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Like its says, who voted for him!!!


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 9:59 pm
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Not me


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:00 pm
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Aye, whatever.


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:00 pm
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Check the excitement in his voice.


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:00 pm
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Middle England housewives who got bored of their Henman fantasies.


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:01 pm
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I did. Thoroughly deserved too IMO.


 
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me, and unless I was the only voter some more people must have? 😀


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:01 pm
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The housewives / masses favourite


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:01 pm
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Lots of people I suspect. Good to see Rachel Atherton made it into a highlights reel.


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:01 pm
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is it like x-factor?


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:02 pm
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If we could have been bothered we both would have!


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:02 pm
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Was it a fix? Don't be daft.


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:02 pm
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just shows you what a moronic set of ****tards the majority of the uk are.........imho ...... 😀


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:04 pm
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He was a main contender and probable winner, but McCoy and Halfpenny runners up? I can see that the general public probably won't vote for Froome, he hasn't really connected with the public the way Wiggins and Cav has, but how the hell could they get ahead of Farrah?

It was definitely a fix when they gave it to the horsey royal a few years back,


 
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Bit of a cock up cutting to him before they announced it. Good job personality doesn't actually play a part.

Even though I don't like tennis he has been in the public eye for a very long time which will always help. I actually thought Farrah would get it it.


 
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I couldn't believe Farrah was outside the top three either. I'd have thought it would have been him and Murray.


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:07 pm
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Superb. Arise Sir Andy!


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:08 pm
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They mustv'e had a 2nd trophy wherever he was tonight, just in case he won (which he did, ovbiously)
What if, at the last minute, thousands of people had voted for Mo Farrah, would they have said to Murray, 'soz mate, Mo's won it, not you'

Foregone conclusion innit.


 
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Good job personality doesn't actually play a part.

If Ryan Giggs can win it...


 
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What would possibly be gained by fixing it? I didn't vote for him but I knew he was going to win it. Despite him being quite a difficult character to like, I know plenty of people who do and who would have voted for him.


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:09 pm
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He was a deserving winner, and while I have no interest in horse riding AP Mcoy did have an incredible year. However I am surprised Farrah didn't make the top three.


 
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Wimbledon is the tennis equivalent of the tour de France, the one everyone wants to win, so a wait of 77yrs for a home winner is a big deal. Tennis is still popular in this country


 
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Limpics are finished so I suppose not so many are interested in Mo's achievements this year.


 
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I was more concerned about the apparent double trophy-how come they had the top trophy there for him ahead of the public voting-it appeared to be the genuine heavy real trophy!!
I can understand that he has a lot of supporters- along with McCoy over the likes of say Mo Farah, just seemed too staged for my liking- and I nearly voted for Halfpenny over Froome.


 
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Superb. Arise Sir Andy!

Surely not, they hate the English/The Queen.


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:14 pm
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You think an event like SPOTY wouldn't have replica trophies available for the times the winner can't be there?


 
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Well considering he was a huge odds on favorite with the bookies I don't really see why anyone is surprised by his winning.


 
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You think an event like SPOTY wouldn't have replica trophies available for the times the winner can't be there?

Careful now, Woppit will start a thread about you.


 
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just shows you what a moronic set of ****tards the majority of the uk are.........imho ......

You'll need to explain this one tony.


 
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Not very PC NW-alps-jeyer-aka-boz-2

Or very nice for that matter!

Good on Andy, well deserved in my opinion.


 
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I said it was him as soon as he was the only person not there that had bothered to appear by video link 😉


 
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I though it should have been him. We've had double gold medallists before, lots of Olympic success, but a British Wimbledon winner was pure fantasy not so long ago. Plus the story has been an epic struggle, ever since Henman we've had our hopes raised and dashed every June.

Plus Murray is not really dominant, in a sport that has has some titans ruling it.


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:21 pm
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just shows you what a moronic set of ****tards the majority of the uk are.........imho ......

You'll need to explain this one tony.

sorry.....I thought we were talking about the x factor results.... 😳


 
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...and the british public probably think that tennis is one of the few clean sports left too.

no comment.


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:22 pm
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Of more concern is how they managed to stretch it out to two and a half hours. I saw it in the schedule, had bad memories of far too many deep husky voice-overs to slow speed montages of mainly unexciting sports events and just couldn't bring myself to watch any more than the last 5 mins.

I am sure when I was a kid and used to watch it with my dad, it was only an hour long, the presenter had a proper moustache and a burtons suit, and you couldn't see past the first two rows of the audience because so many of them smoked. That's what a proper sports awards should be like.

The way they do it know, is what it would be like if the arts and humanities department were in charge of PE.


