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Right, my youngest has decided he wants an iPad mini [if it does actually exist] for his birthday, sight unseen .... I know, I know

so tell me, apart from camping out at an Apple store like an excited teenage girl waiting for a Justin Bieber show, do they generally make stuff available for online orders/pre-orders straight away after announcing it?


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 8:24 am
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probably be a couple of weeks


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 8:46 am
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I was expecting it to be a couple of weeks before it's available but didn't really want to miss the first batch so wondered about pre-ordering etc.


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 8:48 am
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I imagine it will be available to pre-order/order after the announcement.


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 8:49 am
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I've seen a rumour that they'll be available from 2nd November. As ever, we'll know for sure tonight; keep that store page on auto-refresh....


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 8:50 am
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well the iphone 5 was available to pre-order 1 week after the launch with delivery a week after that.


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 8:51 am
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OK cheers, I'll hover over the keyboard after the announcement and see if they put them up


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 8:56 am
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I'm sure they will allow pre-order once it's announced, that's been their normal mode of operation.

If I were you I'd wait for the announcement and then make a model/cost comparison between the mini / iPad2 and iPad3. If the mini is well priced it will make sense, Apple have a juggling act as it's in direct competition with lower priced devices but demand will be very strong.


 
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If I were you I'd wait for the announcement and then make a model/cost comparison between the mini / iPad2 and iPad3. If the mini is well priced it will make sense

The conversation regarding waiting, comparing and evaluating has been had and done to death, 16 yr olds simply don't see it like I do 😀

I'll be ordering a Mini


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 9:05 am
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Get him an etch-a-sketch and tell him to sod off.


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 9:10 am
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Guessing it could be today ..........

The boy just sent me the link to make sure I was on the case 🙂

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Posted : 23/10/2012 1:46 pm
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Reckon we'll be getting new iMacs too?


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 1:57 pm
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decided he wants an iPad mini

is this not an ipod touch?


 
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I assume that Apple have re-defined the "inch"? Apparently, seven of the standard inches are too small for an iPad.


 
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😆


 
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is this not an ipod touch?

aren't they 4" or something?

he doesn't want the the maxi-pad 😀 as it's too big and he already has an iphone


 
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Posted : 23/10/2012 2:05 pm
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trying to second guess the pricing on these, £269?
A fraction more than the ipod touch 32gb.


 
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maxi pad, brilliant 😆 i hope that gets into general circulation, i bet apple didnt see that coming.


 
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Sorry - that should, of course, have been the iNch.


 
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I assume that Apple have re-defined the "inch"? Apparently, seven of the standard inches are too small for an iPad.

I'm sure Apple isn't the first to redefine the length of 7 'inches'. 😆


 
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maxi pad, brilliant i hope that gets into general circulation, i bet apple didnt see that coming.

I bet they have and won't therefore go for 'mini'


 
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i cant see em calling it a minipad either but if an STWer can come up with it im sure a comedian with a larger fan base can put it out there as well.


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 2:12 pm
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maxi pad, brillian

better than the ipod touch aimed at children then, the "i-touch kids"


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 2:21 pm
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http://live.theverge.com/apple-ipad-mini-live-blog/

Edit: 13" Macbook Retina announced.


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 6:13 pm
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decided he wants an iPad mini
is this not an ipod touch?

No.
I assume that Apple have re-defined the "inch"? Apparently, seven of the standard inches are too small for an iPad.

And as Apple have never admitted to the existence of a smaller iPad, any sizes quoted have been purely media speculation. As many smaller pads have a 7" screen, analysts and bloggers have been saying the 'iPad Mini' will be 7", while others who are a bit more savvy have said it'll be 7.85", which makes more sense, as that's close to the size of a paperback book page.
This smaller Pad makes more sense for youngsters, and it'll be a great thing to use with OS maps, using Viewranger or UK Map. I can see it being incorporated into car entertainment and navigation systems too, a dash mount with CoPilot or TomTom installed would be really nifty.


 
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Blimey, those presentations are boring


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 6:36 pm
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Boring? Have you not seen the new iMac?

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Posted : 23/10/2012 6:40 pm
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He's padding it out now 🙂


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 6:45 pm
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iPadding it out?


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 6:46 pm
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Maxi pad - have they diversified into sanitary towels?


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 6:46 pm
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Typical, 2 days after I buy a 3rd gen iPad they go and announce the 4th gen!


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 6:52 pm
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...and there you go.

The iPad mIni is announced. Jota's kid will be happy.


 
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It does look good

he is a bit excited 😀


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 6:59 pm
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• Thin and light and over 275,000 apps
• iPad mini is not a dumbed-down, tiny screen, consumption-only tablet
• 7.9-inch screen (diagonal), 1024×768 – no apps need to be rewritten; everything works unchanged
• Screen size is very important
• comes in black or white
• thin as a pencil, light as a pad of paper
• 7.2 mm thin, 0.68 lbs.


 
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Good news for my Imagination Technologies share portfolio 🙂


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 7:04 pm
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The new 27inch imac looks wonderfull.


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 7:04 pm
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I'm wanting one...

