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Richest few % of the population earn £50000 pa
Closer to 10% in the UK.
Fact remains many ordinary people from all walks of life earn 50k.
Fact remains many ordinary people from all walks of life earn 50k.
My chimney sweep is VAT registered, would seem to indicate that he earns more than £50k.
Change the accent and tshirt and there’s not a lot to choose.
Aye, it's exactly the same.
The reason I raised the attitude question was because I have observed the same thing you are accusing the Scots off in Australia.
It's not that Australians dislike the English (although they do love beating them), but the unconscious assumption of superiority of some English people gets their backs right up.
An independent Scotland would be richer so that is a nonsense arguement
Just about every credible economic expert thinks otherwise so I'm afraid any nonsense (I don't like using terminology like that but I wasn't first) is to suggest otherwise.
Tj said As an English migrant to Scotland there is no divide between us and native Scots bar in the mind of a few bigots
It's interesting how often people assume that the bigotry comes from "native Scots" to use tjs term.
Truth is there are bigots in every nation and every faith. A plague on all the bigots whatever their nationality or creed.
Tomd I do think there are some significant and visible differences between the Scottish Independence movement and the current iteration of English nationalism, or call it an English Independence movement if you like.
1 Everyone living in Scotland at a time six weeks before the indy referendum had a vote, EU citizens didn't get a vote on Brexit
2 The Scottish people voted strongly for remain. That's likely to be the case for Scottish nationalists too.
3 The Scottish government has built up public support for a higher amount of immigration and immigration is generally seen in a much more positive light in Scotland.
None of this is to claim that racism doesn't exist in Scotland it does and it is shameful. Nor would I say that there is anything intrinsically wrong with English nationalism indeed I for one would welcome an independent England.
Just pondering earnings and wondering how it will work with the new immigration policy where migrants have to earn at least £25k (was going to be £30k). Sitting in a hotel just now most cleaning and waiting staff are European. Not sure what they earn but don’t think it will be over the proposed new income threshold. How are These hotels going to get staff in 2021? Do you think a lot of them will close down?
Let's await the "cost" of any trade deals and see how many are tied to freedom of movement...
This is really a Brexit issue but shows how policy formulated in Westminster can be harmful to Scotland.
Of course there are also those that will tell you there are no immigrants in Scotland so it's a non-issue.
To pretend there is no dislike of the English in general is not true.
Yet significant numbers of people from England continue to choose to become Scots by settling in Scotland, building careers here and raising families...
How do you explain this perplexing mystery?
I guess I’ve spent to much time in Hartlepool with English Nationalists. Change the accent and tshirt and there’s not a lot to choose.
Ha ha! Worth repeating this statement just to enjoy just how wrong headed it is!
How about that deadly Scottish/English conflict that we need an authoritarian union to prevent? I'm really keen to learn more about it, because despite living in Scotland for most of my life, I've completely missed out on this. Should I be worried about the English militia coming over the border in the middle of the night, if tensions increase? I'll keep an eye on my neighbours in case they are stockpiling weapons for the civil war. Wait a minute, some of my colleagues and neighbours are from England! I thought they were OK, but perhaps they are sleepers!
However, she admitted that an independent Scotland would not always be simple or straightforward.
"I have self-doubt about things every day," she said. "I would hate to be somebody who had such absolute certainty that I didn't entertain the idea that I might be wrong about things.
"So, of course I think about it. I don't believe that it will always mean plain sailing for Scotland.
"I just think it's right to be independent to have the best chance."
I hate it when politicians talk like this. I demand cast iron certainty in every statement they make with 0% chance of any plan failing.
What an amateur!
plain sailing for Scotland.
Plane not plain. HTH.
Could be either tbh https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/plain-sailing
From wiki "<b>Plane sailing</b> (also, colloquially and historically, spelled <b>plain sailing</b>) is an approximate method of navigation over small ranges of latitude and longitude."
Which is a pity because I was looking forward to complaining to the herald about their lack of sub editing
also, colloquially and historically, spelled <b>plain sailing</b>)
Which is technically incorrect.
Plane sailing is so called because it refers to a calculation that ignores the curvature of the earth and uses basic trig and not spherical trigonometry.
Ha ha! Worth repeating this statement just to enjoy just how wrong headed it is!
Both sets believe strongly in the concept of nations and that creating a new sovereign state is fundamental. They have both constructed a strong national identity by picking and choosing bits of culture and history that suit their narrative. Both sets use that to assert the primacy of their identity and try to further that.
I would say that the Scottish nationalist have better PR and nicer symbols. Just as some skinheads in England shirts doesn't represent English nationalism in its entirety, neither does the friendly fluffy immigration loving image represent Scottish Nationalism.
Scottish/English conflict that we need an authoritarian union to prevent?
I don't think anyone will be sacking York or Stirling.
I more useful comparisons would be Russia / Estonia or Russia / Latvia. It's all fun and games until the small nation's interests diverge enough from the larger ones then the meddling starts.
It’s all fun and games until the small nation’s interests diverge enough from the larger
Err, are you asleep. It's a bit more than meddling we have at the moment. That's the whole bloody point. If you're using a telescope to see what's happening in Scotland then at least use it the right way round.
I don’t think anyone will be sacking York or Stirling.
Yet you actually wrote that an authoritarian union stops us from "killing each other"...
Scottish independence is a big, complicated, messy issue that deserves a serious debate, but you keep posting melodramatic stuff like this that just looks silly.
Your explanation of how Scottish nationalism is actually just like Tommy Robinson style English "nationalism" is really funny. Could you write a bit more about that, please?
C'mon, it's really simple. It starts with "n" and ends in "ism" therefore it's the same thing.
Naturism? Nativism? natalism?
Tomd - can I ask where you live?