 
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Hard as it is for some of the STW masses to possibly comprehend, but I'm fairly confident that a wimbledon victory is at least as important to the general public than a tour de france win, probably more so.

In fact, other than a world cup win, I'm not sure there has been a trophy that has been so eagerly anticipated

Certainly I heard many more people talking about Murray's win than I did wiggo's or froome's


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:23 pm
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Do you think it might be better if they replaced "Personality" with "Person"?


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:26 pm
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ust shows you what a moronic set of ****tards the majority of the uk are.........imho ......

This thread?

I agree - middle English bollocks sadly becoming common on here.


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:26 pm
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Anyone else hoping he would go really cray-zee and jump in the pool ?


 
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so a wait of 77yrs for a home winner is a big deal. Tennis is still popular in this country

Not so popular that anyone can remember that a brit won wimbledon 36 years ago 🙂


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:39 pm
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Kind of different and didn't she won SPOTY?


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 10:42 pm
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Ed and Molly said it best. More viewers would have followed Wimbledon than any other 'event' or 'personality' on this year's shortlist. Murray's victory was also epic plus his character, work ethic and single-mindedness cannot be questioned. Well deserved IMO.


 
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Those rugby people are thick as shite, half of them couldn't dress themselves properly and their family's were goofing around with inane grins on their faces while filming proceedings on their mobiles.
Ohh look at me I'm on telly!
Idiots.


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 11:12 pm
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I can't believe people are questioning AM as winner: He deserved it all the way.


 
Posted : 15/12/2013 11:17 pm
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Of course he was always going to win. But... Amber Hill. Chapeau! That's all.


 
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Not so popular that anyone can remember that a brit won wimbledon 36 years ago

Didn't Jamie Murray win the doubles at Wimbledon a year or two ago...?


 
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MSP that was a quality little giggle you gave me there. Having said that tonight's programme was a little like the arts and humanities teachers were taking the pe lesson. Can't begrudge the ginger one his win and underneath all that awkwardness you have to love him. God knows where 2nd and 3rd came from though


 
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Murray deserved it, and while I only saw bits it struck me as the BBC desperately trying to stay relevant in a field they are rapidly become third class for their coverage. The fact the BBC sport homepage still has no cycling tab despite years of world class success is a case in point. And Russell Watson serenading Alex Ferguson was awful.

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Wimbledon is the tennis equivalent of the tour de France, the one everyone wants to win, so a wait of 77yrs for a home winner is a big deal. Tennis is still popular in this country

77 years for a male singles winner


 
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Of course he was always going to win. But... Amber Hill. Chapeau! That's all.

isn't she 16?


 
Posted : 16/12/2013 12:26 am
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The votes:

Andy Murray: 401,470

Leigh Halfpenny: 65,913

AP McCoy: 57,854

Mo Farah: 51,945

Sir Ben Ainslie: 48,140

Chris Froome: 37,343

Hannah Cockroft: 26,151

Christine Ohuruogu: 13,179

Justin Rose: 9,833

Ian Bell: 5,626

Total: 717,454


 
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I've zero time for andy murray or tennis at all but it's even obvious to me that andy murray should have won. I couldn't't give a toss but its clearly a big deal for most people and you can't sniff at winning Wimbledon. It's a massive achievement.


 
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Sometimes it's really hard to appreciate what winning in different sports takes, and a lot of the reasons Murray won was due to the high media profile that Tennis has and especially Wimbledon. I look up the list there and not many really stand out as having had a massive achievement, I'm assuming Ian Bell didn't pop back to talk about his year so far....


 
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and a lot of the reasons Murray won was due to the high media profile that Tennis has and especially Wimbledon.

Fail.

Why is that ?

Are you saying that Murray has received a lot of backing/coaching courtesy of the high profile of tennis and the money Wimbledon raises?

A lot of money gets pumped into loads of other players and they get relatively nowhere.

Andy's mum sent him to spain early only to learn his trade, his prowess at the game has little to do with any LTA scheme.

I think you are seriously under rating his achievements - having won the 2012 US Open and the 2013 Wimbledon - both against Novak Djokovic.


 
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What Duggan said


 
Posted : 16/12/2013 7:36 am
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Does anyone actually watch it?

What a load of crap, completely irrelevant to sports professionals. "Oh thank you for the award, it means so much to me, I have trained hard all my life and made many sacrifices, just so I can win some poxy award on the BBC"

The athletes won't give two hoots about it.


 
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Looking at the other contenders, it's hard to imagine anyone else winning when you take into account the voters.

Although I'd have thought Mo would have been second, but still a distant second.


 
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He is quite simply the best tennis player this country has ever had - on that basis alone he should win, never mind the Wimbledon success!

