[Closed] Star Wars Theories

I may have watched Star Wars many many times as a child, so I believe what Kenobi says is “ only imperial storm troopers are so precise”.

I refute your theory with Luke’s own words ‘I never heard (of sand people) hitting anything this big before”.......

Despite me dredging up those lines -I swear I am a functioning member of society and I actually have not seen Star Wars in years..

At least half a dozen rebels are shot dead by Stormtroopers in the opening scene of Star Wars: A New Hope.

At least half a dozen rebels are shot dead by Stormtroopers in the opening scene of Star Wars

Yes - Stormtroopers only struggle to hit anyone with a speaking part.

Yes – Stormtroopers only struggle to hit anyone with a speaking part.

Its funny cause its true 👍

Careful, Colin Robinson has for form for sucking the energy out of a debate 🙂

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Apart from when they shot Leia in Return of the Jedi. Plot armour is not infallible.

In A New Hope, The only time any Stormtroopers directly shot at any main characters was aboard the Death Star where they were instructed to miss to facilitate the escape of the Millennium Falcon to track it to the hidden Rebel base on Yavin. The actual dialogue explains this. “Not this ship, sister!”

And it’s Jawas.

Also, oh god I'm being dragged in, Leia got shot in A New Hope, set to stun, but still...

Speaking of set to stun - don't ever become a member of a federation starship if they give you a red uniform - dead by dawn.

Montgomery Scott wore a red shirt for 40 years. Not a scratch.

And before anyone brings up the Stormtroopers losing to the Ewoks, remember that no force in the galaxy is capable of standing up to a fully armed and operational Vietnam War allegory...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iz6lPyepArs

For a long time i've always wondered why stormtroopers wear the armour, they were soundly beaten by a bunch of rock throwing teddy bears, so what is the point in wearing it?

Same with their formation of destroyers, for a group that are meant to have conquered the galaxy, they're not very good at strategy!

It's psychological warfare, innit. The uniforms look menacing, instilling fear in the population they are suppressing.

The Empire seemed to follow the Soviet strategy of throwing men (and women) and hardware at a problem until they steamrollered it.

doomanic
Full Member
It’s psychological warfare, innit. The uniforms look menacing, instilling fear in the population they are suppressing.

The Empire seemed to follow the Soviet strategy of throwing men (and women) and hardware at a problem until they steamrollered it.

Didn't seem to stop the care bears handing them their arse!

In Rebels, the Stormtrooper armour is proof against all but the most powerful hand held blasters.

I have a tinker tailor soldier spy theory that controls mission at the start of the book is a trap for the mole..... First to turn up when it fails is the mole....Control can't accept it's Bill Haydon.

argee
For a long time i’ve always wondered why stormtroopers wear the armour, they were soundly beaten by a bunch of rock throwing teddy bears, so what is the point in wearing it?

We've covered that, see my earlier post. No amount of armour would protect them from the US's collective psychological trauma over the Vietnam War.

Stormtroopers only struggle to hit anyone with a speaking part.

The force is protecting them innit.

For a long time i’ve always wondered why stormtroopers wear the armour, they were soundly beaten by a bunch of rock throwing teddy bears, so what is the point in wearing it?

I reckon I can see armour being blaster-proof rather than tree-proof.

Is it armour even, though? Or just an uncomfortable uniform?

For a long time i’ve always wondered why stormtroopers wear the armour, they were soundly beaten by a bunch of rock throwing teddy bears, so what is the point in wearing it?

Psychological, same reason people wear 200g polystyrene bicycle hats to protect them from 2 ton cars.

don’t ever become a member of a federation starship if they give you a red uniform – dead by dawn.

Montgomery Scott wore a red shirt for 40 years. Not a scratch.

