to be no middle ground when everyone is allowed to call themselves healthy because they are not currently sick.
i can say that I am currently on a diet due to soaring body fat% and being an increased risk for diabetes, heart problems and other generally maladies... all entirely my own doing because I like to eat cake and biscuits and trifle and chocolate. I am like a goldfish or stupid dog so will eat until there is nothing left unless someone or something stops me.
you can look at the threads on here regarding food labels, soda bans, energy drinks etc. We have an unhealthy relationship with food and it’s far easier to just tell people it’s fine to be fat as anything else upsets them and is bullying. . it upset me when the doctor said i was getting too chunky...
for most of us it is our own fault when we are overweight.. sometimes we need a push, just depends on the person as to what that might be
...stick thin, emancipated skeletons
Ironic grammatical error? Or intentional irony?
It's all a bit too much 'Hey it's ok to be severely overweight, love your body, you are beautiful.'
Except it's not ok, it's very unhealthy and kidding on it's not is pathetic. Of course they are promoting it by putting it on their cover. Do it enough times and you'll start to get women and girls to want to be like that also. Just like it happened with putting all the ultra skinny ones on the covers and now with the airbrushing etc. Reading some of the so called positive comments about it shows that it is giving fellow overweight people the excuse they have been looking for to not to make a change.
"Of course they're mad that I'm fat, but that's every day of my life," Tess said in response to the criticism.
"The reality is I've never once told my followers or anyone to gain weight.
"I'm saying that I love myself and because that happens to be coming from a fat body and a bigger body like mine, people then equate it saying 'I'm promoting obesity and that I'm unhealthy'.
"Even if it was what I do with my body it's no-one's business."
regardless of whether you think that she is attractive or not, the model is (and there is no kind way to put this) unheathily obese
Not really your your concern is it ?
I wonder what she would think of you ?
This country’s full of people who are willing to point the finger and prod at something they disagree with, something or somebody they would rather criticise than accept.
Keep your thoughts to yourself I reckon.
And good for her, she looks amazing IMO.
No I didn't read it I'll admit that. Im not convinced I'm body shaming however, just pointing out the undeniable fact that it's not a particularly healthy body image!
Regardless of their motivation, you can't criticise magazines for putting images of stick thin girls on the cover saying it creates an unhealthy image for impressionable girls, then think it's OK to go to the completely opposite end of the spectrum with an equally unhealthy image. Why not use a plus sized model that represents what many perfectly healthy girls look like. Ashley Graham for example?
It's just my take on it...feel free to disagree.
I am still waiting for the cover of men’s health you be Johnny Vegas...
mind you I doubt many of the ultra ripped cover models who have trained and dehydrated to get the look are super healthy either... or I might just pretend that in my head as I will never put in the effort to look like that...
Not really your your concern is it ?
As we are “All in this together” and the NHS is funded from the community pot some people might feel it is everyone’s responsibility to look out for each other or to not be a drain on resources...
This country’s full of people who are willing to point the finger and prod at something they disagree with, something or somebody they would rather criticise than accept.
Keep your thoughts to yourself I reckon.
And good for her, she looks amazing
IMO.
The irony coming from you is pretty strong, given your history on here of constantly criticising everything you disagree with. If you thing she looks amazing then fair enough, but let's not pretend she's not obese.
They should just go the whole hog and have a picture of a fat lass (or lad) tucking into a massive fry-up, swigging Buckfast (other drinks are available) and smoking a packet of 20 B&H (other tabs are available).
Hey, don't judge, it's my body not yours.
Empowering the nation.
thin, emancipated skeletons
Emaciated.. Damn auto type!
If you thing she looks amazing then fair enough, but let’s not pretend she’s not obese.
Which no one is.
being severely overweight is indeed damaging to your health.
Being severely depressed because of it is even more unhealthy.
I'm far happier with someone being overweight but OK with it, than driven to self-harm or worse as a result.
She's got quite a twinkle in her eye, she'd be a lot of fun I bet.
No I didn’t read it I’ll admit that. Im not convinced I’m body shaming however, just pointing out the undeniable fact that it’s not a particularly healthy body image!
Body shaming is exactly what is being done. She’s not being treated as a person, or an individual. She’s being judged solely on her size and being criticised for not having a body in keeping with the standards of complete strangers.
She’s being judged solely on her size and being criticised for not having a body in keeping with the standards of complete strangers.
This is how the world works. We profile based on a look or a few seconds interaction. I would imagine there are some articles saying this is due to our inner monkey.
Chipps is reading this and thinking about an e-bike for the next mag cover
She’s got quite a twinkle in her eye, she’d be a lot of fun I bet.
Read that as sprinkles.
This is how the world works. We profile based on a look or a few seconds interaction. I would imagine there are some articles saying this is due to our inner monkey.
its funny how the internal filter gets turned off when people are obese though.
I bet they’d be much happier if there was a list of prescribed careers they could follow without disgusting people.
being severely overweight is indeed damaging to your health.
Being severely depressed because of it is even more unhealthy.
