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I like the old swear filter on forums, I can rant away and know that the robots will clean me up for the prewatershed crowd. However having recently been moderated here for a low level swear word I have some questions:
1) Is it Ok to just rely on it or should I put some effort into not swearing, is there like 3 filters and you are out?
2) Why was my low level word (its like twit but with a different vowel, and it had ted on the end, twitted if you like) moderated and not filtered? Was that just a filter oversight that has been corrected?


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 7:16 am
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**** would not appear as the filter would catch it, if you use techniques to try and get around the filter you will get a warning. That includes replacing the a single letter or more with a symbol. I can't see a warning for you so not sure what you offence was.

If you must swear type the word whole, if it's allowed it'll be filtered. If it is it'll get through or it's a word that hasn't been added yet.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 7:37 am
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The swear filter is ********


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 7:42 am
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**** would not appear as the filter would catch it

Mine was Twitted but with a different vowel? Have you added that now then?


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 7:44 am
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Is "twitted with a different vowel" even a swear word? I just thought it referred to hitting something, e.g. "I twtied that tree"


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 7:47 am
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I propose a vote to end the use of the ****ing swear filter. We're ****ing adults for ****s sake we should be able to swear as much as we ****ing well want. It's disgustingly draconian.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 7:48 am
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Scotroutes, that is what I thought, but I would have expected it to be filtered anyway. However it is at the end of this post so perhaps Drac can have a look and enlighten us?

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/2am-party-pooper#post-8497933


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 7:50 am
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Bother!


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 7:50 am
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A forum I'm on has a semi-comedic swear filter. It changes the F word to "fark", A**-hole to "peanut" and the Anglo-Saxon for female genitalia to "Daffodil" .
It is however far from infallible, as you can type in compounds of "Daffodil," thanks mainly to a town in North Lincs; Sdaffodilhorpe. 😀


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 7:51 am
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Posted : 29/05/2017 7:52 am
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Ere Jekyll, I've got a bike named after you.

Shit bollocks piss cock fart face?


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 7:54 am
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Mine was Twitted but with a different vowel? Have you added that now then?

Mods can't change the filter but the answer is no.

Is "twitted with a different vowel" even a swear word? I just thought it referred to hitting something, e.g. "I twtied that tree"

Good point. Also it can mean to be very drunk.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 7:55 am
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So, so you prefer to use swear words rather than the beautiful English language ?
Neat.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 7:56 am
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However it is at the end of this post so perhaps Drac can have a look and enlighten us?

Sorry I got bored. 😀

Not sure who modded that one and your context was being drunk. I think you were just unlucky but you got no warning so no black balls against you.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 7:58 am
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no black balls against you.
Racism or something else? 😆


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 8:02 am
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Sorry I got bored.

No need to apologise, as Cougar said chat forum=sarcasm, I was happy to pass it back...

Not sure who modded that one and your context was being drunk. I think you were just unlucky but you got no warning so no black balls against you.

No objection to the moderation, just wanted to know why. So in essence it wasn't a real crime, just tidying up?


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 8:12 am
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No objection to the moderation, just wanted to know why. So in essence it wasn't a real crime, just tidying up?

Yeah seems to be that because it's a borderline swear word unlike the shortened version.

Racism or something else?

Pool.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 8:18 am
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I'm going to start going for the Firefly tactic of swearing in Mandarin.So you are all ????????????? ?( Liou coe shway duh biao-tze huh hoe-tze duh ur-tze ).


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 8:21 am
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Even better considering the demographic on here?


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 8:27 am
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I just thought it referred to hitting something

It sweary-ness has a bit of regional variation to it - in some parts of the UK* its considered a pretty high-grade swear.

*The Nether Regions perhaps


 
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Posted : 29/05/2017 9:46 am
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Posted : 29/05/2017 10:03 am
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I've just seen bearnecessities' response to my edited post and I can't stop laughing. I really need to grow up. I may have left it too late...


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 10:41 am
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fun fact i got banned for swear filter avoidance for writing piss but as pi55 bit piss gets through so just trust the filter and be careful with your spelling.

I once did typo a swear filtered word but reported myself and they were ok about it.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 10:47 am
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I just used a word from local dialect which got past the filter, no deliberate avoidance and still got in trouble. I conclude that the Mods are filthy racists.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 10:55 am
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TBH its fair they have leeway can you imagine this place with no moderation and constant avoidance of the rules

SHUDDERS

As always i do not agree with every decision but i am happy we have them here.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 10:58 am
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It'd be a lot like Mums Net but more whiney?


