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touche binners 😆
Had this on Friday night. Dinner for 15. Everyone had a starter and main apart from two. The two that didn't had a couple of cocktails which no one else did. some folk had wine, some didn't. Some had a couple of beers more than the rest. Either way, it all would have been pretty much equal. I said lets just split it evenly...
However they insisted on passing the receipt around the table and everyone tallying up what they had and only contributing that. It was painful.
teeth gnashingly irritating isn't it. You're paying for a night out, not your shopping in Aldi!
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teeth gnashingly irritating isn't it. You're paying for a night out, not your shopping in Aldi!
1995
We go on our first lads holiday to benidorm.
We go to the big supermarket to stock up on booze and food
Instead of splitting the bill, the most boring fart in our group insists on going through the receipt item by item and putting each persons initials next to items they bought then tallying up each person's individual liability. 😆
A few years later I shared a flat with him and the theme continued
I'd have DEFINITELY opened his crisps the minute we'd got back to the apartment!
A few years back, in a dodgy karaoke place, with 8 couples and two single females it came to bill splitting time.
Quick look at the blli said it split evenly among the pairs , so the price was announced in the drunken moment, and one of the single females got all arsey and said she wasn't paying for the wives and girlfriends.
So we just paid up, headed to our ride home, which she tried to get into and was promptly told by the driver that she surely couldn't ride back with us as it had been paid for by all the couple's.
Her mate, our mate as well, hopped in, looked at pariah stood there and told her she had better start walking, gave the carpark attendant a hefty tip and we left.
Their friendship didn't last long, they shared an apartment together.
Not sure why you are so irked by my choices Binners!
I have known my circle of friends for a long time, and thankfully all of us trust each other well enough, that we can be honest when strapped for cash (or saving up for things) and so no one takes offence.
As for wild nights out, not sure what your definition is there. In my 20's I used to do that, but as I grew up I found that at the weekend I want to enjoy my time with my wife and children, not nursing a hangover and a depleted bank account!
ALl I did in my post was to state my experience and choice! Clearly if you are happy to subsidise the drinking/food costs of others you may well have a large collection of people happy to go out for the evening with you.
No person is out eating our out drinking Binners on a night out
Its basically his way of redistributing wealth
I do get the point being made but[s] every single time[/s] both times I eat out I will be the one whose stuff cost the least
Not sure why you are so irked by my choices Binners!
I'm not. You sound a very well ordered individual who has prioritised aspects of your life, and will not be deflected from them no matter what. All admirable character traits.
Just as an aside: do you find you enjoy the formulation of spreadsheets?
No person is out eating our out drinking Binners on a night out
You've clearly never met my mates!
You didn't come on the MNPR christmas do, did you? I had some serious competition!!! 😯
What works for me is to always try to pay a bit extra if I've had more than an equal share. Really, a social meal out with friends, it's just not worth squabbling over a couple of quid - most of us paid more than that in petrol to get there, or gave each other lifts etc. Conveniently, my wife generally has a bit less than her share and I have a bit more, so it usually works out fairly even anyway. No-one takes the piss so it works out fine (um...unless everyone else is grumbling about us behind our backs).
junkyard - you sound like a whole heap of fun to go out with, jesus! FUN POLICE
we went out sat night, close group of friends, all drink, all eat (one of the group had a sausage fest which was dearer than the rest), he also drunk pints rather than the ladies bottles/halfs
did any one moan?! No, we were out having fun, not tit for tat over a few drinks/quid, its a night out, if your struggling for cash don't go out for a meal or explain beforehand, don't sit there counting your pennies out of your moth ridden wallet 🙄
junkyard - you sound like a whole heap of fun to go out with, jesus! FUN POLICEwe went out sat night, close group of friends, all drink, all eat (one of the group had a sausage fest which was dearer than the rest), he also drunk pints rather than the ladies bottles/halfs
did any one moan?! No, we were out having fun, not tit for tat over a few drinks/quid, its a night out, if your struggling for cash don't go out for a meal or explain beforehand, don't sit there counting your pennies out of your moth ridden wallet
Wow...
I'm really pleased that all my mates are nice and genuine. I honestly never have any of the above issues.
