of course black actors will be offended by someone shouting the N-word
Well, according to my in depth understanding of the subject (I watched Top Boy) there are contexts in which this word is not insulting. So why don’t those include a medical situation?
Maybe, but I'm not a fan of being offended on behalf other people, generally speaking.
Have any of the black attendees commented? I'd be more interested in that than some sensationalist news article.
I wish they would stick to to reporting the facts rather than articles being 2% fact and 98% conjecture.
Fair challenge
But let's not derail what's supposed to be a lighthearted thread.
Yes, several have commented, about the incident and the non-apology
But let's not derail what's supposed to be a lighthearted thread.
Sorry - I hadn’t intended to be controversial 🤪
The guy has tourettes, why is this even a thing.
Where do we stand on singing along to some NWA?
For the benefit of the hard of understanding, the outrage over the Baftas isn't aimed at the bloke with Tourettes, it's aimed at the BBC editing crew.
HTH
Well maybe it is disproportionate... I get accused of having intimate relations with sheep on a regular basis when people learn I'm Welsh.
I'm not saying that's as bad a a black person being called a ****, but it's the same ball park.
I just have to accept casual racism as 'banter' I guess? I pretty much do and I suspect something similar with black people.. I suspect they kinda just brush it off unless it's said with ill intent.
For example if my friend calls me a sheep shagger when we are watching the rugby I wouldn't care really. Likewise someone with tourettes, I really wouldn't GAF.
If a random person said it though, out of context, well, hopefully they have a good dentist.
And that's the critical thing. Context.
the semi-non-apology and response after is also not right. 'IF you were offended...'
I thought it was perfect. If you were offended by someone with a disability then that's a "you" problem. Are they hoping for nominations for Best Melodramatic Performance next year?
(If this is going to turn into a discussion it's probably worth a thread of its own...?)
OMG, I can't believe how disproportionately ANGRY this BAFTA news bollocks has made me!
Then there was Trump waving his finger and shouting down Zelenskyy like he was telling off a schoolboy, how Volod didn't smack him in the chops, I do not know. I know why I stopped watching the news now!
"1940's Weekends"
Oh, wasn't it great, spirit of the blitz and all that, remember those cheeky GI's with their jeeps and their chocolate? And Vera Lynn eh? We'll Meet Again, marvellous. Let's all dress up and have a cup of tea out of a proper teacup, maybe a sticky bun too. Hurray, a Spitfire flew over!
Why does no-one think that having a jolly old hockey sticks time about a war that saw the deaths of tens of millions of people is in gobsmackingly poor taste?
Fears for town's 1940s day future over lack of volunteers - BBC News
Not being able to exclude virtual rides from my activity feed on Strava.
Shove your Watopia... 🤬
It says... Spinning for the best part of two minutes.
the semi-non-apology and response after is also not right. 'IF you were offended...'
I thought it was perfect. If you were offended by someone with a disability then that's a "you" problem. Are they hoping for nominations for Best Melodramatic Performance next year?
(If this is going to turn into a discussion it's probably worth a thread of its own...?)
Totally agree.. you shouldn't have to apologise for something that's clearly beyond your control, much less be judged by it after being advised that this kind of thing is likely to happen.
That won't stop the whole thing being weaponised by certain aspects of the media thouugh.
The guy has tourettes, why is this even a thing.
Where do we stand on singing along to some NWA?
Exactly... if he shouted 'C U N T' randomly, and a woman was on stage at the time, would it be getting the same attention?
*my apologies, mods, I'm circumventing the swear filter as it's very relevant in this context.
It's not him apologising FFS, it's the bbc apologising for not subsequently bleeping or removing it.
No-one* is critical of John, it's accepted that this is how coprolalia works - your brain thinks "what's the worst thing I could possibly say here" and has no control to then stop you shouting out.
It's entirely possible for the utterance to be offensive, and for John to be blameless for uttering it. I think the n word is offensive, as is the c word if yelled out in a situation like the baftas. Yes, as some will say a black person calling another the n word - is that still offensive. Very much a different thing.
* yes, there are some that have said it must be some kind of inbuilt racism to have 'chosen' that word - i totally disagree, there is no choice. And if you asked a non-tourettes person in that situation, watching two black actors present an award, what the most offensive thing you could shout out is - i reckon that or similar would be top of the poll. I'll admit, if you asked me it would probably be that too, and knowing what might be hugely offensive doesn't then make me a racist just for knowing the word. I hope, at least.
