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Did one of those helicopters get too close? They are "choppers" after all...

his usual wreckless self.

Clearly not.

(sorry)


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 5:43 pm
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I do wonder what is going on for a 16 year old to do this,

Playing devil's advocate - a 16 year old can't be named and if charged maybe unlikely to get a huge sentence, unlike perhaps the adults who "helped" him...


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 5:52 pm
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You probably have a 16yo who filmed it for Tik Tok who's been arrested, but it was at night in a storm so whoever did it cant be identified and now the police are trying to squeeze it out of them.

Despite the criticism of the felling skills, it's actually not a bad cut in many ways. A decent size tree like that needs a big-ass saw to cut a single swipe through it and it has been done cleanly + its cut very straight too. Whoever cut that down wasn't new to a chainsaw. Certainly not a 16 yo lad I would think.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 6:04 pm
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They are “choppers” after all…

Only if you're American or a bit dim.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 6:08 pm
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Or have a sense of humour.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 6:09 pm
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Or have a sense of humour.

Oh the ironing of you posting that.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 6:13 pm
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Well I laughed.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 6:16 pm
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what hope do we have for a society that does this?

Our society didn't do it, some nutter did. Society is outraged and saddened.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 6:22 pm
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Recently in the Lake District National Park, illegal tree felling has been happening on an Island on Lake Windermere.
This conservation area has had several large branches and actual trees cut down from ancient woodland. The culprits are thought to be stealth wild campers, using the wood to build fires.

Lots of trees being vandalised in various areas atm, also fallen branches are taken from private woodland, which should be left to rot naturally for invertebrates and wildlife.

We've come across a violent farmer before while mtbing in the Peak District. His threatening behavior had to be seen to be believed. I was injured at the time and was walking my mtbike on a footpath that passed close to their farmyard.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 6:25 pm
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66949986

Some nice pics of the tree as it was and a close up of the chainsaw work for those interested that sort of thing.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 6:31 pm
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I'd horsewhip the ****...really. Such an iconic and beautiful location 🤬


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 6:37 pm
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*inserts stealth ad for unseasoned sycamore logs


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 6:48 pm
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Police have arrested a 16 year old boy.

obviously a job for Special Branch.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 6:50 pm
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Who breeds these morons ?

Pretty bloody upset by this.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 7:17 pm
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To deliberately go out to in to the field just to cut down the tree, this person has an issue that will continue for the rest of the person's life.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 7:49 pm
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Next they’ll be shooting planning officers. Oh wait…

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/albert-dryden-shooting-30-years-20859081

If they catch the culprit a community order to plant 10,000 trees at their own expense would be too lenient.

I suggest we brand the silhouette of the scene onto their forehead.

Despite the criticism of the felling skills, it’s actually not a bad cut in many ways. A decent size tree like that needs a big-ass saw to cut a single swipe through it and it has been done cleanly + its cut very straight too. Whoever cut that down wasn’t new to a chainsaw. Certainly not a 16 yo lad I would think.

If they had an arborist licence (or whatever), or working towards it, lifetime ban for all involved would be good.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 7:50 pm
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That’s what they was eluding to @bikesandboots a murder in a different county over 30 years ago. Apparently it makes all this behaviour normal in the north east.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 7:58 pm
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16-year-olds don't mark the correct cut line with white paint before expertly wielding the mahoosive chainsaw they got with a Happy Meal.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 9:02 pm
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Gutted to hear this today. Really made my blood boil. Mindless. They should make the person who did it sit on a chair made out of the stump and explain why he did it to those who walk past.

Rubbish felling job. No professional uses paint to mark a felling cut line or needs a felling cut line. Looks like they had an aborted first effort at a sink cut then went up the tree to try again. It looks like it’s been done by some farm lad who knows a little about felling trees or cutting up firewood or enough regarding how to get a tree down on the ground but not enough to do it in a controlled way or safely. There’s quite a big difference.

We had someone use a chainsaw to cut up one of our toilet block doors and woodwork up in a fe car park fairly recently. Caused thousands of £ of damage. What was more concerning was they tried the same thing on a nearby beech tree and an oak tree but only managed to get 2/3 of the way through before they gave up. They left a 60’ beech tree 2/3 severed leaning over the toilet block ready to fall. It would have killed anyone in the toilets if it hadn’t have been spotted and reported quickly. Mindless.


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 9:30 pm
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Raging about this. Mrs Bloke is in mourning, a picture of her hugging it in happier times. 'It's just a tree' but I can't get over how sad and angry this makes me.

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Posted : 28/09/2023 9:36 pm
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On the bright side, being a sycamore it will grow 5 new stems this winter and be fully grown again in a decade...


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 9:40 pm
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Posted : 28/09/2023 9:40 pm
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Disproportionately angry about this, but at least I got to visit and photograph it for myself.

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Posted : 28/09/2023 10:06 pm
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On the bright side, being a sycamore it will grow 5 new stems this winter and be fully grown again in a decade…

That tree is 300 years old…

It may well grow new stems from the stump, but those will be vulnerable to exactly the same behaviour from mouth-breathers who find some sort of amusement from doing things like that, just because so many derive pleasure from the tree’s presence, and even if they, by some miracle, remain unmollested, it’s going to take several generations to reach any sort of maturity.

😡🤬🤯


 
Posted : 28/09/2023 11:10 pm
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Yes this is a mindless act by a moron but given that yet another teenager has been stabbed to death we shouldn't be too surprised by the detritus that lives amongst us.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 12:03 am
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Just looking at blokeuptheroad's picture up there gives a real sense of scale and importantly, a guesstimate of teh size of saw needed to do the cut. Pretty big bar and motor if its done in one pass... not an insignificant effort for a 16yr old.