Usually the only arguments we have have is because someone is trying to pay too much. Usually my BIL, who will have a few drinks but as he's always the first to put his hand in his pocket anyway we'll always just tell him we'll split the bill equally.
While we are kvetching about etiquette and socialising - can I add my petty peeve - couples who think only one of them has to buy a round in the pub ??
For example - out with two couples. I buy a round. One of couple A buys a round. One of couple B buys a round. They then start looking at me again.
Flatmate of mine at Uni was a bit of an binge drinker. She was always after people to go halvers on a cask of wine with her (2 litres). A mistake a person only made once.
A university friend of mine took me to one side and asked me if I'd lend him £20 so he could come out to the pub with us. "Of course! Here you go."
He waited until everyone else had bought a round then said he was tired and went home with the fresh £20 still in his pocket 🙂
Actually he might also still owe me for some drugs I might have bought him in about 1998.
He's a police firearms officer now. Seriously.
While we are kvetching about etiquette and socialising - can I add my petty peeve - couples who think only one of them has to buy a round in the pub ??For example - out with two couples. I buy a round. One of couple A buys a round. One of couple B buys a round. They then start looking at me again.
True. But then again we have long term 'spinster' friends who manage to dip under the radar completely with couples doing the buying.
While we are at it, why is it always the bloke from the relationship that does the queuing and buying the rounds? I think in our crowd it's this factor that gets the single ladies off the hook.
As a younger/poorer man I often lost out to the big drinkers but didn't really mind, one day it was pointed out that I'd had a more expensive meal than the others so I should contribute more - was miffed at that.
Once went to Brugges with a largish group and a few of us picked up the bills on our cards on differnt evenings as easiest and everyone would settle up later. One of us was an accountant and she wrote down what everyone drank so everyone could pay their right amount. I was surprised/amused but some didn't drink much so fair really.
Because you tolerate sexism in so many aspects of society ? I always buy my round, for the record, and I am 5ft tall so can barely reach the bar. Sometimes I take a wee stepladder.
So glad none of our friends are anywhere like some of the people described on here. The only problem we ever have is trying to insist on paying, rather than letting someone else pay. And we're well aware that some of our friends might not have the means to pay for stuff, so we just ask them to cook us a nice dinner or something at theirs in return. What goes around comes around, and we've never really had any issues.
While we are at it, why is it always the bloke from the relationship that does the queuing and buying the rounds? I think in our crowd it's this factor that gets the single ladies off the hook.
That is sexism and you need to call people out on it.
- you sound like a whole heap of fun to go out with, jesus! FUN POLICE
lets do dinner then. Actually sod it lets just save time - what say a tenner gift to your paypal account should cover my contribution to your fun. Have as much "fun" as you wish just dont expect me to pay for it as its your "fun"
Again every single meal my bill will be the least why should I subsidise every single meal I go to ?
Always the same ****ers trying to make it out like you are "bad" for refusing to pay for them to have fun.
Ps I need a new tyre what say we split the bill?
"Sometimes I take a wee stepladder."
Some of those urinals are really quite high.
You jest - but have you seen some of those disabled toilets ?
There seems to be a pleasant undertone to these types of thread. If you don't go with the crowd and buy rounds/split evens you are penny pinching/spreadsheet lover!
As I said above, I am happy to split with close friends, but work colleagues etc can get stuffed! The loud boorish types who drink far too much can get uppity but they are generally just moaning because they actually have to pay for what they have consumed!
I spend my money wisely, to me that means I have more money to spend on things that are really important, like my family! £50 for a night out does not equal the fun I can have with my children with £30, and then only spend £20 on my night out! That is always the way that sum goes in my head!
lets do dinner then. Actually sod it lets just save time - what say a tenner gift to your paypal account should cover my contribution to your fun. Have as much "fun" as you wish just dont expect me to pay for it as its your "fun"Again every single meal my bill will be the least why should I subsidise every single meal I go to ?
Always the same **** trying to make it out like you are "bad" for refusing to pay for them to have fun.
Are you pitching to be Social Security Minister in Leadsom's government ? The extreme right of the Conservative party would love someone with those sentiments to be in charge of reforming taxation and welfare payments.