I’m far happier with someone being overweight but OK with it, than driven to self-harm or worse as a result.
She’s got quite a twinkle in her eye, she’d be a lot of fun I bet.
Can't disagree with any of that. I don't have an issue with her being overweight as such, it's her choice and if she's happy then good for her. I just don't think it's a body image that should be 'celebrated'. As a smoker myself l, I don't think we should be promoting that either, but it's no less unhealthy than being obese. Yet one being fat seems socially acceptable, whilst images of smoking isn't.
Question for those of you who think I'm body shaming. Be honest, if the post had been about a girl who was unhealthily thin would you still feel the same? Because I regularly read articles about how overly thin models promote an unhealthy body image. All I'm saying is it works both ways, regardless if if its not particularly pc to say so.
I bet they’d be much happier if there was a list of prescribed careers they could follow without disgusting people.
I was was told by a friend to never trust a skinny cake maker many years ago...
Now that you can’t be racist, sexist, pick on religion and once larger people are out of bounds it will just leave gingers as the last people to be pointed at. Once that goes no one will be able to deflect attention
My first thought was shit tattoos.
bring back rationing!
Question for those of you who think I’m body shaming. Be honest, if the post had been about a girl who was unhealthily thin would you still feel the same?
yes. The mistake you made was not reading the article and just making a judgement based on the picture
And good for her, she looks amazing IMO.looks like another bullshit, airbrushed, unobtainable cover shoot to me, exactly the same as every single other one they’ve ever done. Nothing ****ing different at all.
but it’s no less unhealthy than being obese
No it's far worse including those nearby.
Question for those of you who think I’m body shaming. Be honest, if the post had been about a girl who was unhealthily thin would you still feel the same?
Yes. You are the one making a song and dance about it, like it or not that's what you're doing.
My sister in law's pet hate is this assumption that every healthy woman must be this size and look that way. As a particularly slim women, owing to a career as a ballet dancer, all that stuff gets real old real fast.
Now I'm not saying that you are wrong but the way you are going about it isn't the right one.
No it’s far worse including those nearby
Obviously I mean to say 'no more'! I agree that forcing yout smoke on others is not on..hence the reason it's been banned in pubs.. Something i have no issues with.
yes. The mistake you made was not reading the article and just making a judgement based on the picture
The article justifying it by the publishers? I was giving my opinion on my impression of seeing it as I queued to pay for my groceries. Im not particularly interested in how the publisher tries to spin it if I'm honest.
And my first impression was its not a particularly responsible image to have on the cover. As others have alluded to, there will be girls who see that who think it's fine to be dangerously overweight, they won't read the article either. I don't see how that is a good thing.
Obviously I mean to say ‘no more’!
Errr! It is.
The article justifying it by the publishers? I was giving my opinion on my impression of seeing it as I queued to pay for my groceries. Im not particularly interested in how the publisher tries to spin it if I’m honest.
so you have no idea why she agreed to be on the cover, and you have no interest in finding out because you think the reasoning will have been made up to justify the picture?
So you’ve judged her on based on the picture, and decided on her motivation based on your prejudice. And you still think youre not fat shaming?
Errr! It is.
Is it? Average life expectancy reduction is very similar. In fact some studies show that obesity is actually more dangerous
I'm sure we can both post links contradicting each other but you are wrong to make such a sweeping assumption.. It's up for debate.
So you’ve judged her on based on the picture, and decided on her motivation based on your prejudice. And you still think youre not fat shaming?
I've not commented once on her motivation. Please quote me where I have. I do however hold reservations on the publisher's motivation, regardless of what they may or may not say in the article. It has certainly gained them far more column inches than usual, this was front page news on the BBC site a few days ago as I recall.
You’ve clearly stated you have no interest in finding out anything about the article. So your entire opinion is based on viewing one picture and making your mind up that it’s wrong, it’s promoting obesity, and they should have used someone else.
You seem to be perfectly happy to stick to an uninformed opinion, why is that?
Nothing new under the sun.
The Venus of Willendorf, created circa 28,000 BCE - 25,000 CE:
Because like most folks their opinion will be based purely on the front cover! But as I have nothing better to do I'll give it a read and let you know if it changes my mind.
Knock yourself out.
not using a stick thin airbrushed model
They are using a size 24 photoshopped model.
Size 24.
The cover shot is an advert to help sell the magazine.. they've probably smashed their goal this month as even wannabe mountain bikers are discussing the fat lass on the cover...
My reaction to the cover was something like this....
Anyway, I think the magazine cover will be viewed by future historians as the defining marker of our slow inevitable slide into idiocracy.
Fat lovers will love it. Others won't.
I don't like it.
She's not healthy. I'm sure she will insist that she is happy with her body, but I reckon she has had difficulty accepting her size.
Many of my cousins are heffers and although they will all happily spend money on their eye lash extensions, their nails and hair to help detract from their weight "problems" none of them are really happy with their size nor do anything about it other than complain and then end up saying that they are big and beautiful.
Allied carpets..... Roll after roll after roll.. ..