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Pictonroad . I Completely agree!


 
Posted : 12/02/2020 12:26 am
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You warm the earth and the water cycle runs faster.

ie More water moves more quickly in that never ending cycle from ocean to clouds to rain to rivers and back to the ocean.

It ain’t rocket science guys.


 
Posted : 12/02/2020 12:31 am
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Gwaelod - adding energy to a balanced dynamic system results in heightened fluctuations and eventually chaos. Innit? Small changes cause big effects.

Small changes like, maybe releasing millions of years worth of naturally sequestered carbon back into the atmosphere over a period of a couple of hundred years.

That might mess up a balanced equilibrium.


 
Posted : 12/02/2020 8:55 am
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You warm the earth and the water cycle runs faster.

ie More water moves more quickly in that never ending cycle from ocean to clouds to rain to rivers and back to the ocean.

Well that's the theory. In practice the 1C of warming since the 19th century hasn,t shown any apparent trend in England and Wales rainfall.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadukp/data/monthly/HadEWP_monthly_qc.txt


 
Posted : 12/02/2020 9:55 am
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well the climate change modelling predicts wetter warmer winters and drier summers.


 
Posted : 12/02/2020 10:00 am
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Didn’t post this on Sunday but having had the tree surgeon round we’ve found it’s going to be an expensive job!! I’m not sure it was the severity of the storm as much as it was the shallowness of the roots on the tree, either way we’re sorted for firewood for the next 10 years!


 
Posted : 12/02/2020 10:02 am
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It's hard to tell from that chart. To me it looks like there's been much fewer very dry years since 1970. It needs a line ovelay.


 
Posted : 12/02/2020 10:05 am
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What happens smoothed out over the course of a whole year across the whole of the UK is irrelevant to this thread. Just ignore the ignoramus.


 
Posted : 12/02/2020 10:34 am
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Well that’s the theory. In practice the 1C of warming since the 19th century hasn,t shown any apparent trend in England and Wales rainfall.

by choosing to focus on Annual Rainfall you are missing the marked shift in trends - winter rainfall increasing and summer rainfall reducing. By looking at the figures for the year this signal gets hidden.

Again https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/joc.6213 discusses this

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The increasing winter rainfall has been offset by a slightly smaller reduction in summer rainfall, although a run of recent wet summers from 2007 to 2012 demonstrates that these trends are very sensitive to the choice of start and end dates, and summer rainfall trends in the 18th and early 19th Century are also subject to some uncertainty and possibly over estimated (Murphy et al., 2019). Spring/autumn rainfall have each remained fairly steady with only a slight increase/decrease, respectively.


 
Posted : 12/02/2020 12:42 pm
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In practice the 1C of warming since the 19th century hasn,t shown any apparent trend in England and Wales rainfall.

Well, there's you, with a graph off the internet; and loads of scientists who spend their careers researching it. I wonder whose opinion is worth more? Hmm, tough one that.

As has been said - the average totals don't tell the whole story. If it rained a bit every day in a year, that'd be a remarkable year, probably pretty bad for food production the annual average could be the same as a typical year, and also the same as one with a drought summer and torrential rain and storms all winter which would be even more disastrous for food production.

Climate scientists have been telling us for years that warming global temperatures would lead to more extremes of weather, specifically mentioning drought summers and flooding in winter. And here we are, experiencing lots of flooding in recent years, and yet somehow armchair experts are STILL arguing about it.


 
Posted : 12/02/2020 10:47 pm
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I meant to post this here, not the other thread…

https://twitter.com/johncurtinEA/status/1231851017937047554?s=20


 
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