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Thanks Andrew, how did you find this?

I made an assumption that the court was in the same county as David Hall lived, the judge mentioned that a couple of times, so googled the court records for the county along with Mr Pinto's name and that came up


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 7:59 pm
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The only problem is the vid was posted in 2014 and the date those docs is 2019...


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 8:04 pm
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Ooh... serial offender or long dragged out case?


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 8:05 pm
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The only problem is the vid was posted in 2014 and the date those docs is 2019…

Wow, justice is slow in Broward County


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 8:06 pm
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Wow, justice is slow in Broward County

Must have been another couple of sovereign citizens in front of him taking up all the time.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 8:37 pm
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I’m inclined to think the dog enjoys it

Yeah but I guarantee they don’t all get to chew on a passive meaty arm before retiring back to the fireside back for doggy-cocoa. Many die or are injured from heat exhaustion, gunfire, explosives, stabbings, etc.

And the handlers aren’t always nice to them (May be graphic/upsetting for viewers)


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 8:54 pm
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So just to be clear, Arturo Pinto is innocent? That needs to appear on a bridge over the M25 someday.

LMAO


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 11:42 pm
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From both an animal rights and human rights perspective, I’m not keen on the use of animals as a weapon.

Well, next time you see some lairy jackass with an attack-dog intimidating other folks, maybe you could make that point to him in a reasonable manner. I’ll film it for the inevitable results*.
The great majority of dogs used by police are trained not to behave like that; unfortunately in America, the police can and will weaponise anything regardless of how much harm is caused to the suspect.

*I’m actually with you on that, but there are those who can and will, and some should know better.


 
Posted : 16/02/2022 11:43 pm
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Unfortunately, many people in our (and probably all country’s) criminal justice system are there because they have mental health issues, are easily manipulated, have had truly awful experiences in the past which make them behave differently under stress to “the rest of us” and/or have addiction issues caused by those factors or that accentuate those factors – or very often all of the above. The judge can only use the tools had has available to him and so the inevitable consequence for uncooperative people is likely to be custody, but actually as a society rather than constantly vying for longer sentences for every crime we could do with taking a long hard look at how the individual in the dock ended up there and how to avoid them ending up back there. Politicians aren’t interested in solving this because its not a quick win and won’t get votes.

^^This sort of sums it up for me^^

We're living in 'challenging times' and different people will respond to that in different ways. I'm probably as guilty as anyone of pointing and laughing at "nutters" who appear to be slightly off the right hand side of the political spectrum with a libertarian bee in their bonnet.

Unfortunately people don't just "go mental" one day, and there are groups out there happy to take advantage of angry, disenfranchised and unstable individuals for their own ends, with no real care for outcomes...


 
Posted : 17/02/2022 9:20 am
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Just listening to ‘the coming storm’ on radio 4 and the final epilogue programme, which covers the story of the rise of the concept of the sovereign individual.
The whole series is brilliant, and worrying in equal measure, it’s on BBC sounds as a podcast, I can’t recommend it enough.


 
Posted : 22/02/2022 12:40 pm
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