The use of 'du jour' in thread titles!
The use of 'du jour' in thread titles!
Hmmm. Doesn't bother me. But when some oaf puts the word "Current " in front of it then......
Under achievers......may be stop blaming everyone and everything else and take a look in the mirror.
The after taste from a free bag of beef hula hoops that serves as a reminder that just because someone offers you a free bag of beef hula hoops you shouldn't accept them. Because you don't particularly like beef hula hoops.
It's not him apologising FFS, it's the bbc apologising for not subsequently bleeping or removing it.
That's as may be, but what's being reported is how "offended" everyone is.
Personally I'm offended that I have to share oxygen with these ****ing idiots.
The use of 'du jour' in thread titles!
Heh. One time I was in a restaurant and they had "Soup Du Jour" on the menu. Once I'd wiped it off I asked the waitress what the soup du jour was. She leaned over and in a conspiratorial whisper replied "it's 'soup of the day,' sir."
The misery of my first proper "core class" in the gym this morning. I am cross that as a rufty-tufty mountain biker who rides a lot an goes to the gym 2 or 3 times a week, my entire core has the strength and mobility of a poorly set jelly. This is despite the fact that there is barely any core exercises in the other stuff I do in the gym. Like that should matter 😉
Also everyone in the class was way better than me. Lightly perspiring while I was left a sweaty mess face down on the mat, wondering how I was going to get back up without adult help or a hoist.
Can't decide what's going to make me more DC later- the DOMS that are going to be epic or the fact that tonights circuits will surely have some blooming planks thrown in for the first time ever.
I just read a complaint about corporate buzzword bollocks catchphrases including "reach out" and "touch base" and now I have a Depeche Mode earworm.
When I press the Windows and M keys together on my laptop everything minimises except my Outlook. It's rather irksome.
When I press the Windows and M keys together on my laptop everything minimises except my Outlook. It's rather irksome.
Try Windows + D instead. That's the shortcut for "show desktop" so minimises everything.
Likewise the toaster
Oh man. Had that this morning. Ours is a vintage Dualit, manual plunger and the timer is a clicker dial. Most modern ones you at least tend not to be able to plunge it if it's off at the wall.
Set it running while I made my artisan coffee, came to do my toast in a well timed procedure honed through years of repetition, and pulled out cold bread!
I was mortified. The other half had obviously been in there with an implement to remove a generous slice from the silly narrow slots.
I'll forgive her. Some day.
Edit: I wonder how many people have just tried the Windows D. I know I have 🤣
Bananas . No problem with actual bananas, I like bananas . When I go to the shop to buy a banana, every single one is green not a ripe banana in sight.
Ok so I will buy some and ripen them at home and it seems to go like this
Day 1 - still green
Day 2 - still green
Day 3 - still green
Day 4 - still green
Day 5 - totally brown
When did the ripe and ready to eat window of a banana become 10 minutes
Trying to peel ginger. 😡
*Buys jar of lazy ginger
From the start of 2026, my plan was not to work Fridays, I am my own boss so this should not be a difficult plan to implement. So far I've worked every Friday. And tomorrow I want to ride my new bike that's been sat in the big shed for six weeks as it's really started to dry out this week. Except today it's trouted it down the whole day, so probably another day on the HT.
Actually I'm not DC, I'm just desperately in need of a beer.
Peel ginger with a teaspoon - it's dead easy otherwise I couldn't do it.
Even easier still - don't bother peeling the ginger, just use it with the peel on
Peel ginger with a teaspoon - it's dead easy otherwise I couldn't do it.
How do you peel it with a spoon out of interest?
Can't post links but YouTube has several vids
Had a refund for a faulty item, they paid by cheque. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Paid in the cheque, you can't go to a branch any more, you have to use the app. If you do go to a branch they talk to you like you're simple and use the app for you.
I've just had notification that they couldn't process the cheque. By letter. In the post. I should probably be grateful that they didn't try to fax me.
The 6 things I ordered that I have no rush for all arrived early and the one thing I ordered that I wanted in a hurry that was to arrive today has fallen into the void.
There was another thing I wanted to add to the thread but I've forgotten it and that's making me disproportionately cross.
People noises. Wife and kids all clean their teeth while they're wandering round doing other 5hit. I bloody hate the waaa waaaa sound of a electric toothbrush being used. I do suffer with misophonia. It's like ick to the power of 100.
