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As our record goalscorer and someone who is idolized by most Newcastle fans ..it pains me to say that having met  the bloke ..I found him to be a first class dick..

My uncle met him at the airport one day, slight misunderstanding about who had the most priority check in and he said Shearer was a proper gent, modest and invited him up to the NUFC lounge at to apologise. This was just after we got beat by Man U too.

All of them are miles ahead of ITV though, which is a shame as they have the Belgium game, hopefully I can sync 5live and the TV for that one.

@tails Sterling gets the chances they way Man City are playing, he isn't working in this team by the look of things so either he needs to adapt or hit the bench which is a shame, Southgate obviously sees something we all don't here but maybe he would work better as a late arrival when the opposition is tiring. The young lads could really have ripped into this lot


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 10:30 pm
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Sterling works great with Silva and De Bruyne sat behind him, feeding him gilt edged passes

Unfortunately he’s presently playing for England, so chances will be comparitavely limited. And he just doesn’t finish enough of them.

Rashford should start every game. He’s a natural finisher. Sterling is far from that.

if lingard had squared that ball across the box to Rashford rather than Sterling it would have been game over


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 10:36 pm
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It was poor defending

LOL it was poor, defending though I don't think so. Moronic yes.

but overall England were the better team

Tunisia and Saudi Arabia are the two worst teams i have seen so far in the competion so England would be better by default


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 10:37 pm
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LOL it was poor, defending though I don’t think so. Moronic yes.

Not really. His position was all wrong when he was trying to win the ball. Ultimately it was a pretty soft penalty but he didn't help himself.

Tunisia and Saudi Arabia are the two worst teams i have seen so far in the competion so England would be better by default

Your point escapes me.


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 10:44 pm
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I (due to travelling) have been listening to 5live all day big up the game, the overriding message every pundit seemed to put forward was “just let them play without the pressure the English media put upon them”

Every 3 bloody minutes, all bloody day.

So, what will be the headlines in the red tops tomorrow ? Southgate the next GOAT ??


 
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Good for the team.

They’ve done away with the strutting (and totally misplaced) confidence/arrogance of the likes of Cole, Rooney and Terry and actually seem to be giving it a go with realistic expectations and a bit of character.

They played ok and got a result.


 
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here you go

you might find them useful


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 10:47 pm
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Only really saw the first half.  Thought England's defensive players weren't that great on the ball and the attacking players should have been better in front of goal.  But they've got the three points and you don't win the world cup in the group stages, hopefully they'll get better as the tournament progresses.


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 10:47 pm
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Context is everything. In comparison to previous England group performances that was positively positive.


 
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here you go

Your comedy material is almost as good as your analysis of the match. Is there something you're better at?


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 10:51 pm
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soft


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 10:53 pm
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deli having a scan


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 10:54 pm
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would have been nice to have at least one “non partisan” pundit on tonights panel

And as a tv pundit ..boring as shit !

we need more slaven bilic, make me proper laugh out loud yesterday 😀


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 10:57 pm
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Whatever way you look at it we were the better team over 90 minutes and won 2-1, I really don't care how we play, at this level a win is a win and 3 points is 3 points, we made plenty of chances and restricted them to 1 and that was the penalty.

Come on England


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 10:58 pm
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LOL 606 gammon says FIFA conspiracy against England


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 11:17 pm
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They’ve done away with the strutting (and totally misplaced) confidence/arrogance of the likes of Cole, Rooney and Terry

Eh?

England could have done with some strutting confidence in previous competitions. Being strangled by pressure and the occasion has been the issue not the opposite.

Strange comment.


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 11:18 pm
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Tunisia and Saudi Arabia are the two worst teams i have seen so far in the competion so England would be better by default

Did you see Panama, or Nigeria? Tunisia were far from the worst so far although we dominated the game. Not perfect, not useless, we are where most people think we are and a quarter final exit would be a decent result.


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 11:41 pm
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Did you see Panama

they held the mighty belgium for 47 mins and  looked completely untroubled till a cracking goal from Mertens. They also had many more attacks than Tunisia though they never really looked like scoring


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 11:47 pm
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they held belgium til belgium woke up, they were horribly pedestrian in the first half.


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 11:49 pm
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I thought it was a competent performance against a limited opponent. We play better against sides that want to play against us, we don't have the magician who can unlock a 9 man defence. Penalty decisions for and against were harsh, we created enough to have won far more comfortably but in the end created enough to win anyway and that kind of 91st minute winner can actually be better than a routine 3-0 win

Encouraging without being overly optimistic.


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 11:55 pm
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I'll guess we'll see who's worst when they hopefully play off for 3rd place in the group. Panama did manage twice as many shots on target than Tunisia


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 11:56 pm
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Panama did manage twice as many shots on target as Tunisia

And how many did they score? Tunisia look to be a far better organized side, which is why they're so much higher in the rankings.


 
Posted : 18/06/2018 11:59 pm
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And how many did they score?

yeah the 1 shot on target the tunisians had was a penalty.


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 12:01 am
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yeah the 1 shot on target the tunisians had was a penalty.

Panama didn't even manage to win a penalty.


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 12:04 am
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plenty of time when they play england with kyle walker as our center back enforcer


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 12:07 am
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plenty of time when they play england with kyle walker as our center back enforcer

If they do, I take my hat off to them.


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 12:10 am
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plenty of time when they play england with kyle walker as our center back enforcer

True, but hard on a player out of position.

