Minced lamb thats paler than mince Pork? That was last week.
A new one- today Steak with thick fat hidden underneath the packaging. How do people work there?
How/food agency to complain to?
Was the packaging totally covered?
You can tilt to see under labels.
Some folk like a good bit of crispy fat on their steak.
Stop buying supermarket meat.
How do people work there?
What's that got to do with it - do you expect people to hand in their notice because the minced lamb is too pale ?
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Stop buying supermarket meat. and become a vegetarian, think of all the animals that are killed to sustain your need for meat,all GODS creatures.
I'm sure any sensible agency would tell you to complain to the retailer in the first instance.
I hate to say it, because it sounds all preachy, but dont buy fresh goods from the supermarket! Especially meat.
Support your local small retailers
Support animal welfare
But mainly, support good quality food!
You can tell im from ludlow (complete food snob) 😉
Try your local butcher (if there's any that the supermarket hasn't wiped out)
Ernie stupidly I gave the brand new local store a go.
Did you mean "How do people [b][i]shop[/i][/b] there?" then ?
BTW why didn't you leave the minced lamb on the shelf if it looked too pale ?
Local butcher...cheaper for better quality ime.
Lesson learnt.
Why are you buying meat?
Particularly - why are you buying cheap meat?
project - Member
Stop buying supermarket meat. and become a vegetarian, think of all the animals that are killed to sustain your need for meat,all GODS creatures.
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And so are cabbages. I chose to eat pig and save the cabbage.
I haven't eaten cabbages even since we had one as a pet when I was a child.
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Project Im not like that miserable lady garden-Morrisey. Meat is good. Nature is about making the most of animals ffs.
Well that lamb isn't going to be UK lamb at this time of year, so naughty naughty for that too, as well as for buying cheap supermarket meat.
Why are you buying meat?
Particularly - why are you buying cheap meat?
Pretty obvious answers to both those questions surely.
I just bought a leg of lamb and gonna slow cook it as Kleftiko tomorrow.
Mmm
Mattoutandabout, are you aware of the new Tesco production cost linked contracts?
Well that lamb isn't going to be UK lamb at this time of year, so naughty naughty for that too,
British lamb is available all year rounds. You're thinking of spring lamb but you'e be wrong there too of course.
Hora, I have been conned in exactly the same way by Tescos when buying steaks , when they sell two per pack one would be nice and the other would be shite. Happend too many times to be a fluke and since then I only buy from the butcher.
It is more expensive but better value at the end of the day. Best thing is that the people at the local butcher is getting to know me better and becoming more generous.
Less is more.
When are the Butchers open round your way?
During the day.
Nature is about making the most of animals ffs.
Ummm..... no. That sounds like an almost biblical claim of dominion... Nature is more about doing what is needed for survival. Of course other species kill unnecessarily sometimes, but man's relationship with animals, with food, has Jeff Hall to do with nature... 😐
what I kill, I eat
We eat animals, some animals would kill and eat us. Others would happily eat our bodies, many would dispose of our bodies.
Its nature- weird this veggie-dont harm the animals stuff. Even weirder when Veggies feed their kids from birth in a veggie lifestyle IMO.
Anywaay- back on topic. I don't mind eating offal or bad cuts as long as its priced accordingly. Tesco, it seems sells bad meat at premium prices. I'll switch to Asda with meat from my Butchers. Tough catching them open though.
You do realise they dye meat so it looks like what you expect it should, don't you?
Green? Purple? Look sit in the corner and eat your copious amounts of cheese but don't wave your life-choice to change anyone. 🙄
Supermarket meat is MORE expensive than the majority of local butchers, except when something is on special offer.
Have a look at the £/kg and make sure its not hiding behind extras like stuffing in pork joints or basting fat on topside joints.
They might have a few loss leaders but they make it up on other stuff. Bacon is generally an absolute rip off in supermarkets
Its nature- weird this veggie-dont harm the animals stuff. Even weirder when Veggies feed their kids from birth in a veggie lifestyle IMO.
Factory farming is NOT nature, pumping animals full of antibiotics so that they can survive an unnatural existence for our convenience is NOT nature, creating elaborate machines that do our killing for us on production lines is NOT nature.
Trying to instill some sort of morals in your offspring so that they don't just blindly follow the ignorant masses and fail to question anything this self-centred race of ours does [b]IS[/b] natural!
But still..... Every little helps... 😕
So I imagine all your food is sourced from small holdings. Right.
I'm not claiming to live 'naturally', its impossible frankly, but you seem to keep defining what you choose as natural. It's not.
[s]Factory[/s] Vegetable farming is NOT nature, pumping [s]animals[/s] plants full of [s]antibiotics[/s] pesticides and herbicides so that they can survive an unnatural existence for our convenience is NOT nature, creating elaborate machines that [s]do our killing[/s] harvest vegetables for us on production lines is NOT nature.
That's not to say that I agree with Hora's argument or that you don't have a good point but an appeal to nature isn't a strong argument.