The simple question "why" probably is the hardest the culprit will have to answer.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 6:59 am
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An iconic tree has been felled :-(. By a person or others. Throw the key away...

However, near where I live 40 acres of tree were felled with all sorts of trees and some magnificent oaks. All protected in law.

But the developer interpreted the law how it suited them. The district council has fallen over and they have got away it, so far.

Still, throw the key away. But this happening everywhere both in the the small and large scale.

So sad 🙁 I just feel like giving up.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 8:49 am
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This is really sad.

Some years back, and local to me, someone cut down Glastonbury's Holy Thorn tree on Wearyall Hill. It was a much smaller tree but a huge tourist attraction and significant pilgrimage site for many.

Local rumour was that it was the landowner who, I think, has regularly tried to obtain permission to build on the hill, but I don't think that anything was done.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 9:03 am
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Just a thought. One little (faint) glimmer of hope to come out of this, is an awakening in people of the importance of trees in our landscape. We saw similar with the Sheffield street trees a few years ago. I think it's easy for for people to feel sentimental about an individual tree whilst ignoring felling of ancient woodland miles away. But events like this help people make that connection.

If anyone has a few quid to spare, I commend membership of the Woodland Trust to the floor. You can volunteer with them to monitor woods under threat local to you and they will fight to protect them, as well as planting new ones. They are a small charity but punch above their weight.

Planting is all well and good, but it can't recreate our precious ancient woodland any time soon and we have precious little of it left.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 9:10 am
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It's sad that someone cut down this tree but it's a small thing compared with the environmental vandalism done to build HS2 and other building projects.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 9:12 am
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Take the train, save the environment! But trains are rubbish, build more trains! Wait no, don't build more trains!

No wonder people get fed up with the environmental movement.

Anyway yes there's a thread for this, I know.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 9:15 am
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It’s sad that someone cut down this tree but it’s a small thing compared with the environmental vandalism done to build HS2 and other building projects.

As mentioned already, as this an ironic tree it may make people more aware of the other damage. A copse hardly anyone has heard of won’t get the same attention.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 9:31 am
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Very fair points but HS2 is cutting down acres of ancient woodland which can never be replaced or mitigated for.

People get fed up with the environmental movement because it points out some uncomfortable truths.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 9:43 am
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Indeed.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 9:45 am
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As mentioned already, as this an ironic tree it may make people more aware of the other damage.

Yeah, it's like rain on your wedding day, a free ride, when you've already paid.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 9:53 am
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I too am reminded that councils do this regularly - Perth and Kinross chopped down a Tree of the Year nominee which was much loved and used as a seating shelter on a school site so that the PE department didn't have to walk as far to the plastic pitches for lessons. There was a huge local and pupil campaign - and so they chopped it down overnight and it still was chopped.

+1 on this highlights how we should value and fight for all of nature, not just a single photogenic item.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 10:00 am
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there was this act of vandalism too not very long ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/23/plymouth-council-leader-quits-after-approving-110-trees-being-cut-down


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 10:31 am
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Yeah, it’s like rain on your wedding day, a free ride, when you’ve already paid.

Damn it.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 10:48 am
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blockuptheroad - that photo is so poignant.
I agree, for a fiver one can join the 'woodland trust'. They have a quarterly magazine, this organisation can help buy swathes of land which 'is suitable' for tree planting (not all land is). They help protect trees and have many activities and tree planting sessions for children. If you have land or are part of a community with spare land, one can apply for free trees.
Atm I feel so tearful and annoyed by ancient trees being felled that I'm possibly going to tie myself to the next tree in danger.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 11:32 am
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This is a newspaper photo of my neighbour, Kerry, on the stump of a much loved, former tree of the year and iconic local Warwickshire pear tree, felled for no reason by HS2 workers.

This was a few years ago, and the HS2 works near to the site now show clearly that they did not necessitate its felling.

They compulsory purchased land and systematically went about flattening everything on it, necessary to the build or not. A lot of it during COVID when everyone's backs were turned, including large areas of ancient woodland that were vaguely near the intended works.

Few people have any respect, understanding or compassion for the planet that sustains them.

What's happened is hugely baffling and saddening, but, not surprising. An overwhelming amount of people are just terminally Tuesdays.

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Posted : 29/09/2023 11:53 am
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Screenshot 2023-09-29 at 11.26.51

I hope that it's a political statement highlighting Tory environmental policy failings. Their policy announcements over the last couple of weeks are worse crimes than cutting down a single tree. Which is a tragic mindless act among many if it's not a political statement.

Haven't yet spotted the obvious logo/tree meme potential anywhere. Where's Jamie when you need him?


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 12:31 pm
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Word fail me that's so sad. We are loosing species and habitat at an alarming rate and only a few weirdos seem to care, I'm a weirdo!

I am off to ride my bike and seem some nature before it all disappears.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 12:32 pm
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Local rumour on a Cumbrian FB site, the culprit was a worker for the NT, he’d been sacked this week, so went back to pee off his ex employers for being sacked.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 12:34 pm
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Local rumour on a Cumbrian FB site, the culprit was a worker for the NT, he’d been sacked this week, so went back to pee off his ex employers for being sacked.

Yep its definitely going to be someone pissed off with either NT or the council. Not gonna be a 16 year old either way.


 
Posted : 29/09/2023 12:48 pm
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I'd put my money on a pissed off farmer.


 
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