Noisy eaters too. Argh. Take that apple and walk FAR AWAY from me!
Once a girl at work was eating popcorn with her mouth open. I think at one point she looked at me and did it on purpose (everyone knows I'm a bit weird). I swear she did it on purpose. Many times I've walked out of the office and done a couple of laps.
Oh, also laminators. And people who love to laminate everything, every 5hite document or flyer that gets emailed round "ooh I'll laminate that!". No. Don't. Please.
Oh, also laminators. And people who love to laminate everything, every 5hite document or flyer that gets emailed round "ooh I'll laminate that!". No. Don't. Please.
Laminates in escape rooms.
Yes yes, durability, I know. But finding a laminate in an ancient Mayan tomb isn't exactly immersive.
Hmm, I quite like my plywood laminated if I'm honest.
But finding a laminate in an ancient Mayan tomb isn't exactly immersive.
I mean, the ancient Mayan tomb is in a unit on an industrial estate in Chorley and is owned by a fella called Kevin, but I can see why laminated instructions would kill the illusion.
People noises. Wife and kids all clean their teeth while they're wandering round doing other 5hit. I bloody hate the waaa waaaa sound of a electric toothbrush being used. I do suffer with misophonia. It's like ick to the power of 100.
Noisy eaters too. Argh. Take that apple and walk FAR AWAY from me!
Once a girl at work was eating popcorn with her mouth open. I think at one point she looked at me and did it on purpose (everyone knows I'm a bit weird). I swear she did it on purpose. Many times I've walked out of the office and done a couple of laps.
Oh, also laminators. And people who love to laminate everything, every 5hite document or flyer that gets emailed round "ooh I'll laminate that!". No. Don't. Please.
That would rule me up! Do your bathroom stuff in the bloody bathroom... That's what it's there for!
All the motorcycles I saw on the road today.
Where you all been for the last 4 months huh?
Part timers 🙄
The power on/off status indicator light for my laptop is built into the power button. I cannot see the light when I'm pressing the button which makes it difficult to judge how long I have to hold the button when restarting, taking it out of sleep mode etc
Control panel / settings / power. Or something like that. The power button behaviour is software.
My shutdown sequence is Win-X, U, S (shutdown) or Win-X, U, R (restart). If I have to hold the power button then it's because it's crashed beyond simple recovery.
My Pure Evoke Spot kitchen radio.
Pressing the volume button turns it on. When it's on, quick pressing the volume button puts it into 'standby' mode. Long pressing the volume button turns it off.
The amount of times I walk into the kitchen, press the button, start going off to live my kitchen life, and instead of turning on, the radio has gone into standby where you have no sound but the volume button led light pulses on and off.
Firstly, what is the point in a standby mode? Going from it being off to on when it's proper off and when it's in standby is no different as far as I can tell.
Why would I want an off radio to go into a not on mode when I tap the button?
Why on earth can I not for the life of me figure out the correct way to press the button so that it's on/on, not off/on?
Why in the name of god can't you disable this pointless feature? 😔
I'm with you on this. I'm all for the progress of technology but man alive I miss power switches. We've reached a point in evolution where I sometimes need to reboot my car, and can't.
Remember when PC power buttons actually severed the live and neutral mains feed? Halcyon days. And almost no-one died, probably.
I tend to leave the office at 4pm to catch the "once an hour" train home.
3.50 is not the time to ring me to get me to remember what I did on a case back in January. Especially when you come out with " Oh yes, I can see you left a detailed note..." a couple of minutes in.
On the subject of which, I'm adding when the 16.17 train is still in the station at 16.27
@MCTD
Just tell them its all in EF and disappear while they check...
Teabags that are in pairs when you buy them, but don't separate easily, so you have to carefully pull each pair apart and still risk ripping one of the bags.
FFS.
The fact that some idiot in an office can disable features inthe Microsoft environment we are forced to try to make coexist with iPads.
If I go bottom left find the power icon and click on it, nothing, as the power function has been disabled, cntrl-alt-delete to get the blue screen click on lock so I can close the laptop to move to another room because we are short of rooms and everything shuts down because, this function has been disabled, accidentally delete a folder go to undelete it and ....
Want to transcribe a meeting on Teams or even have subtitles for the deaf member of staff nope.
The list goes on and on.
My first DAB was a pure evoke and then bought an evoke 3 as the sound was really good , however why does a John Lewis one or a £30 Sony one find so many stations the Pure ones say station off air ?