Its already been said. Don't buy your meat from supemarkets. If people did in the past, I can't believe they're still doing so now, given what we now know, and have long suspected
[url= http://www.chorltonlife.com/profile/1400/w-h-frost-butchers-ltd.html ]W H Frosts[/url] is just down the road from you. Just go there on a Saturday morning instead. You'll know exactly what you're getting then
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We eat animals, some animals would kill and eat us. Others would happily eat our bodies, many would dispose of our bodies.
yes and crocidles would eat their young - what is your point - if an animal does it it is morally just and we can do it? Seems like it is a little weak as an argument
Its nature- weird this veggie-dont harm the animals stuff. Even weirder when Veggies feed their kids from birth in a veggie lifestyle IMO.
You are aware of two important facts
1. Children are born veggies and then you introduce meat - even when weaned to solids you dont start with steak.
2. Sit down and prepare yourself for a shock meat eaters feed their kids meat and some non meaters dont feed their kids meat.
All parents choose their kids diets not just veggies but only one is wrong eh 🙄
Veggies tend to think eating meat is wrong why would they then get thier kids to do it? You are free to disagree but you do the same use your own moral code as the basis for deciding your kids choices be it diet or whether to watch an 18 film aged 9 etc. it is what parents do not just veggies
TBH i fail to understand [ stupidity/trolling] why some meat eaters keep getting so upset about what veggies do and goad and bait. Does eating pale cheap meat sourced from supermarkets reduce your IQ or do the chemical just lead to OTT knee jerk reactions in slightly portly serial bike frame swappers?
So I imagine all your food is sourced from small holdings. Right.
Ah right so you should need to be like you and buy the cheapest meat availble from a supermarket with dubioud ethical standards and then complain on the interent or you just cannot comment.
Hora ...oh dear
1. Children are born veggies and then you introduce meat - even when weaned to solids you dont start with steak.
And what about carnivores in the wild? Lion cubs? Tiger cubs?
Actually, if you go back we are historically veggies, back in the days of the cave man, it was very difficult for them to catch meat, studies have shown that our prehistoric brothers were 99% veggie, only eating meat very very occasionally!
So you could say that veggie ism is more natural than meat eating.
I am a meat eater btw, I love nothing more than a nice free range chicken Kiev, sourced from my local farm shop 🙂
But to be honest I'd rather be veggie than eat shit meat from supermarkets. But that's my choice.
So caveman lived on lentil bakes and halumi cheese bites?
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Its a Modern-mans lifestyle choice.
Actually, if you go back we are historically veggies, back in the days of the cave man, it was very difficult for them to catch meat, studies have shown that our prehistoric brothers were 99% veggie, only eating meat very very occasionally!So you could say that veggie ism is more natural than meat eating.
Its not that hard to catch a cow though, is it? You can sneak up on them and push them over while they're asleep FFS!
It is a modern mans lifestyle choice, I totally agree. And not one I subscribe too, my missus is a veggie, and I've made damn sure, that our lad is not !
I was just pointing out, that historically we are more veggie than carnivorous.
I definitely wouldn't push cows over if they had a more cantankerous disposition, making them prone to irrational violence, and great big pointy teeth
We're opportunists - like chimps or tortoises - if we come across meat we'll have it. Except its easier for us now thanks to MaccyD drive-thrus and Tesco Express.
my missus is a veggie, and I've made damn sure, that our lad is not !
Quick Hora have a go he forced his diet on a child
A child should have a good and balanced diet. Let them decide what they like/want (within healthy reason)- children get fussy anyway.
good and balanced can be achieved irrespective of whether you include meat I
Within reason 😯 You would impose some control on what they can and cannot eat based on your own personal moral choices re healthy eating i suggest you have a go at yourself as well now
We visit the cheese counter for samples. Does this count? 😉
Always an emotive subject...but do the veggies wear leather shoes, belts, have leather sofa's / car seats?
I like meat, I have a leather sofa, leather seats in the car, there are various leather & sheepskin footwear around the house, so perhaps that makes me a better person, as I'm not wasteful. I don't expect to use just the skin of an animal & ditch the meat.
Is it just meat, or eggs & milk too that you avoid? At this point there is massive range of products that contain animal products in some form. Enjoy a glass of wine or beer? There's a good job that the finings used during the production process are animal products.
A child should have a good and balanced diet. Let them decide what they like/want (within healthy reason)- children get fussy anyway.
My lad had a veggie spell during his junior school years. We accepted it, although it was a pain producing separate meals. He grew out of it, especially when he realised his post ride bacon bap was off the menu.
Always an emotive subject...but do the veggies wear leather shoes, belts, have leather sofa's / car seats?
I like meat, I have a leather sofa, leather seats in the car, there are various leather & sheepskin footwear around the house, so perhaps that makes me a better person, as I'm not wasteful. I don't expect to use just the skin of an animal & ditch the meat.
Is it just meat, or eggs & milk too that you avoid? At this point there is massive range of products that contain animal products in some form. Enjoy a glass of wine or beer? There's a good job that the finings used during the production process are animal products.
