She really is as thick as mince
Oi, stop with dissing mince.
TLDR; Mordaunt.
Infographic from Beeb and Yougov showing tory members intent:
So the process is that this voting eliminates the contenders down to 2, which then goes out to vote by the membership.
In theory... top 2 in the final round then get voted on by the members. But if the second placed candidate stands down, then the members don't get a vote.
So the party members aren't READY4RISH!
Wouldn't be surprised to see badenoch and/or tugendhat now withdraw.
So the party members aren’t READY4RISH!
If that yougov is correct, they're readier for Badenoch or Truss. But what they actually want is Maggie Style Military Mordaunt.
Have you ever noticed?
Truss is only two letters different from Trump.
Makes you think.
If you mix up Truss with Trump to get Trusp... that's an acronym for Transrectal Ultrasound Biopsy of the Prostrate.
Makes you think even more.
I hope babadook withdraws.
It seems to me that the less white male you are in this competition you have to over compensate in being a complete ****
I reckon announcing the reintroduction of national service would swing it for Penny Thatcha 🙂
It seems to me that the less white male you are in this competition you have to over compensate in being a complete ****
I think you have to say anything to win the hearts of what is it 200k(?) toreths but once you've got the job you can do as you wish.
It's not Joe Public that they are self flagellating for.
DoD, I thought I saw that she was going for the creation of a new civil defence force...
"DoD, I thought I saw that she was going for the creation of a new civil defence force…"
Dad's Army?
Who- do you think - you are kidding - Mrs Mordant?
I’m still struggling to come to terms with Truss being a favourite of the right wing Brexiteers when she was a Lib Dem and then campaigned for Remain…
And I'm still struggling to come to terms with people who claim to be to the left of the Tory Party celebrating Johnson's resignation, presumably under some sort of bizarre impression that he would be replaced by a Labour politician.
Politics is a struggle sometimes.
DoD, I thought I saw that she was going for the creation of a new civil defence force…
Uniform to include brown shirts?
And I’m still struggling to come to terms with people who claim to be to the left of the Tory Party celebrating Johnson’s resignation
Our last remaining Johnson fan boy. He's not fit for office of any kind. He never was. Enough information come out after him being Mayor to see this, never mind from his time at the FCO. He should never have been made PM.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see badenoch and/or tugendhat now withdraw.
All have agreed to be in Friday's debate, so assume they want the attention and possible career progression that might come from being in this next round, at least for now (even if they have no chance of making the final two). Last minute withdrawals and "getting behind" a candidate that might put them in their cabinet still possible though.
I always find this site interesting when trying to understand a politician and their intent.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24938/penny_mordaunt/portsmouth_north/votes
matt_outandabout
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I always find this site interesting when trying to understand a politician and their intent
Only recently found this- great resource
Who- do you think – you are kidding – Mrs Mordant?
if you think old Johnson's done?
It's looking like a shoe-in for Penny Mordaunt then
Unless the MPs contrive to keep her out of the final pair
I am hoping Sunak wins. That would hopefully force labour to separate themselves from the tories by policy, rather than just some Westminster bubble celebrity contest with no substance, although I won't hold my breath.
I'm hoping Putin pushes the button and puts us all out of our misery...
This affair really needs to be conducted in a game-show / talent show format format, with Simon Cowell and Chris Tarrant asking the questions..
Is it a televised live debate? At least one will struggle with that.
Is it a televised live debate? At least one will struggle with that
Pork markets?
This affair really needs to be conducted in a game-show / talent show format format, with Simon Cowell and Chris Tarrant asking the questions..
With in depth analysis from Ant and Dec?
But if the second placed candidate stands down, then the members don’t get a vote.
Apparently they have all had to agree not to do that this time.
Bit odd to have TV debate just to allow the 200,000 Tory party members to make their decision. Not like anyone else has any choice to make.
Apparently they have all had to agree not to do that this time.
If the 'wrong' thing comes out, it's the Party that'll probably want them to step down...
It was done before thou, when BJ had to substitute a block of ice on one of them.
But the why is indeed infuriating, as the majority have no say.
Or was that an election thing 🙂
Ah no it was actually the 2019 hustings with rory Stewart,Javid,hunt,Gove,Rab.
There was no ice at that one or no Johnson.
(Ice was at the c4 climate debate)
This affair really needs to be conducted in a game-show / talent show format format, with Simon Cowell and Chris Tarrant asking the questions..
Something more like Squid Game would be better
Or old school Running Man, with the explosive collars.
If, like me, you're wondering how a right wing party like the Tories has so many minorities in (at least) it's upper ranks, who sound like, and have the world views of old white male Imperialists. Then World on Fire might be an interesting read. Ed West's sub-stack, exploring Tory diversity looks at the idea in terms of the folks hoping to become the next PM
So loads of the other candidates are coming out saying Mordaunt won't be up to the job, which given their track records, they probably know a thing or two about.
Suella Braverman underlining her unsuitability for PM by coming out in support of the Truss. Talk about not being able to read the room . . . .
Unbelievably frustrating that it's all just another bunch of vacuous one-liners, wild un-costed promises of tax cuts and culture war shite against "woke".
Nothing about climate change for example, in fact none of them bothered to attend the climate briefing. No long-term strategy of any description.
Presumably, a live debate allows the Tories to gauge the reaction of the public, before they decide who to throw under the bus?
Can't see it playing well for Truss though. What will they do then?
and culture war shite against “woke”.
Which no one - outside of a couple of newspaper editors and a handful of crazed right wing MPs even cares about. I don't think I've spoken with any one left or right who cares about it. Just seems to be a badge of "Torier than thou"
Unbelievably frustrating that it’s all just another bunch of vacuous one-liners, wild un-costed promises of tax cuts and culture war shite against “woke”.
The blue rinse brigade will flippin' love that stuff.
70% are men
44% are over 65
97% are white
55% live in London & the South
and (no idea how true but, you know)
44 per cent also agreed that censorship can help uphold moral standards
welcome to the world where moral panic is caused by the sex pistols swearing on bill grundy's afternoon chat show...
sauce:
Thing is, once they're PM, they can do what they want. They have to sell themselves to the party members first.
The Mail have got the knives out for Penny M. Is this just because they see her as a threat to Truss or that she is a longer term threat to the C*nservatives in general?
Yes, Truss is the Mail's "continuity Johnson" and Dacre wants his knighthood.
The demographics might suggest why they're not READY4RISH!
I don’t think I’ve spoken with any one left or right who cares about [woke].
Lucky you. It's definitely a thing my (fully paid up DM-reading) MIL worries about.