Highly deserved in my view - well done laddie!

Fixed? Yer having a laugh!


 
Posted : 16/12/2013 7:44 am
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"Hannah Cockroft: 26,151" One of those votes was mine. She's rock ard that lass.

Was pleased that Murray won he does deserve it. Had to support the Yorkshire girl though.


 
Posted : 16/12/2013 7:50 am
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Filming on a phone? Its on tv ffs!!


 
Posted : 16/12/2013 7:53 am
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As has been previously said the badge you win is sports [b]personality[/b]j
Having seen him being interviewed a few times I can say my dirty boxers have more personality.


 
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Having seen him being interviewed a few times I can say my dirty boxers have more personality.

maybe this is the result of a life changing experience he had as a child ?

And as wikipedia says

"Personality is the particular combination of emotional, attitudinal, and behavioral response patterns of an individual"

so it is not just being jovial when interviewed. Without his personality he probably wouldn't have won those titles, as there are a bucket load of highly talented tennis players on the circuit...


 
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As has been previously said the badge you win is sports personalityj
Having seen him being interviewed a few times I can say my dirty boxers have more personality.

If you watched the programme about 60years of the award last week it said the idea behind the title "sports personality" was it was a linguistic device to indicate that it was open to both men and women - and absolutely nothing to do with "personality". That was never in any shape or form their intention. A shame they didn't choose "Sports Performer" or "Sports Person" then we wouldn't be having this same tired old line pulled out every year.


 
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@Turnerguy, not Wimbledon but SPOTY


 
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Just looking at the back page of the metro being read by a guy opposite me on the train. Full page Adidas advert of Murray. Caption: "not bad for a guy with no personality"

🙂


 
Posted : 16/12/2013 8:45 am
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I think it was a fix, a deserved fix but then I voted for Ben.

Well done Andy, well deserved.

Now then, wheres the "personality" bit? 😆


 
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@Turnerguy, not Wimbledon but SPOTY

your point ? He obviously has a personality strong enough to win major competitions and excel at sport.

Caption: "not bad for a guy with no personality"

possibly sarcasm ?


 
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possibly sarcasm ?

[definitely sarcasm]you think?[/definitely sarcasm] 😉


 
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Does anyone actually watch it?

Look forward to it every year. 🙂 The 60th anniversary special was fantastic, highly recommend it if it's still on iPlayer.


 
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I voted for Hannah Cockroft. I thought she had the most impressive personality.

Clearly, I need to rethink my approach... 🙄


 
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Just looking at the back page of the metro being read by a guy opposite me on the train. Full page Adidas advert of Murray. Caption: "not bad for a guy with no personality"

Fair play! 🙂

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Martina Navratilova would've felt a bit daft if he hadn't won it, given she'd been set up with a podium and a trophy next to his swimming pool in the US ready for the big moment.

I must admit, I watched the last 10 minutes, so only saw the final announcement, plus some bloke from Leeds Poly caterwauling over the montage of dead folk.


 
Posted : 16/12/2013 9:19 am
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Double postie


 
Posted : 16/12/2013 9:20 am
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No commments about the Hillsborough presentation? Got very dusty round our way during that.


 
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Given he got more votes than all the other nominees put together I would imagine the Beeb were fairly confident a day or two before that the vote was going to go his way.

Enough time to set up a video link and the correct trophy I'd have thought.

Well deserved IMO


 
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@Turnerguy, not Wimbledon but SPOTY
your point ? He obviously has a personality strong enough to win major competitions and excel at sport.

My point....
He is good enough to win at the top levels, most people who win at that level in any sport have the ability and personality to win at that level. Murray is fortunate enough to do it in a sport that receives a very high level of coverage compared to a lot of sports. His win was a center piece event in the sporting calendar, the TDF is as big but the coverage is just a bike race, Rachel Atherton has dominated her sport and got 5s of coverage. Murray's win in SPOTY was significantly influenced by the media profile of his sport. Do we need pictures?


 
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Rachel Atherton has dominated her sport and got 5s of coverage.

It's a smaller sport, with fewer fans and fewer competitors. Sad but true. Fewer people care about it.

It's not about achievement in your own sport - that's what all those normal competitions are for.


 
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deserving winner, I think

the programme itself is a bit overlong now IMO


 
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It's not about achievement in your own sport - that's what all those normal competitions are for

Exactly my point.


 
Posted : 16/12/2013 10:38 am
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Amazing the number of seemingly intelligent people with no idea of the multiple definitions of the word 'personality'.

And each and every one of them seems to believe that no one has made the observation before.

I bet you're all great fun at parties.


 
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for sure he deserves it BUT I really think that, if you are not there, if should go to the next person 🙂


 
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