Like I said - its modern mans lifestyle choice.....
gonefishin - Member
[s]Factory[/s] Vegetable farming is NOT nature, pumping [s]animals[/s] plants full of [s]antibiotics[/s] pesticides and herbicides so that they can survive an unnatural existence for our convenience is NOT nature, creating elaborate machines that [s]do our killing harvest[/s] vegetables for us on production lines is NOT nature.
That's not to say that I agree with Hora's argument or that you don't have a good point but an appeal to nature isn't a strong argument.
Again, I'm not claiming I live more 'naturally' (what this is, is very subjective) than anyone. If you look at my earlier comments I said that Mans relationship with food is anything but natural.
I just think we have reached a point where our relationship with this earth and all the beings who inhabit it has become massively out of balance. As mentioned, we are opportunists and sadly we have been able to shape pretty much everything on earth to our own ends at the expense of pretty much every other living or non-living thing.
Mind you, I expect something will be along to redress the balance at some point. Until then, I'll accept that I am human, far from morally perfect but conscious, and try to lighten my footprint where I can.
Like I said - its modern mans lifestyle choice.....
I would wager that many a 'modern man' has absolutely no idea what is involved in what makes his food, his life, so convenient. No interest in knowing either. By that reckoning, it's not really choice, its ignorance.
My lad had a veggie spell during his junior school years. We accepted it, although it was a pain producing separate meals. He grew out of it, especially when he realised his post ride bacon bap was off the menu.
My Niece was veggie for quite a while. She's 13 now and recently went back to carnivore. Apparently her coach at school had told her that she couldn't possibly get all her energy and nutrients on a vegetarian diet..
Just shows really, even at school you tend to get taught skewed and false ideals based on personal agenda/ignorance.
Everytime I see Lambs in fields during a ride I yearn for Lamb and always have Lamb that evening. Thats not a troll- I always chuckle though as I should be thinking 'awww'.
Everytime I see Lambs in fields during a ride I yearn for Lamb and always have Lamb that evening. Thats not a troll- I always chuckle though as I should be thinking 'awww'.
hora - Member
Everytime I see Lambs in fields during a ride I yearn for Lamb and always have Lamb that evening. Thats not a troll- I always chuckle though as I should be thinking 'awww'.
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Just take the packaging back to Customer Services and get a refund if you're unhappy.
They will always refund if you have a problem.
Support your local Butcher too. The meat is better, albeit more expensive.
She's 13 now and recently went back to carnivore
Omnivore surely?
Yes, of course... 😳
well strictly speaking their born just consuming milk 😀 and why not start with steak? with guidelines for introduction of solids at 6m now there is no reason to do all the faff with introducing foods slowly one at a time etc any more.Children are born veggies and then you introduce meat - even when weaned to solids you dont start with steak.
I would wager that many a 'modern man' has absolutely no idea what is involved in what makes his food, his life, so convenient. No interest in knowing either. By that reckoning, it's not really choice, its ignorance.
My wife brings me my food, that's all I need to know.
Tezkos has a cheese counter?
i still can't believe that some people are so desperate to eat meat that they'll buy cheap animal biproduct.
they'll buy cheap animal biproduct.
Ever been to a proper Chinese restaurant?
No, but I did eat ox cheeks at Rogan & Co last weekend.
so desperate to eat meat that they'll buy cheap animal biproduct.
is that meat from a clinically depressed cow?
Tezkos has a cheese counter?
i still can't believe that some people are so desperate to eat meat that they'll buy cheap animal biproduct.
I can't believe some people don't realise that there are different points of view, lifestyles and bank balances....
But there you go.
i still can't believe that some people are so desperate to eat meat that they'll buy cheap animal biproduct.
Its not cheap meat though. Do you consider Tesco's meat to be cheap? Alongside Sainsburys they are the pricest but with alot lower quality.
As Jeff Stryker once said 'I love meat' 😆 😯
Away with you PP and your fancy "seeing it from another viewpoint" nonsense!
Its not cheap meat though. Do you consider Tesco's meat to be cheap? Alongside Sainsburys they are the pricest but with alot lower quality.
So despite knowing this [dear and low quality] you went there to buy their meat and then started a thread on it being crap meat 😯
Perhaps remeber this thread next time you go shopping
Its a brand new store- I've only bought meat from there twice. Normally I'd never go near Tesco's but as one opened 1mile away I thought 'hey'
Jeebus! Hora, it's a Tesco store! They're all near enough the same.....shite! Just because this one was more local doesn't mean that the meat will be any better!
Seriously, try your local butcher....much better quality, some will be locally sourced probably and you get to know them quite well. After using mine for about a year, I bumped into to the owner at my lbs...turns out that he's a pretty keen roadie. I've since ridden with him and am on first name terms with all of the other staff. My bill is generally rounded down to the neatest pound too....little things like this tend to make life that little bit more bearable.
Yes yes we've established this now. I danced with the devil but I don't have to pay their price. 
[b]You do realise[/b] they dye meat so it looks like what you expect it should,[b] don't you?[/b]
I find most of the time, when a sentence starts and ends like that, the bit in the middle is usually an Urban Myth.
(Don't know if this one is, and I don't have time to look it up as I'm at work. But I wouldn't be that shocked if it was)