Even more harshly it should be Tripper that's dropped as Walker is a better wing back. Let's have a back 3 of 3 actual centre backs. L-r, Cahill  Stones, Maguire.


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 12:36 am
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True, but hard on a player out of position.

I guess so, clotheslining the opposition isn't frowned upon out on the wings and doesn't give away a penalty


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 12:54 am
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Nah, we'll play a similar system even if the personnel aren't the same (injuries, etc) against Panama, we'll need to be the aggressor to win that and secure the qualification.

Then against Belgium and onward in KO stages, we'll play the 3 cb system to shore up defence and play a more counter attacking style, which I think will suit us better.


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 12:56 am
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Also, depending on Germany, it might be a weird race for 2nd against Belgium to avoid them...


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 1:39 am
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Maybe we should let the next manager do it from home via texts.

Let's face it, on average this is unlikely to result in a worse overall performance


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 2:19 am
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Being positive -Bravo Harry Kane & I liked the look of Stones & Mcquire (despite the latter's couple of errant passes) .Lingard was very promising (someone buy him a barn door to practice with) ,Trippier was excellent & hopefully GS will see sense and pick Rashford over Sterling(how many times did he give the ball away?). If Ali is fit, I'd stick with him. Loftus-Cheek to come on earlier.

Someone earlier said "that ref for the final"....ha ...sounds about right for fifa.

btw,Terry butcher is on fire on five live &Chris Sutton is Alan Partridge.. 🙂


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 7:48 am
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Did someone say drop Tripper !!

He was the best player on the pitch last night.... Walker maybe faster but you'll not get an excellent cross out of him every time... and Southgate knows that... when has Walker ever taken a corner in an England shirt?

That been said, free kicks 25 yards out, where the shot is on and everyone knows it, should not be taken by Tripper or Young.... Hand the ball Kane.


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 8:14 am
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Good game between 2 evenly matched sides. The slightly better team managed to scrape through with a late late goal. Englands captain was the difference between the teams. Some questionable referring decisions.


 
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Kane getting in amoungst the goals is a positive. Great to have him scoring as he is our talisman and him being on form is pretty vital to our hopes of going a decent distance in the tournament.

However the concern remains that no one else is scoring. not converting those chances is a recurring theme for England. all were guilty really, lindegard, Sterling, even Stones missed a sitter.

I disagree with Binners on alot of what he says about Sterling, he clearly is a very very talented player, but Rashford may well deserve a chance to take the burden off Kane for scoring.

I thought Henderson had a good game, Trippier was grand too. it frustrated me immensely that Ali was clearly struggling at Southgate didnt take him off.


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 8:49 am
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Put R5 on this morning and it's all chat about poor refereeing.. again...

So dull.

Gurland won, thats all thats required innit?


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 9:08 am
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Some comedy comments on here from some who clearly have absolutely no idea of what they are talking about!

if anyone expected an easy opening game , then they are living in fantasy land. Anyway, we got over the line and are still in the game, so let’s hope for better in the next match. Cmon England!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 9:17 am
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Good game between 2 evenly matched sides. The slightly better team managed to scrape through with a late late goal.

No, one team came to frustrate and foul, England had the quality and the stats showed it. They were guilty of missing chances, and yes the ref was shocking in letting a lot go, ignored blatant time wasting that would have seen more bookings, I can imagine tunisia vs Panama will be decimated by suspensions


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 9:23 am
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on the panama side perhaps no bookings for tunisia last night!


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 9:28 am
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No, one team came to frustrate and foul

<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">Agreed, Walker should have kept his arms down and played the ball.</span>


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 9:35 am
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hopefully GS will see sense and pick Rashford over Sterling(how many times did he give the ball away?

With Ali injured, there was little movement up front for England, Sterling had little choice but to run into bodies or continually pass backwards which he would have also been slated for, Rashfords impact only came after Ali was replaced by Loftus-Cheek. IMO it was a big mistake leaving Ali on the pitch for so long, it created a lack of mobility in a vital area which made it difficult for the rest of the team to compensate for.

The basic problem with last nights performance was the lack of effort off the ball in creating options for the player on the ball. But we should remember, this is a work in progress, no one should expect brilliance from this team, we just want to see improvement and effort.


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 10:07 am
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Anyway, three more games tonight and perhaps Mo Salah will make a start against Russia in the big game of the day?


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 10:15 am
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Soft penalty, but then that's not the first time Walker's done that, I think Southgate was probably right to feel aggrieved at the refs decisions and rugby tackles

Liked the attacking style, sometimes more England players than Tunisian at the back which was encouraging, some poor finishing, shall we blame that on being distracted by midges 😀

Outplayed them even if we didn't outscore them until the death. Bring on Panama beat them, qualify and who cares about Belgium


 
Posted : 19/06/2018 10:20 am
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But we should remember, this is a work in progress, no one should expect brilliance from this team, we just want to see improvement and effort

All of which was 100% in there... they played well... i don't get what bit people are missing. This isn't Brazil in the 1970s.


 
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Agree with MSP, too big a gap between Henderson when he picks the ball up from our defensive line and the forwards with nothing in between, hence why they have to play so many sideways passes across the back. Need someone to play in front of Henderson to be the link man between him and the forwards, looking to take the ball and play forward. This is not Deli Ali's strength and thought Loftus-Cheek looked promising when he came on. Sterling needs to be dropped for sure.


 
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