The Honda dealership who won't MOT my Royal Enfield.
#everydayprejudice
Working from home when there's tradesmen in the house. With radios.
Now I understand why MrsMC has been so ****ing grumpy all week.
people calling LLMs AI. tbey are not intelligent. they have no ability to extrapolate or intuit. they are not intelligent and would fail the Turing test
people calling LLMs AI. tbey are not intelligent. they have no ability to extrapolate or intuit. they are not intelligent and would fail the Turing test
people calling LLMs AI. tbey are not intelligent. they have no ability to extrapolate or intuit. they are not intelligent and would fail the Turing test
I'd argue that taking the tired "stochastic parrot" approach to LLMs is an equally shallow view. How do you think your brain works other than by probabilistically picking the next most likely word as it comes along?
They don't have human-like intuition but are already more than capable of extrapolating. A big problem is that even the world experts in the field are still guessing when it comes to building them.
An interesting book which provides a bit more background, though arguably already getting out of date:
people calling LLMs AI. tbey are not intelligent. they have no ability to extrapolate or intuit. they are not intelligent and would fail the Turing test
Some have passed. https://www.popsci.com/technology/chatgpt-turing-test/ . Admittedly not the pure foundation model, there were meta prompts to make the models sound more human.
I agree that they aren't intelligent in how most people think of intelligence. But as Flaperon says, human use of language is based on learnt patterns that we recreate by picking next likely words to convey the intent.
I'd argue that taking the tired "stochastic parrot" approach to LLMs is an equally shallow view. How do you think your brain works other than by probabilistically picking the next most likely word as it comes along?
Well that's easy for you to aardvark.
Textbooks. At least ones whose numbering system goes 4.8, 4.9, 4.10, 4.11 and so on. And as an extension of that, lecturers who say 'four point twelve'. Do better.
In a similar vein, people that say "Twenty-O-Eight" instead of Two Thousand and Eight. Even worse when it's the presenter on University Challenge!
Golferers constantly having to practise their frikkin swing everywhere in public.
Got this fella at work who spends lunchtime whacking a soft ball or a nothing at all, swinging his golf bat in the workshop.
The repetitive thwack of the club off his silly little piece of fake grass is putting me off my cheese and pickle sandwich.
He probably wants people to ask him about his golf game. Not me. No way. I'm busy complaining about it on the internet!
Might bring my bike in and practise my shredding the gnar around the workbenches 🤔
In a similar vein, people that say "Twenty-O-Eight" instead of Two Thousand and Eight. Even worse when it's the presenter on University Challenge!
They did things differently back in the Noughties.
(sorry)
as an extension of that, lecturers who say 'four point twelve'. Do better.
I find this one particularly egregious because it's just flat out wrong.
My old Maths teacher would be fuming. He had a real thing about lazy errors like not specifying units. I can hear him now, "Twelve? That's not an answer! Twelve what, elephants?" Four point twelve would certainly have made him turn an uncomfortable colour.
20 year old sons, three mates, and their preparation for a bothy and hill jaunt to the Cairngorms at 11:30pm at night in a crowded house with two other residents up early for work in the morning.
(Too specific?)
Market traders who can't even be bothered to copy the words off their produce. Exhibit A:-
Note that Yudkowsky fella wrote the fanfiction; Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality which in turn is partially the reason and should take some responsible for; the murder and other violent crimes committed by the Zizians. So we probably shouldn't promote his works here, who know's what'll happen.
Used to work with a bloke who did the golf swing thing with imaginary bat and ball. Most ridiculous bit was the hand to the forehead to shield the eyes from the imaginary sun to watch the flight and lay of the imaginary ball. ****!!!
Car insurance renewal. It's 24 days until renewal date (end of month) and because I have 3 cars on a multicar currently, loading up details and getting quotes isn't a trivial effort with all the questions they ask now.
It's not something I want to spend an evening on, and I'm away next weekend so I thought I'd sort it this weekend, nice and early rather than leave to 10 days before, just like MSE advise, and I've spent the best part of 3 hours on various sites getting quotes, and waiting for my current insurer to open to get their renewal.
And they won't give me one because their system autogenerates at 17-20 days before. Mid of next week.
So do I take the best quotes I have in hand now, saving 300 quid across the 3 policies (mainly, two young drivers both a year older and a year more without claims) or trust the call centre that say that if I wait then their renewal will possible be similar but if not then call them and they will try to match it. But by waiting until 2 weekends time when I have chance again to spend time on this will I get the same quotes from elsewhere?
