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Teeth-watering, not mouth-watering (though they're that too). The trick is to find a Tasty Lancashire or something that is so tangy it actaully makes your teeth water
But.... if you don't like cheese, then...yeah, sorry... frankly your a freak 😀
Hora - that nutritionists stuff was in the paper too. Apparently there is a 'perfect' mix of sugar, salt and saturated fats that combines to hit the reward receptors in the brain in such a way that it effectively amounts to an addiction
MaccyD's, Burger King and KFC sussed this out quite some time ago
Hora you want to be very serious about this don't give up on it that BP if it's right is not a BP you want for a young lad. Be worth getting a check up in case something else is causing it to be high.
Sorry - I think you're missing the point.
Ther are people who belive that they can shed a lot in a week, but it's not fat! Fat is waht you want to get shot-of. It's water and muscle most likely.
My scales tell me my body composition, so I know what's going on (coming off).
I've never bought butter or marg' in my life. I don't like chocolate. Fried food can better be done in the oven (chips etc), cook from frech where possible, I have 2 meals a day + maybe a banana. There's nothing amiss here.
The idea that you have to radically adjust your diet will apply only to those who need a life-change but if you're looking to only lose a few pounds, then a mild adjustment is required. If you're serious, then you'd need to get serious, something most people can't face doing (see shocked answers above!) as it's beyond their scope or abilities. Ultimately, you'll get out of this what you choose to change - nothing you don't know already.
Drac I know hence I didnt have my redwine last night, my 6 slices this morning or my afternoon choc and crisps! I'm ok- bloody hungry but I'm not going to keel over.
Putting on 9kg since Christmas of total Lard is stupid.
Robdob- come on fella. Visit your Docs and gets yours checked.
[i]Drac I know hence I didnt have my redwine last night, my 6 slices this morning or my afternoon choc and crisps! I'm ok- bloody hungry but I'm not going to keel over.[/i]
Hora, take my advice if you haven't already visit the Docs and get it checked. That said 1 BP proves nothing to have a better record it needs to be tested over a 24 hour period.
Hypertension causes and is the symptom to a lot of problems.
So... sitting down in the evening with a big plate of teeth-watering cheese and biccies and a nice glass of Shiraz is now 'wierd'?
Cheese and wine? Binners, you PONCE!
'Ooh look at me, with my nice glass of wine to have with my cheese. Lah de dah! Let's go and press some wild flowers.'
Yer Perfumed PONCE!
Ti29er - how do the scales know what is fat/bone/muscle/water etc?
genuinely interested.
Talkemada you do realise that binners is a Beaujous Socialist?
Drac- Im booked in for next Tuesday am with orders not to drink or eat anything for 12hrs before.
I might try it again tonight (being a hypochondriac I have a BP kit at home).
I'm aiming for a BMI of 24 (78kg) by the 'summer'
Was at 26.5 (88kg) which wasn't pretty, by my reckoning 25 is where my muffin top starts/ends so getting 3-4kg below that threshold would be nice. Might just concentrate on stripping fat off from that point onwards.
[i]Drac- Im booked in for next Tuesday am with orders not to drink or eat anything for 12hrs before. [/i]
Excellent.
Home ones work ok but taking your own will never be accurate as you'll put it up by worrying about it.
i love the fact that a few of you have a mental connection between eating crap and being happy - wierd.
Actually fat and sugar sensing in your mouth are hard-wired to trigger a pleasure/happy response in your head, it's all well known and documented.
I am a simply a man of sophistication and exquisite good taste
However, one occasionally slums it with the lower orders, does the tiresome 'man of the people' routine and joins the great unwashed to gorge on pasties from Greggs. It leaves me feeling dirty in a good way 😀
That's once I've pushed past Ti29er in the queue of course. Picking up his usual mountainous delivery of sausage and bean pasties. He's mad for chicken tikka slices too, that one!
Was at 26.5 (88kg) which wasn't pretty,
Well mine is currently 28.3 and I most certainly wouldnt strip off to go swimming happily like this!
Don't eat junk, fried food, never eat bread, no marg', butter, chocolate, no booze, no cake et al, simple and very effective. No eating after 5pm. No take aways (1 a month maybe).