Unless it is just your own money you are precious about ?
Again every single meal my bill will be the least why should I subsidise every single meal I go to ?
I invite you out for meal, I pay the bill.
You invite me out, you pay the bill.
I have friends because I like them and money doesn't come into it.
I'm glad I only know people here through a screen and not in real life, some proper tightwads out there.
I have a big diesel 4x4 that is used to ferry friends around, friends have smaller more efficient cars in which I am occasionally ferried. Should I charge them more? Should I charge them anything??? 🙄
A mate came round to watch the F1 yesterday, how much leccy should I charge? And should I charge for the hospitality beer an crisps that were consummed?
Where does it end?
Are you pitching to be Social Security Minister in Leadsom's government ? The extreme right of the Conservative party would love someone with those sentiments to be in charge of reforming taxation and welfare payments.Unless it is just your own money you are precious about ?
Please tell me this is irony.
Because if you can't see the difference between paying for your friend's beer, or ensuring that the poor aren't forced into homelessness and malnutrition, then...
£20 on a night out? Is it 1990 already? 😆phil40 - Member
I spend my money wisely, to me that means I have more money to spend on things that are really important, like my family! £50 for a night out does not equal the fun I can have with my children with £30, and then only spend £20 on my night out! That is always the way that sum goes in my head!
Pfft! Thats not going to go far on coke and hookers, is it? No matter how many variables you include in the spreadsheet?
I am all for splitting the bill equally, so much easier, but after a couple of experiences always keep an eye out for the guy who has ordered the cheapest and drunk only soft drinks. Why should they pay steak and lobster prices for a simple meal? Establish the rules before you order, they may be financially strapped, who am I to empty their wallet for them?
A couple we go out with are perfectly happy to split the bill, but we occasionally go to a place with a fixed price menu, so it should be straightforward? No, she without fail, will order the king prawn starter and main course which requires a supplement over the fixed menu!
Rounds of drinks? Two lads I used to drink with were consumers of bulk Guinness. They appreciated that not everybody could keep up, nor indeed wanted to, so they established a system. Always first to the bar, they would order four pints for themselves and whatever anybody else wanted. They'd knock the top off their first pint while the round was being poured, and bring their second two pints to the table with them. We mortals would be about halfway down our first pint as they were finishing their second, and they'd then get themselves another while waiting for us to finish. They would then accept a pint each from the next round and then repeat as necessary. Trying to keep up with them was suicide, as well as cripplingly expensive, and they recognised this.
Apart for the fact you wanted to have a personal dig I have no idea WTF your point isAre you pitching to be Social Security Minister in Leadsom's government ? The extreme right of the Conservative party would love someone with those sentiments to be in charge of reforming taxation and welfare payments.Unless it is just your own money you are precious about ?
Would you like to try and address the points I made or just throw out cheap insults?
some proper tightwads out there
Yes anyone who wont subsidise others eating for ever is definitely a tight wad. Anyway I asked why it was fair not if yet another some free loader could call me some more names for not subsiding their meal costs
I have a big diesel 4x4 that is used to ferry friends around, friends have smaller more efficient cars in which I am occasionally ferried. Should I charge them more? Should I charge them anything???
see that bit where sometimes you pay and sometimes they pay. In this case you always want me to pay. Its not swings and roundabouts.
Imagine you and your mate buy a bike each
Theirs was 1 k more than yours are you gonna give them half as you both ride together?
"Why should they pay steak and lobster prices for a simple meal? Establish the rules before you order, they may be financially strapped, who am I to empty their wallet for them?"
This. Real friends would be sensitive about others' possible financial situation and constraints, and would behave accordingly. We are well aware of which of our friends can or can't afford stuff, so it's all about everyone else chipping in to help friends out. What's wrong with that?
" Actually sod it lets just save time - what say a tenner gift to your paypal account should cover my contribution to your fun. Have as much "fun" as you wish just dont expect me to pay for it as its your "fun""
Are you only having a starter then?
[b]always keep an eye out for the guy who has ordered the cheapest and drunk only soft drinks. Why should they pay steak and lobster prices for a simple meal?[/[/b]
THIS
and from having this debate it just gets more unpleasant as the indulgent think I should ay for their choices
see that bit where sometimes you pay and sometimes they pay. In this case you always want me to pay. Its not swings and roundabouts.