The iPad Mini, that is.


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 7:05 pm
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iMdone?


 
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What's the big deal with the connector?


 
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What's the big deal with the connector?

Guess if you have current connectors you're gonna have to buy a converter - £28?


 
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Blimey, those presentations are boring

😆 Could be worse, could be a PowerPoint presentation...


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 7:07 pm
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Typical, 2 days after I buy a 3rd gen iPad they go and announce the 4th gen!

A 6 month gap is pretty appalling. They must have at the very least been planning this one when they released the 3rd gen, knowing they were doing everyone over


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 7:08 pm
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Guess the base model will be £299 here


 
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Typical, 2 days after I buy a 3rd gen iPad they go and announce the 4th gen!

Send it back.


 
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A 6 month gap is pretty appalling. They must have at the very least been planning this one when they released the 3rd gen, knowing they were doing everyone over

And one of the reasons I don't buy Apple products anymore. All the other manufacturers do it as well, they just don't ram it down your throat quite as hard.

I like the comment about it not being a consumption only device, how many people use their tablets for things other than web, mail, games, music etc.? They're great for that but anything more creative sends me looking for a keyboard and mouse.


 
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And one of the reasons I don't buy Apple products anymore. All the other manufacturers do it as well, they just don't ram it down your throat quite as hard.

Really? This the company that basically releases one model a year for each part of their range rather than countless different, pretty much identical products that a lot of other companies do. Has the release of the new one made the old one suddenly not do what you wanted it to do and what it did yesterday? Just how technology rolls really.


 
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I like the comment about it not being a consumption only device, how many people use their tablets for things other than web, mail, games, music etc.? They're great for that but anything more creative sends me looking for a keyboard and mouse.

Me for a start: video is great, panorama pictures are great: no problem with taking the iPad out and about for pictures and videos. Just hope the mini does 1080p video. Haven't checked that yet...


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 7:23 pm
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Forgot that iPad, the new desktop iMac is boooootiful!


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 7:29 pm
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£269 confirmed

http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_ipad


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 7:29 pm
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I stupidly expected a bit cheaper more around the £200 mark only £60 more to get a normal ipad if you're not to worried about the size.


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 7:44 pm
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Does anyone know when they usually start the pre orders?
Do I need to stay up Thursday?


 
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The iMac is stunning.

Looks like when my 17" MBP is due for an upgrade I'm going 27" iMac. 🙂


 
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A 6 month gap is pretty appalling. They must have at the very least been planning this one when they released the 3rd gen, knowing they were doing everyone over

What, all of a sudden the previous version stops working now? Please, this is technological development, nobody forced anyone to buy the previous version, and, like the iPhone 5, older models are still available, but cheaper.
Any excuse to find some irrational reason to have a go at Apple. 🙄


 
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What, all of a sudden the previous version stops working now?

"Isn’t it incredible how a new thing makes the old design look instantly old?"

Phil Schiller
Apple’s senior vice-president of worldwide marketing at the launch earlier


 
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I'm not sure what the issue is. I bought an Ipad 3, it's still what it was, and I'd still buy one again as I like the additional size and it's only used at home *as opposed to on the train / bus etc so the screen size is what I want.
Mini could be good if I was on the move a lot though (I'll just get an iphone 5 now.....)


 
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Tempting, but think I'll save £70 and wait for the 32GB Nexus 7 to be released.


 
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New desktop iMac might look nice, but can't see any mention of an optical drive anywhere in the specification . . . easy to make stuff really thin if you forget to build stuff in.


 
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New desktop iMac might look nice, but can't see any mention of an optical drive anywhere in the specification . . . easy to make stuff really thin if you forget to build stuff in.

Pah! optical drives, that's old fashioned stuff that is. It's all on the cloud now. Just throw away all your DVDs (rip them first though). Just imagine what you could do with all that space.

Saying that, there's the MB Air drive that you can/have to buy. I've looked over the specs and I couldn't see one.

TBH I've not used the drive on my MBP for ages (I don't watch DVDs on it), they're almost always digital copies.

Physical storage is a thing of the past, well almost.

EDIT: External Superdrive under [url= http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MD564ZM/A/apple-usb-superdrive ]other accessories [/url] an additional £65 if you don't mind.


 
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Is it true that you can't upgrade the memory or replace the hard disk on some of the new iMacs?

It's a beautiful looking bit of kit, but really does anybody care how thin a desktop is? I'd rather have had a 'retina' display or touch screen, i.e. something new. Speccing a 5400 rpm drive is a bit of a shocker too interesting to see if their SSD cache system is better than the Momentus XT from Seagate.

I just can't get used to this idea of disposable computers though.


 
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I just can't get used to this idea of disposable computers though.

I think Apple stuff is far from disposable. There were some stats showing the iPhone was (or is) the most recycled phone: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/7874631/Apple-iPhone-3G-is-most-recycled-phone.html

Tallies with my experience, both my old 3Gs and 4 are in use by others whereas all my previous (non Apple) phones just ended up in the bin as no one wants a two year old Nokia or whatever they were.