I've never bought butter or marg' in my life. I don't like chocolate. Fried food can better be done in the oven (chips etc), cook from frech where possible, I have 2 meals a day + maybe a banana. There's nothing amiss here.
You're tapped.
The French are generally in quite decent physical shape and eat good food. There is no need to resort to this kind of oddness in order to lose a bit of weight. Particularly not at the rate of 1lb a month.
Either you have the wrong end of the stick as to what constitutes fried (ie, do you mean fried as in placed in a frying pan with some oil or butter, or deep fried?), or you eat a very odd diet and must be a complete pain in the arse at a restaurant.
TI29er - I'm actually starting to feel quite sorry for you. And worry about you in equal measure. Think of the joys your missing in life. Such as :
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Some Macain oven abomination is never going to compete with chippy chips, wrapped in bread and butter, with battered fish is it? And if you think it is, you really are weird 🙂
Jesus, thats just reminded me that ontop of the 4 cooked breakfasts I had over bank holiday I also had two portions of fish and chips* and two curry takeaways.
What the **** is going on with me? Idiot.
*Although that Chippy in Hebden Bridge is LUSH 8)
Sounds like you've started to identify with your inner Glaswegian Hora. Buckfast? 🙂
Ti29er - how do the scales know what is fat/bone/muscle/water etc?
They work by sending currents up one leg and down the other, and testing the resistivity. Possibly at certain frequencies too to get certain effects.
Notoriously unreliable btw. Skin-fold calipers are the only reliable way, and they are cheap to buy too.
[i]the 4 cooked breakfasts I had over bank holiday I also had two portions of fish and chips* and two curry takeaways[/i]
This is the thing. If you're eating like this, [u]and[/u] drinking every night of the week, you could really cut down a lot without even starting to feel like a self-denying puritan obsessive. 🙂
[i]Jesus, thats just reminded me that ontop of the 4 cooked breakfasts I had over bank holiday I also had two portions of fish and chips* and two curry takeaways[/i]
I think I see the problem.
Robdob- come on fella. Visit your Docs and gets yours checked.
seriously, was tested quite a lot recently and I'm fine. The biggest problem I have is now I've moved to an office job i'm not as active. Just signed up to the livestrong online diet/exercise tracker (and bought the iPhone app).
My neck is knackered so it's been painful getting out on the bike which doesn't help (after last peaks pootle I went on I couldn't feel my arm properly for a week!)
Where you on Supersize v's Superskinny last night hora?
Jesus, thats just reminded me that ontop of the 4 cooked breakfasts I had over bank holiday I also had two portions of fish and chips* and two curry takeaways
Thats impressive even by my standards!! Good work fella!!
Oh, btw my BMI (this'll make some people cry) is 36. :-/
Aiming for 2-3lb a week for 3 months, hopefully 2 stone before I have a big holiday in Wales at Coed-y-brenin.
Where you on Supersize v's Superskinny last night hora?
He's more generously cuddly than "supersize". 😉
Jesus, thats just reminded me that ontop of the 4 cooked breakfasts I had over bank holiday I also had two portions of fish and chips* and two curry takeaway
I'm about the same weight as you and eat primarily veg and lean meats and dont drink. Consider yourself lucky !
So I've dusted down a home Omron checker and its 142/89 and 52bpm. So better 🙂
[i]So I've dusted down a home Omron checker and its 142/89 and 52bpm. So bette[/i]
Your systolic is not good and yes better in the sense the pulse pressure is better but do a few and change arms. Do them at different times each time do both arms.
I want fish and chips for tea...It's almost subliminal
Left
136/85 - 50
129/80- 51
Right
137/81- 52
137/80- 50
Sheesh. I'll give it a rest now and do it again first thing.
See a bit better now your relaxing about the whole thing.
Yes don't over do it and even if it gets lower still see you Dr. Take a note of time and readings, take these with you. Even take your machine just to see if it's that.
well after 5 years off the bike i've managed to get myself to an impressive 105kg 17st ish? @ 5ft9" i was smack on 14 stone when i packed up biking so that's what i'm aiming for.bought myself a new bike this week and trying to eat less,curry is my fav food ever. can't remember the last time i had a drink and i quit smoking 11 days ago 🙄
i'm sat here now with a cough/chest infection and my legs are in bits.(never felt so bad)
You've piled on 9kg and the baby hasn't even arrived yet?
