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Those bloody flags..... only 6 months until you can loudly proclaim your chaviness with xmas lights.
I'm north of the border just now...there seem to be alot of German flags fluttering....
4 months actually...
Why is having a union jack flag on your car a sign of 'chaviness'?
Nick - I don't make the rules. It just is, as is having them hanging from your house windows. Sorry if I've just broken the news to you that you possibly have chav tendancies...
because it's naff
Why is having a union jack flag on your car a sign of 'chaviness'?
it shouldnt be but if its on a Kia then its a dead cert.
Why is it naff to have a flag of your country?
Why do you need it I know we are over run with immigrants but the chances are in England you will find England fans so why the flags everywhere it looks like Belfasts protestant areas
In the jungle, South African jungle Three Lions sleep tonight, in the jungle South African jungle Three Lions sleep tonight.... A win no way, a win no way, a win no way....
Still got my flag on the van, guess I must be a chav then 😀
Why do I need anything other than food and shelter?
I don't actually have a flag, but I certainly wouldn't dream of putting someone down if they wanted one. I find it a but purplexing that anyone would really.
I think it's a sign of chaviness as it is brash and at the moment pretty common. There is no sense of British suave in displaying a cheap plastic flag outside the front of you house.
TBH I didn't care 2 days ago, infact quite liked the sense of pride it was giving people without any BNP connotations. Today though, I'd like to pretend that football doesn't exist, in much the same way that Rooney et al seemed to demonstrate yesterday.
I saw one bloke with 8 flags on his van last week .I guess he must own JJB Sports
Why do I need anything other than food and shelter?
And a bike!
My former boss made me smile today. After the ticking off I got for "not supporting my country", he's decided he really prefers cricket to footy.
Daily Mail reading hypocrite [in the nicest possible way].
Those bloody flags..... only 6 months until you can loudly proclaim your chaviness with xmas lights.
If you got hit by a bus tomorrow, just as your life flashed in front of your eyes, I can guarantee you will wish you worried about more important things than this.
Why is having a union jack flag on your car a sign of 'chaviness'?
I've not seen any union jack flags hanging on cars. And to take it up a notch into pedantry, it's the union flag on a car, not a union jack. Either way, it's the St George's Cross people have been waving around and will soon whip down and forget all trace of national identity soon.
The Southern Yeti - MemberTBH I didn't care 2 days ago, infact quite liked the sense of pride .......... Today though, I'd like to pretend that football doesn't exist
So it has nothing to do with "chaviness" after all then.
It's all to do with that world renowned "British sense of fair play".
Everyone knows a true Englishman is always magnanimous in defeat.
Unlike Johnny Foreigner he is generous and noble in spirit.
And always happy to concede when "the best man won the day".
Those cheap English flags hmmmm...
My observations on this issue have concluded that-
It's funny how those with the most apparant pride in their country are the ones the country have the least pride about!
Totally agree with Southern yeti - Flag on car = Chav end of
There i,ve said it.
My retarded neighbour had a ferrari flag hanging out of his upstairs window on sunday. Aaw poor alonso!
At my home in the US I have a St Georges Flag up and everyone thinks I am a red cross centre!
A copper mate of mine observed a house in Liverpool festooned with flags from every conceivable angle - all hanging from Christmas lights that they hadn't taken down yet. 🙂
yeti guy - MemberTotally agree with Southern yeti - Flag on car = Chav end of
There i,ve said it.
are you two related?
ernie_lynch - Member
...Everyone knows a true Englishman is always magnanimous in defeat.
Unlike Johnny Foreigner he is generous and noble in spirit.
And always happy to concede when "the best man won the day"...
and of course he won't blame the manager...
Keep your flags flying lads, nothing wrong with being proud of your country.
Just don't bring them north of the border 🙂
It's funny how those with the most apparant pride in their country are the ones [s]the country[/s] [i]I look down on![/i] [s]have the least pride about![/s]
Fixed that for you... Or do you presume to speak for everyone that doesn't have a flag flying from their house or car?
Utterly pointless really, I mean who are they showing them to? Other people in the same country? What's the point? What does putting up a flag "do"? It's like personalised reg plates...
A lot of people [b]had[/b] flags on their cars that weren't at all chavvy. I was quite surprised about this. However, big George Cross hanging out the house window? - CHAV.
Nearly all of the car flags have gone after the weekend.
Did you know they have the car flags in Germany too? (not George crosses, strangly enough). I bet they've still got them fluttering on the windows of their chavved up Golfs.
nothing wrong with being proud of your country
Well surely nobody is actually proud of the football team?!
Can someone please send me a German flag? I want to test Ernie's theory about magnanimous English gents who wave the St Georges.
GrahamS - That post may encapsulate the crux of the issue.
Utterly pointless really
absolutely everything is utterly pointless given a long enough timeline, most people live for the moment and do pointless things every single day because it gives them pleasure, the place would be pretty boring if they didn't
[rant]I'd like to naively think people may take slightly less interest in football and footballers after the dire england effort in the world cup, but come 1st ten minutes of the new season everyone will be worshipping the ground that rooney, lampard etc walk on and they'll be collecting their ~£120k per week after enjoying a longer than expected summer break getting papped in a VIP retreat in the Caribbean.[/rant]
GrahamS - That post may encapsulate the crux of the issue.
that some people do things that you don't care for but really have no impact on you whatsoever?
that some people do things that you don't care for but really have no impact on you whatsoever?
