Obvious problem drinker with a screw loose. How many times has he been nicked for pissed driving? This time 4 times over the limit! Is sticking him in prison for a couple of months a real deterrent? Does he take his stints in rehab seriously? If they're gonna try keep people out of prison, is Gazza a decent example?
I can be a bit of a pisshead, but I wouldn't even contemplate getting behind the wheel even after one pint, I'm bad enough at driving anyway!
so what do you do with Gazza?
Maybe give him some proper treatment for his mental illness? Try to help the bloke, rather than punish him?
It's been clear for years that Gazza has issues. Maybe trying to address them might save himself (and possibly others) from potential harm.
but surely his stints in rehab and with his high profile, you'd think he'd have access to all that and be getting treatment.
He'll be raving with Moaty within a year. Sad as the bloke was clearly talented, unfortunately his demons/addictions are uncontrollable (or he keeps hanging about with dickheads)
wot fred said - fella's not right in the head and he needs help
thanks for that Lanesra. Magistrates are deciding whether to lock him up (it says here), so if they do -isn't he a prime example of the types the government are gonna be trying NOT to lock up? Is it cheaper to give someone proper help than to bang 'em up?
That's ok Kevevs, how are you?
He does seem to make a habit of doing some daft things.
Rehab will help him sober up in the short term, but when he goes back out into the real world part of his treatment for his problems will require him to take some responsibility for the treatment as well and I can imagine that staying off the booze will be the first thing he is advised to do.
Fred +1, the guy needs (needed) help. But what the hell it sells newspapers.
I do feel sorry for Gazza, he clearly never had the faculties to handle his successes wealth and fame, and never had the people around hin to help him. But at the end of the day if he continues drink driving he is a danger to the public, and prison has to be a serious option.
The problem is that I don't think that prison rehabilitates anyone (or very few) its a society wide problem about how we deal with addicts to protect the rest of us. For too long I see the justice system has concentrated on daily mail lead punishment rather than rehabilitation and rather than looking at how we are best protected.
needs help mainly from himself
I think he has to go to jail. clearly some psychiatric help is needed as well and perhpas this could be a condition of early release?
i hope he gets help. he looks like he's on borrowed time.
Trouble is TJ he's probably cat D, In which case he'd get no psychiatric help & even if he's cat C it would be a slim chance. To get any help from drugs/alcohol workers in prison he'd need to be in for long enough to do any available courses & the waiting lists for PASRO & AA are pretty long.
but he is getting help, he's been in rehab and all that, with access to all the right help ? Not like your ordinary nutter on the street. just doesn't want to help himself it seems. So if he can't help himself, should he be locked up for a bit so he doesn't kill someone? wasn't he sectioned for a bit?
essel - I think he should get the psychiatric help outside prison - perhaps he gets part of his sentence suspending on the basis he goes and gets proper help?
NO point in him clogging up the prison psych system
NO point in him clogging up the prison psych system
As much as I hate saying it, the stick has got to be part of the system, maybe he needs to see what its like, and be removed from endangering everyone else.
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He did spend some time at a 'facility' near Teeside airport that specialises in dealing with drug/alcohol/mental health issues. People I know there said he did pretty well, that was last year and since then he's turned all over the world solving major disasters with a fishing rod some chicken and a can of lager
Seems like Gazza has been punishing himself for years. Would a "stick" do any more good at this stage? Clearly he needs to be sectioned, followed by residential psychiatric intervention.
Is the world ready for a born again clean Gazza though?
msp - I did also say I think he needs to do some time.
Working the 12 steps or equivalent to kick an addiction requires a lot of self-determination as well as help from your GP/psychiatrists.
It would appear that Gazza has not yet reached his rock bottom.
Maybe he will whilst inside and it will be his wake up call?
His old mate Jimmy 'fivebellies' Gardner took a lot of stick over the years as an alleged hanger on, you should see the guy now, down to 14 stone and looking nowt like his old bloated self. Runs every day, fit as fiddle. Shame his pal hasn't been able to turn it around as well.
I do pity him, I don't think he's a bad person, just very wayward and a bit lost. Shame.
for what it's worth I think that his mental issues aren't caused by his football fame and fortune, I think the root cause probably predates this, and the pressures of fame merely exacerbated it (the actual football was probably a release).
I think he needs to be stopped from ever having another car if he can't control his drinking, and he needs help but a standard prison probably isn't the answer
perhaps. anyway, who are we to judge?
EDIT: (that was to Ho-hum, but in general)