You are so heading down obesity avenue. I'd get some of them there Nike easytone shoes in the morning. You're going to be up half the night, pacing between fridge and larder....
You may as well sell your bike (or keep it for it's future as a 'baby throne holder'). as for 'other' exercise - you won't see that on the menu for a while.
Have you tried cigarettes - they're your only hope...................
Well done Chop, hopefully I can follow your lead. Don't eat too much while you are ill and don't exercise until better, it won't do you any good. Seems like you may be in a similar position to me. I just love the burgers!!
Ton.
You can do all this and more if you want to.
Once you banish high fat junk foods, high cream content food and get on simpler diet, you'll feel sick having full fat anything, inc' the likes of chocolate which is just plain revolting!
It's a question of getting on with it and biting the bullet & not making excuses why you need X or Y in the diet, or why you can't give up A or B; there are too many excuses out there (the French look good on a diet of cheese and bread, or pub on a Tuesday, curry night on a Friday, booze at w/ends, birthdays, holidays, after work with mates, after long rides, keeping the other 1/2 company - J'sus, the list almost endless) and that's one reason why so many fail in their feeble efforts to change.
Once you're passed the cold turkey phase you'll wonder quite what all the fuss was about and why others seem to need all that junk they think they need in their diet.
I've heard the side effect of eating such a diet and have superior taste make you a patronising cock, have you noticed that happen at all Ti29er?
Showered/ate* this morning and then:
Left Right
134/83-43 137/81-44
139/79-40
131/81-40
(Im lefthanded- hence more on the left)Jesus, the thing MUST be faulty. If its not faulty, if I lose the excess blubber I've got a right cracking little engine under the hood. 😆
Boxelder, keep up- hes been here 3 weeks already.
Congrats
😀
Ooh missed that too.
Grats Hora.
Thanks guys 😀
Ti29er, have you even read my post back on page 1? I can lose 1lb a week eating a fairly normal diet (very little chocolate, occasional "proper" desserts and just cooking low fat food / avoiding drink), whereas you're on the Gillian McKeith flavour free special to lose 1lb a month.
My point is that you can lose weight without making ridiculous changes to your diet. Most people simply do not read labels and end up eating high calorie foods without realising, rather than living on a diet of chips followed by fried breakfasts.
Come on Robdob.
Ton.
You need to lose fat, not weight per se.
You might well be able to shed some weight if, as this week's Supersize "v" Superskinny amply illustrates. If that guy cuts back to 1 bags of crips and 1/2 a cake and 10 & not 25 meat balls etc etc, he'll perhaps not put so much on or even lose some, but just consider his start-point!
When next you're in a butchers, ask to see 1lb of meat and try and equate that to 1lb of stored fat in your body & you'll see that it's a substantial amount for the body to have self-consumed in the course of 7 days. You have to be realistic and honest - something I think many dieters simple are not.
I'm not Ton by the way.
I admit it. You are right and I am wrong. I'm losing water and muscle every week rather than fat. The wattbike & weights down the gym are lying. My scales are wrong too.
I'm actually sat here typing this looking like a sultana that's been rubbed down with lurpak.
My point is that you can lose weight without making ridiculous changes to your diet
Some folk can.. it's different for everyone tbh.
Tron.
I believe the calculation is something like 3000 calories = 1lb in that if you use up 3000 calories more than you consume, you'll have to find that from stored muscle & fat.
Losing weight is not difficult. It's losing fat that is needed for long term weight loss & that's the hardest part. Especially as you age, this becomes more difficult.
Then you have to consider how this weight loss is sustainable. That's where the change of life-style becomes all-important. You can spend hours in the gym and on the bike but it's not sustainable at that level for the next 10+ years. So weight loss for weight loss sake is not the solution in the long run & should be viewed at best as a short term solution to a particular problem, but ultimately, it’s Fools' Gold.
Much of this should also be viewed as % of one’s overall size and shape. 4lbs to you in a month might have little visible impact if you’re built like Arnie, but 4lbs to me would show.
PS - Wrong form of the verb; "Sitting" is what you meant to say.