55 crew members were killed in the series. In 15 of these fatalities, the shirt color is unknown. Of the remaining 40, a total of 24 (60%) were wearing red shirts, compared to 9 in gold shirts, and 7 in blue shirts. However, over half of the crew of the starship Enterprise (239 out of 430 crew members, those in engineering, operations, or security) wore red shirts, making the redshirt casualty rate just over 10% of the redshirted crew. The comparable death rate for goldshirts was higher at 13.4%, despite the stereotype that redshirts are in the most danger (blueshirts are the safest, at 5.1%). Analysis of the numbers also shows that it is actually the redshirted security personnel who are at high risk, not their redshirted crewmates in engineering and operations.

And yet, people think you're a nerd....For shame

Also...rather than wheels and tracks, which are y'know pretty good...No, we need our troop carriers to have really long, really spindly legs...And how exactly do troops get out?

Further to the above if you have pretty good hover tech (speeder bikes, Luke’s thing from Star Wars) why not just use that instead?

Also…rather than wheels and tracks, which are y’know pretty good…No, we need our troop carriers to have really long, really spindly legs…And how exactly do troops get out?

There's a guy who has (so far) completed updated versions of ANH and ESB filling in some plot holes, gaps in the story and just straight up changing mistakes. Here's how he dealt with the troopers getting out of AT-AT's

I've watched his two versions and would say there is an improvement that kinda craps all over George Lucas's special edition "throw it at the wall and see what sticks" versions

Further to the above if you have pretty good hover tech (speeder bikes, Luke’s thing from Star Wars) why not just use that instead?

you've got all manner of spacecraft with in atmosphere capabilities. Why do you need to drop your ATATs so far from the battle so they can torturously slowly walk towards the enemy?

The ATST I can forgive. A lightly armed/armoured peacekeeping patrol vehicle, especially in jungle or desert terrain, it kind of makes sense.

Analysis of the numbers also shows that it is actually the redshirted security personnel who are at high risk, not their redshirted crewmates in engineering and operations.

Why only 3 shirt colours anyway? Surely they could've splashed out on green, black, white to give a better distinction between who does what. I guess Federation catering would wear white, and maybe Federation HR & procurement are in green so we don't see them so much, but surely security would've looked proper badass in black shirts rather than being lumped in with the knob-twiddlers and spanner-jockeys in red.

This is so geeky, but I love it.

The Stormtroopers aren't bad solders, from the Clone Troopers in the prequals until the New Order in the sequels, The Storm Troopers lose only a single battle, on Endor to the Ewoks when they were ambushed by a larger force with superior numbers, like someone else said, they were little fuzzy VC solders. Most of the time they're ambushed, take a beating, but the ambushers escape, the classic 'hit and run' guerrilla attack.

Their 'poor aim' only comes from the Leia rescue, but as Leia herself says, they were allowed to escape so they could be followed to learn the location of the Rebel Base, once they learned Leia couldn't be interrogated / tortured into giving them the information in time, she was no use to them as a prisoner and they could have killed her at any time if they wanted to.

As for the theory of it being the Sand People who attacked the Jawas and not Storm Troopers, to me it doesn't seem plausible. Their were Troopers in the area, they were looking for Droids and for a time had 'the droids they were looking for', soon after the Jawas were attacked, Luke's Aunt and Uncle were attacked because it was the next possible location of the droids.

For a long time i’ve always wondered why stormtroopers wear the armour, they were soundly beaten by a bunch of rock throwing teddy bears, so what is the point in wearing it?

With my 'Film Fan' head on, it makes them scary, at the same time they're inhuman so you can slaughter scores of them without causing the pre-teen intended audience too much phycological harm. I mean you've got to do something, it's a kids film about a intergalactic civil war with a body count in the millions if not billions and acts of genocide from both sides.

With my 'star wars fan' head on, I guess the same kind of arms race you see in real life goes on in Star Wars, in the last few decades Militaries and Police forces have pretty much stopped using 9mm cartridge weapons (pistols and sub machineguns) because body armour has become so prolific amongst Insurgents, Terrorists and Criminals they've had to either switch to more powerful weapons they'd usually only use on the Battlefield or even develop new weapons to combat body armour. It hasn't stopped 'baddies' wearing armour and better amour will likely be developed to combat the new weapons, but its mostly for looking good on screen, I mean it's useless, they can't see, it's the very worst colour for camo unless they're on Hoth etc.