First world problem I know, the Disproportionately Cross is because surely someone has the ability to just press a button and generate a quote. I suspect that making you wait is to avoid the MSE advice that the sweet spot is about 24-28 days before and makes me feel it's a bit of an underhand tactic. And with myself for getting so annoyed by it, I'm probably going to change now just out of spite.
@theotherjonv has made me proportionately ashamed that I know I'm not going to be arsed with shopping around and our multicar policy will roll over unchallenged in April
Try discussing perfectly sensible rifle calibres with an American. We use the .303 calibre rifle, (the "three oh three" as it's been called for eternity) they call it a "three ought three" ,
We use the 30-06 (thirty oh six) but they have to confuse everybody, including themselves by calling at a "Thirty ought six"
Next we have the perfectly adequately named .22lr (the two-two long rifle) and they get all lazy and simply call it a "twenty two".
In a similar vein, people that say "Twenty-O-Eight" instead of Two Thousand and Eight.
Bluetooth.
More specifically, the auto connect feature.
More specifically, the complete lack of an option for it NOT to auto connect to certain devices.
I've got Bluetooth headphones I sometimes use to play stuff through my phone at work. I also sometimes Bluetooth to the main workshop radio. I sometimes Bluetooth to my partner's car, sometimes to my van, sometimes to the kitchen radio.
Sometimes I'll be listening to something on a Bluetooth speaker and my partner pulls up in her car, suddenly my phone has connected to her car Bluetooth.
The other day I was trying to listen to something at work, trying to connect to my headphones. It kept connecting to the main workshop radio. I tried turning on the Bluetooth and lightning fast tapping headphones to outrun it, but no, straight to the workshop radio. I just could not get it to connect to the one of the two devices I'm paired with that I wanted it to.
Sure, I can 'forget' the workshop radio. I can 'forget' my partner's car, but why oh why can't I simply have an option not to auto connect to particular devices? It's such a simple request. Maybe I'm missing it? Can't see the option anywhere (Android)
It means every time I actually do want to use other devices I have to go through the whole pairing thing again.
Does me nut.
My Beats Pro do that. Get on the turbo and they connect to Mac Zwift runs on automatically. Change it to phone. Get on turbo, it's switched back to Mac. Change to phone, start Spotify. Content starts playing and.... then we're back to the Mac. Some days it's perfect, others it's a calculated attempt to make the turbo experience even worse!
On my DC list this week are DPD. It's not the failing to deliver, it's not even the random pictures of some roadside shrubbery attempting to evident a delivery attempt, it's the breezy "Sorry our driver missed you" notification suggesting that somehow you are to blame. He didn't miss me, he didn't see me and he definitely never drove down the road. I don't blame the drivers, it's a cr@ppy job for sure but the non apology apology makes me a bit DC.
Also the redelivery that pings you a "will be between 0700 and 2200" that arrives at midday. It's only coming from Gloucester. That's 10 miles away. Surely you can do better than that. But I know their ways now, that just means another "sorry our driver missed you" at around 8pm. I'm giving them one more go then finding an alternative. Never thought I'd think "Hmm Yodel, excellent.
Yeah, DPD are infuriating. I sent the following email to a vendor (I'd had stuff sent to a post office because they kept failing to deliver thing to my house):
Yes, something weird happened with the delivery. DPD emailed to say it had arrived but the post office said no and DPD later confirmed that in online chat. Next I heard, it was on its way back to you (incidentally that or something like it has happened several times with DPD - they're my least favoured courier).
It was widely reported to be very windy last night, not just on the weather but actually on the news
Our waste lorry doesn't come round till 9-10am
Wheelie bins are not know for their stability.......
I think you can guess where this is going. My neighbourhood is literally covered in rubbish because people HAVE to 'put the bins out' at 3.30pm the day before collection
Drivers attempting 3 point turns everywhere and anywhere. These are often more than a 3 pointer. I am seeing these nearly everyday now. The driver stops then starts the manoeuvre wherever they please, at a junction, in front of our fast moving tandem, on tight lanes, on busy roads, with no thought or care for other road users. The last one I saw was performed at a busy junction (I was trying to cross the road), the driver blocked access to roads coming in and out, also he came up onto the pavement where I was waiting to cross, a complete to$$er.