Ahh, so you're commenting on this thread, why?
Because I'm slightly puzzled why most of us, myself included, sometimes find the need to put other people down, presumably in an effort to increase our own selfworth, which is pointless, self defeating negative behaviour. Pretty cowardly too, I mean how many people have you spoken to directly about your distaste for their need to flagrantly display their sense of pride?
And always happy to concede when "the best man won the day".
We conceded that.
Then we started asking why we are so crap when we ought to be better when you look at the standard of players. Valid question, I reckon.
EDIT: +1 for nick
Nick, you just sound like a hippy now
you sound like a nazi then.
To add, I think that the way a lot of us act in a sneering supercilious way towards those we share our society with is a serious underlying issue, I don't care for it at all and I do believe it has a serious negative undermining impact on this country.
ive bought 2 car flags yesterday and a big England flag all for £1.50 so not all is bad 😉
But they're half price now - why can't I buy one and hang it out of my window/ car/ trousers??
Increase my own self worth??? By thinking it's chavvy to have a flag on your car, oh dear, oh dear.
I'll happily share my opinion of covering your car in flags with anyone. Granted I'm unlikely to walk up to a stranger in a street and tell them, but that's the beauty of internet forums isn't it?
If you overheard me calling a friend a chav because of his flag, would you stroll over and tell me I was putting him down to increase my own self worth? I doubt it.
Nick, you just sound like a hippy now
Lets just imagine for a minute that I am a full on tie-dyed flowers in my hair peace maaan, kinda guy, would that be a problem for you?
Increase my own self worth??? By thinking it's chavvy to have a flag on your car, oh dear, oh dear.
I was refering to the widespread apparent need to look down disdainfully on people whose tastes we do not agree with.
If you overheard me calling a friend a chav because of his flag, would you stroll over and tell me I was putting him down to increase my own self worth? I doubt it.
I've had a very similar conversation, albeit with someone in the pub I recognised but was not acquainted with, about a variety of things (including his horrible comments about an ****stani couple of have taken over the village shop) and other general prejudices, so yeah, I might.
To add, I think that the way a lot of us act in a
sneering supercilious way towards those we
share our society with is a serious underlying
issue, I don't care for it at all and I do believe it
has a serious negative undermining impact on
this country.
Are we not allowed to have personal standards?
And if we have standards can we not observe when people do not meet them?
I'd say that the "Do what I want. Don't give a shit what anyone thinks" approach is just as undermining to the country.
[i]Lets just imagine for a minute that I am a full on tie-dyed flowers in my hair peace maaan, kinda guy, would that be a problem for you?[/i]
Yes it would. Ya bloody hippy.
*hangs head in shame as never realised being chavist was akin to being racist*
Thank you nick for pointing out the error of my ways.
And if we have standards can we not observe when people do not meet them?
Wtf has 'standards' got to do with waving a flag??
Nick man stop being so intolerant of others views. Just let people be.
I'm north of the border just now...there seem to be alot of German flags fluttering....
😆 really? Now that is pretty lame but kind of amusing.
Nick man stop being so intolerant of others views. Just let people be.
So, getting back to flags on cars, you ok with this now? 😉
Wtf has 'standards' got to do with waving a
flag??
Looks to me like the breakup of the union isn't too far away now.
We O.K. with that?
What about after - would there be any point in having a "royal" family? Should we become a Federated Republic or join a larger FR of Europe?
and of course he won't blame the manager...
Hum I wouldn't bet any money on that if I were you... One thing I really really don't get, is how educated people from a rather rich country can think for one second that the results of a national football team is somehow relevant to what the country represents? How can you be "proud of your country" just by how 11 people kick a ball on a grass.
Thanks for my edit Nick.....it does read better that way.
You seem to be throwing your own ideals around a lot....too it would seem
Those bloody flags..... only 6 months until you can loudly proclaim your chaviness with xmas lights.
Nick man stop being so intolerant of others views. Just let people be.
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@Brack Probably, but I want to be open to having them challenged (even if I'm not iykwim).
Wasn't trying to offend btw, it was a rather clumsy attempt on my part to show that while it is easier and reassuring to think that we're all part of some shared perception, we ain't, we each have our own individual world view.
One thing I really really don't get, is how educated people from a rather rich country can think for one second that the results of a national football team is somehow relevant to what the country represents? How can you be "proud of your country" just by how 11 people kick a ball on a grass.
Some peole would make the same judgements based upon a few words scribbled on a page or a few dabs of paint on a canvas. Just depends how elitist your view of culture is I suppose.
I know lots of folk on here don't like or understand it but the national football team is a huge part of the national identity for many, many people and that deserves as much respect as would be afforded to anyone else's identity.
Surely one's either a flag-waving sort or one isn't. The result of a single football game (or even the tournament as a whole) should have no effect on the matter. Let the flags stay up if they mean anything to those flying them.