 
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New desktop iMac might look nice, but can't see any mention of an optical drive anywhere in the specification . . . easy to make stuff really thin if you forget to build stuff in.

Hardly nessercary these days, I swapped mine out for another HD as I never burned disks to give to clients when either FTP, USB stick or Portable HD do a better job. Applications are all downloadable.


 
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New desktop iMac might look nice, but can't see any mention of an optical drive anywhere in the specification . . . easy to make stuff really thin if you forget to build stuff in.

Cloud storage and usb drives for peanuts, not to mention solid state being a gerzillion times more reliable than physical media, means this should not be a problem.

For the times where you just have to burn the pictures from your holiday to give to your nan, and you don't want to use a online service like Photobox or local Boots kiosk, then bus powered dvd drives are about £30.


 
Posted : 23/10/2012 11:35 pm
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Well the boy will get his iPad Mini OK

I had pretty much decided to treat myself to one too until I realised that it doesn't come with GPS on the WiFi only model, that's a deal breaker for me.
Seems an odd omission IMO given that part of the reason for the smaller form factor must be increased portability.


 
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Seems an odd omission IMO

The GPS functionality is on the same chipset as the 3G.
So if you go wifi only you don't get GPS.


 
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Well the boy will get his iPad Mini OK

£269 for a birthday present, that he hassled you to get and you contemplated staying up to pre-order.

Your kid is a wizard, or the next Derren Brown, and I claim my free iPad. 8)


 
Posted : 24/10/2012 7:57 am
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[i]he doesn't want the the maxi-pad as it's too big and he already has an iphone [/i]

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[i]Well the boy will get his iPad Mini OK

I had pretty much decided to treat myself to one too until I realised that it doesn't come with GPS on the WiFi only model, that's a deal breaker for me.[/i]

For a man who in a previous post was telling us how little you live on, you must be spending a years worth of spare now... 🙄


 
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I think Apple stuff is far from disposable. There were some stats showing the iPhone was (or is) the most recycled phone: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/mobile-phones/7874631/Apple-iPhone-3G-is-most-recycled-phone.html

Tallies with my experience, both my old 3Gs and 4 are in use by others whereas all my previous (non Apple) phones just ended up in the bin as no one wants a two year old Nokia or whatever they were.

Yeah, okay, or I'd rather just replace the battery or hard disk and carry on using it.

Your 'recycled' stat is proving my point in a way. It is saying is that people are chucking away one-two year old kit to buy the new ones. Also that's not true about the Nokia, read the link, a Nokia was one of the next most recycled handsets.

Not being able to upgrade the RAM is just their way of making your computer expire that little bit quicker. With 4GB of ram and an SSD, my old laptop from 2008 still feels blazing fast, and with a new battery it has better battery life than new. Apple must hate that.


 
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Well I'm buying the boy one for his birthday and for doing what was required in his exams and I thought about one for myself as I'm away all Winter in my Canaries holiday home, spending the money I saved elsewhere and accumulated as a Baby Boomer by buying up all the property cheap and renting it back to hard working families at a premium because they can't afford to get a mortgage themselves.

something like that anyway 🙄


 
Posted : 24/10/2012 8:13 am
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All the ipad 3 owners are going to be walking about with a face like they've just discovered their priest has been at the choir boys this morning.


 
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iPad 3 owner here. The only change in my demeanour is due to waiting for my 1kg of sidamao coffee beans to be delivered, then equilibrium and contentment will be achieved.


 
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[url= http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple ]this is apt[/url]


 
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Cruel but amusing take on the presentation: http://dashes.com/anil/2012/10/apple-special-event-liveblog.html


 
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this is apt

3 pages till that Oatmeal comic is posted on an Apple thread.

STW is slipping...


 
Posted : 24/10/2012 8:59 am
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Less dpi than a Kindle? Poor show


 
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Well it the oatmeal is in then it must be time for this one

All good fun really


 
Posted : 24/10/2012 9:26 am
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3 pages till that Oatmeal comic is posted on an Apple thread.

To be fair even The Oatmeal reposted it on Facebook yesterday!

Well it the oatmeal is in then it must be time for this one

"7 inch iPad? Over my dead body..."


 
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If you've just bought an iPad 3, in the last 2 weeks, return it and get a 4th gen. Although there's not am awful lot of difference. Faster processor and new connector. Can't say I find the 3 slow...


 
Posted : 24/10/2012 7:28 pm
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the bit about holding value / recycling is pretty spot on IME. I've just been reorganising the home computer setup. bought a decent spec'ed 3 yo iMac 24" for a decent wad of cash; but didn't /need/ the new model.

but in return, was able to flog my 7 year old Mac mini (the one with a 80GB HDD and G4 processor) for in excess of £100 which isn't bad I reckon - given my 4/5 yo Thinkpad was worth squat when I came to recycle it a little while back..

oh, and when time comes to flog the even older G4 PowerBook, hopeful that it will fetch at least /some/ cash 🙂


 
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I ordered 2 in the end 🙂

1 for the lad's birthday, due to arrive next week and a 3g one for me, turning up in a few weeks time.
Looks like they've already gone through the initial batch of 16GB WiFi ones.


 
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