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 11:01 am
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It'd be a lot like Mums Net but more whiney?

And less topic sections.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 11:13 am
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I called cougar a fud last week....

Maybe it makes a fanny of detecting Scottish....


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 12:23 pm
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Fear, uncertainty and doubt?


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 12:29 pm
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A guy called druidh once got a ban for referring to the residents of the village of Nigg in Scotland. If it's so offensive a word, perhaps that should be included in the swear filter too.

Other nominations would be;

Katie Hopkins
Piers Morgan


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 12:30 pm
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Never heard of him.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 12:33 pm
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Not sure who modded that one and your context was being drunk. I think you were just unlucky but you got no warning so no black balls against you.

I'm sure - it was me. I edited the post because it's something which isn't in the filter but (arguably?) should be. The filter uses an exact match which nicely avoids the S****horpe Problem but means that it's ineffective against variations that haven't been explicitly added (*er, *ed etc)
or portmanteau swearing. Which is fine, we can manually police the ones that slip through the net.

And yeah, it wasn't intentional on your part, so would've been churlish to give you a warning for it.

fun fact i got banned for swear filter avoidance for writing piss but as pi55 bit piss gets through so just trust the filter and be careful with your spelling.

I suspect that a) I know who did that (though it's unlikely to have been a ban rather than a warning unless it was the latest of several warnings), and b) it was a long time ago. We've had a discussion around this and it shouldn't happen now.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 12:37 pm
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Drac - Moderator

Never heard of him

Piers Morgan? - he's editor in chief of the ****t and S****horpe Herald


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 12:40 pm
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Piers Morgan? - he's editor in chief of the ****t and S****horpe Herald

I hope he's not from Nigg.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 12:42 pm
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A guy called druidh once got a ban for referring to the residents of the village of Nigg in Scotland.

I don't remember that incident and can't immediately see it in the history either so can't comment. However,

If it's so offensive a word, perhaps that should be included in the swear filter too.

We discussed this at length a little while ago. It's a swear filter, not a censorship tool. Whilst "****" might well be offensive, it's not a swear word in and of itself. Moderating such usage is best left to the bobbies rather than an automatic speed camera.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 12:45 pm
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It always amuses me that the behemoth that is mumsnet allows such fruity language seemingly without excluding some of the more easily enraged (judging by some of the responses that Mary Whitehouse would have been proud of) yet here at STW most are so well behaved and twitted (with a vowel exchange) is worthy of a modding.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 12:47 pm
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nah he is from the countryside


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 12:48 pm
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And yeah, it wasn't intentional on your part, so would've been churlish to give you a warning for it.

We've had a discussion around this and it shouldn't happen now.

Hope so, I got a 3 week ban without even getting any opportunity to defend myself after "deliberately" avoiding the filter (in fact I was about to edit the portmanteau I wrote when I realised it got through but the hammer had been swung before I even got a chance). I think out of three warnings only one was deliberate.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 12:49 pm
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I just thought it referred to hitting something

It sweary-ness has a bit of regional variation to it - in some parts of the UK* its considered a pretty high-grade swear.

There probably is a good deal of regional variation and it's a very difficult call. Places like the aforementioned place in the Scottish Isles (there's two IIRC, one in the Shetlands and one in the Orkneys) and the place in Austria that keeps getting its signs stolen just muddy the water. Should we be censoring place names? That seems madness to me, but then, give an inch and you lot will take a light year. (-:

So, the rule of thumb I apply is manual swear moderation is "would I say it in front of my mother?"


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 12:54 pm
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@cougar, nope fanny and fud are pretty much interchangeable. Indeed with the word as per OP.

Oh, and there's a ****t in Shetland too, out the Bixter/Walls Road way.


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 12:58 pm
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A guy called druidh...

There isn't a filter for illeism yet 🙂


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 1:00 pm
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So, the rule of thumb I apply is manual swear moderation is "would I say it in front of my mother?
she is clearly way politer than mine then 😉


 
Posted : 29/05/2017 1:00 pm
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"would I say it in front of my mother?"

I think theres a fair bit of regional variations in mothers too 🙂

You just have to mention Winston Churchill to my mum and the air turns blue 😆


 
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