Aren't stormtroopers clones of Jango fett? Perhaps he was a bad shot and this gets replicated and as quality reduces with each copy.....

As we're bringing ST in as well, strange that in both ST & SW they go to a multitude of planets and the gravity is fairly consistent.

I have a tinker tailor soldier spy theory that controls mission at the start of the book is a trap for the mole….. First to turn up when it fails is the mole….Control can’t accept it’s Bill Haydon.

Nah, Control had already gone to pieces and left by that point if memory serves. Furthermore, he's depicted as being very unsentimental, so I can't imagine he'd have been so unmanned by the traitor's identity.

Aren’t stormtroopers clones of Jango fett? Perhaps he was a bad shot and this gets replicated and as quality reduces with each copy…..

Clone Troopers, yes. Storm Troopers no.

Aren’t stormtroopers clones of Jango fett?

The original clone army was.  AFAIK as the need for troops increased Stormtroopers were 'recruited' from the various planets of the Empire - see Finn in Ep 7-9.

I reckon I can see armour being blaster-proof rather than tree-proof.

As with Medieval warfare, whereby against a knight in plate armour the most effective weapons were often those that enabled the user to bludgeon the knight rather than pierce the armour.

they go to a multitude of planets and the gravity is fairly consistent.

Its because they're all class M planets

Class M | Memory Alpha | Fandom

Also…rather than wheels and tracks, which are y’know pretty good…No, we need our troop carriers to have really long, really spindly legs…And how exactly do troops get out?

I think on the battlefield they rope down from the side, but I learnt that from watching a custom Lego AT-AT video, so I could be wrong.

Klunk
Free Member

I have a tinker tailor soldier spy theory that controls mission at the start of the book is a trap for the mole….. First to turn up when it fails is the mole….Control can’t accept it’s Bill Haydon.

I just finished this last week, so excellent timing!

It's a very good point, can't believe it didn't occur to me. Control had a pretty good idea who it was, and was still sharp enough at that point that he'd know Haydon turned up with information he couldn't have got legitimately. But the blowback was so severe that he didn't have chance to do anything with that information, and they were able to shove him out of the service without any credibility left.

I think the reason Stormtroopers have shitty aim is down to chafing. Can you imagine trying to shoot accurately whilst bits of hard plastic continuously rub up against your crotch, armpit or arse?

I love the Ewoks! There, I said it. They might be cute but they’re also clearly vicious little bastards. One of them is playing percussion throughout the Yub Nub song on Stormtrooper helmets. 15 galactic credits says the heads of the troopers are still in there.

They might be cute but they’re also clearly vicious little bastards

Who, let's not forget, were geared up to cook and presumably eat the humans and wookie that they captured in a trap.

Carnivorous predators.

troop carriers to have really long, really spindly legs…And how exactly do troops get out

I think they should squat down like a dog having a dump & the troops come out of a door at the back.

I think they should squat down like a dog having a dump & the troops come out of a door at the back.

Oh that made me laugh. I need to see this in a film now.

Stormpoopers

I think they should squat down like a dog having a dump & the troops come out of a door at the back.

If I'd made my Lemsip ten minutes ago it would now be all over the rug.

Been a while since white dog poo was a thing. 😂

The Storm Troopers lose only a single battle, on Endor to the Ewoks

Storm Trooper - cloned, trained from birth, equipped with the best and latest firepower.
Ewok - 3' high teddy bear. No equipment beyond sticks and stones, zero combat training.

Aren’t stormtroopers clones of Jango fett? Perhaps he was a bad shot and this gets replicated and as quality reduces with each copy

Need to get the right balance of muscle and speed work.