But you're not invited, probably because you care more about money than friendship.
see that bit where sometimes you pay and sometimes they pay. In this case you always want me to pay. Its not swings and roundabouts.
But my 4x4 consumes more fuel. Surely by your reckoning they should pay me the difference.
Theirs was 1 k more than yours are you gonna give them half as you both ride together?
You're also not invited because of your odd thought process
With the earnings from your L'oreal commercials you should be getting everyones, you tightwad!
Are you saying we're not worth it?
😛
I work in aldershot, I assume £20 would go a long way Binners 🙂
One final anecdote. One job I worked on ended more or less everyday at the local 'spoons. One of the team leaders always had diet coke, and after a week or two we noticed he never bought a round. I decided I would call him on it, and suggested it was his turn. His reply was that as he was only drinking coke he didn't see why he should pay for three pints of beer at the same time. I pointed out that this was happy hour, and coke cost more per pint than beer. He still didn't get it. I pointed out that in that case he could buy his own coke and **** off. Fat ****.
A few years ago my wife and I were invited to a friends birthday meal in a sushi restaurant, one of the others there ordered the dearest items off the menu, drank lots of cocktails and then announced it would be best to split the bill, I was driving (and dropping off a few of the people there) so didn't drink, and as I don't like fish so only ordered a salad. I was a bit miffed at this so I encouraged everyone to not only split the bill but we should also pay for the birthday girls meal between us. Strangely the girl that suggested splitting the bill didn't think this was fair! What a free loading cow!
Will split the bill and buy rounds with close friends and family or if the group is small but insist on paying only for what I've ordered when I'm in a large group or with acquaintances/colleagues.
Maybe I'm tight or maybe I just like fairness and don't like being taken for a ride.
When I was younger and used to regularly drink within a group of about 8 pals, there was on guy who always dodged a round, after this I made sure he paid first.
I'm all for keeping an eye out for the non drinkers and insisting they pay less.Junkyard - lazarus
always keep an eye out for the guy who has ordered the cheapest and drunk only soft drinks. Why should they pay steak and lobster prices for a simple meal?[/
THISand from having this debate it just gets more unpleasant as the indulgent think I should ay for their choices
But if you are tally up food, you really want to be taking a look at yourself.
Anyone with a calculator our saying right you pay £18.32, you pay £21.45, you pay £13.54, needs a slap.
There is a converse if you are ordering the most expensive stuff, you should be offering to chip in more.
These should never be precise amounts though, always guestimates round numbers.
"Anyone with a calculator our saying right you pay £18.32, you pay £21.45, you pay £13.54, needs a slap."
Too right. 😆
Anyone with a calculator our saying right you pay £18.32, you pay £21.45, you pay £13.54, needs a slap
It's not that. It's obvious who's in for about a tenner and who's in for about twenty. Not difficult stuff. Just keep an eye out and make sure it's about right for all.
"Anyone with a calculator our saying right you pay £18.32, you pay £21.45, you pay £13.54, needs a slap."
You would say that. You had the Wagyu steak and half a bottle of Moet.
Are you saying we're not worth it?
The pasties are on me 😉
But you're not invited, probably because you care more about money than friendship
And now we just do even more personal digs as folk cannot argue their point without name calling
I care about fairness more than I care about paying for your meal
Thankfully I have friends who don't want to free load from me and then call me names when I disapprove
Glad you have surrounded yourself with mugs
Theirs was 1 k more than yours are you gonna give them half as you both ride together?You're also not invited because of your odd thought process
Thankfully they are not stupid either and they recognise that when they don't have a logical counter and they only have an insult left they reconsider their position rather than spout names like a teenager who has run out of wit and intellect
Why not pay for their better bike after all you are both there riding bikes. Why is it no longer fair?
I love how insulty all these fine folk get the warm bringers of joy and givers of fun when they wont be subsidised by other folk
Leaving thread it just gets insulting
But if you are tally up food, you really want to be taking a look at yourself
Don't disagree but it should be an approximation of my bill not the steak eating champagne drinking cocktail consumer