Shib, answer my question. I'll have a proper debate with you if that's what you want.
[i]It's a good job I don't judge all tattooed people on the basis of iolo's shortcomings as a human being.[/i]
I'm just hoping the tattoo'd don't use you as a basis for judging the rest of us that don't have them...
I only suggested videoing the bodily harm. It's the tattooing I would do.
I'm a bloody awful artist.
I stand by beating Katie Hopkins.Vile excuse for a human being. It's not hitting her for being a woman. It's hitting her for the evil crap that comes out of her mouth while trying to keep her moral values. Those values that were shown in the press having sex with a married man in the park.
Shib, answer my question. I'll have a proper debate with you if that's what you want.
You just called me a bell-end, why would I debate with a semi-literate, intellectually compromised little chav*.
*In my experience.
Malvern Rider - Member
punching is still feeding. As is this, gaaaah do we EVER learn?
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iolo - Member
It's hitting her for the evil crap that comes out of her mouth while trying to keep her moral values.
Thank you for clarifying why you think it's acceptable to break the law in such a cowardly fashion.
I've got a tattoo. I don't care.
molgrips - Member
Stop feeding the troll! He is only trying to wind you up for sport.
molgrips - Member
Shib, answer my question. I'll have a proper debate with you if that's what you want
Listen to yourself, man!
You just called me a bell-end, why would I debate with a semi-literate, intellectually compromised little chav*.
If you're so much cleverer than me you'll win, won't you? And we'll all know how great you are.
Personal insults and implied threats of violence? Folk have taken an enforced sabbatical for much less.
Just sayin' like...
And we'll all know how great you are
He's the new messiah mol.
Oh hail thee Shibboleth. We worship thee. You are the almighty being. Please accept our first borns.
So, you don't feel up to the task of engaging me in debate on a subject that I have perfectly justifiable opinions on, so you resort to thinly veiled threats of violence and a gang bullying mentality?
My views on the tattooed classes is dipping even lower. Who'd have thought that was possible...
[i]Do you really honestly think that every tattoed person's motivation is the same?[/i]
Moley....he's given half a dozen different motivations for a person having a tattoo. So the answer is 'No'.
Please make it stop.
iolo I would recommend you step away now, you have said on here that you have had a condition and seeing shibs other stuff on here then he would take great delight in winding you up.
I don't get why the Mods haven't banned Shib,
I don't get it either. Who's in charge here?
Possibly because I've justified my opinions in a thorough fashion?
Nope, pretty sure that's not it.
Iolo on the other hand has suggested causing me grievous bodily harm
I think you'll find he's just expressing opinion.
So, you don't feel up to the task of engaging me in debate on a subject that I have perfectly justifiable opinions on, so you resort to thinly veiled threats of violence and a gang bullying mentality?
I haven't threatened you. I'd like a debate though.
molgrips - what are you doing? Just ignore the Troll and it will go away.
A mass.....
Oh well, it's getting locked anyway 🙂
Why would Shib be banned? Cos he's come up with a few undiplomatic opinions written in a calm and reasoned manner?
Do people really only come on here to agree with people or read only opinions they agree with? Seriously, the best threads are the ones that get the blood pressure rising.
Why would Shib be banned? Cos he's come up with a few undiplomatic opinions written in a calm and reasoned manner?
There we go, another of the silent majority with the balls to stick his head above the parapet... 😉
molgrips - MemberI haven't threatened you. I'd like a debate though.
You called me a bell-end. Why would I debate with someone that a) called me a bell-end, and b) will probably get a ban so won't be around to see a debate through to the end.
More seriously,
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I'm getting really bored of this now. Shibboleth, no-one's going to be providing "interesting counter-aguments to the points you raised" because the points you've raised are such complete shit, posted purely to inflame and invoke a reaction.
You're doing the forum equivalent of standing in the middle of a pub going "you're all bastards, who wants a fight" just for the pleasure of, I don't even know, seeing someone else getting sent down when you get a glassing, or something.
You've enough warnings under your belt, mostly for exactly this sort of behaviour, to readily justify a lifetime ban. I'm a hair's breadth from doing exactly that, so for the last time ever, stop trolling of find another forum to be antisocial on.
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*applauds Cougar*
Why would Shib be banned? Cos he's come up with a few undiplomatic opinions written in a calm and reasoned manner?
He can express all the opinions he likes, you've missed the point.
Nice 8)
I don't have a tattoo and they don't bother me.
I do think it's ridiculous to make a snap judgement based on if someone does or doesn't have one.
Well done Lifer, just what the thread needed at this point 😉
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I think what's needed is a tattoo related poll on the front page...
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[i]I don't have a tattoo and they don't bother me.
I do think it's ridiculous to make a snap judgement based on if someone does or doesn't have one.[/i]
Everyone makes snap judgements about people's appearance every second of every day.
Everyone makes snap judgements about people's appearance every second of every day.
Thankfully, most people have the social skills to keep those judgements to themselves.
I think Shibboleth's arguments were actually quite weak as they were just based on his anecdotal observations from his possibly narrow mind rather than in reality or social science.
Everyone makes snap judgements about people's appearance every second of every day.
So what massive generalisation do you make about black folk ? 😉
You are not wrong in general - we may go oh look at the fella with the tats, the pit bull and the stella I might cross over the road and pass the hare Krishna instead but anyone who says anyone who has a tattoo or a dog or a can of beer is all the stuff shib has said is trolling or an idiot.
its not hard to work out which one shib is
Hello, I have a tattoo, that's all.
Just wanted to join in really...... 😆
Shibboleth's arguments were
[b]opinion[/b]
[i]opinion[/i]
its not hard to work out which one shib is
Perhaps not. But given that I've just asked Shib nicely to knock it off, it's probably not cricket for everyone else to use it as a free-for-all to stick the boot in instead either.
Shall I just close this, would that be best? Or is there still a remote chance that an actual conversation might break out?
(As I mentioned much earlier Pg1 I think) My mate has a stupid attention seeking Tattoo that I think he will regret later in life, my ex however has a small one somewhere discreet and I liked it. Both had/have their motivations in life and did no one any harm, Shib your attitude does do harm it's called discrimination; that is if you actually believe it. I've seen it in action and it's not nice.
Oh and how many people do you actually employ? I employ around 80 at the moment, many of them have tattoo's and are decent honest people. It's my opinion that you are the one being dishonest not to mention that all of the points you raise in a negative vein aginst tattoo'd people could also be applied to Trolls, i.e. attention seeking, narrow minded, niche dwellers etc etc. Keep going bigman you won't be missed when Cougar sinks his teeth into you.
A boring fact will probably just see this drop off the page.
Did you know, a group of cats is called a clowder?
That should do it.
[i]So what massive generalisation do you make about black folk ? [/i]
No one mentioned generalistions....although your example above is a good one. Clearly Shib is very outspoken but he at least did not generalise all tattooed folk in the same bracket, he created a number of them to cover most eventualities.
Obviously very offensive to anyone with a tattoo, but he sparked a lively thread to keep us all entertained for a while. My advice would be not to take this sort of thing too seriously and see it for what it is. (which a number did!)
[i]is there still a remote chance that an actual conversation might break out? [/i]
it's still a tattoo thread...so probably not.
Perhaps not. But given that I've just asked Shib nicely to knock it off, it's probably not cricket for everyone else to use it as a free-for-all to stick the boot in instead either.
Its was pure luck [ bad or otherwise] that I posted after that and tbh I had not read your post
Slowly backs away from thread
Or is there still a remote chance that an actual conversation might break out?
No - we all agree apart from Shib who just wants to shit-stir, and he's now gone anyway.



