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It's all that's left in the office fridge, so I've had to use it for my brew. Really, what is the point?

*EDIT - see, it's even made me use the wrong forum


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:03 pm
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Our office milk fund gets that awful orange top 1% stuff. If i wasn't lazy i'd have my own supply of blue top, but i am and i don't


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:05 pm
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Because sugar and corn syrup companies managed to work a 50 year con that fat was bad and carbs good, and still most advice has not caught up with reality.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:06 pm
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Know as canoe juice here.

Why?

Well, what's the similarity between sex in a canoe and skimmed milk?


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:10 pm
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Wot MSP says.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:10 pm
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Know as canoe juice here.

Why?

Well, what's the similarity between sex in a canoe and skimmed milk?

Comes in plastic?


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:11 pm
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An incredibly risky venture unless you have good balance and exceptional rhythm?

Personally, I like red milk in tea, it gives it a decent colour without making the taste too fatty. However, I prefer blue or, if necessary, green in covfefe because it mellows it out more.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:23 pm
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I'm really not sure how you're drinking skimmed milk to end up with a paddle stuck in your arse.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:27 pm
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Because sugar and corn syrup companies managed to work a 50 year con that fat was bad and carbs good, and still most advice has not caught up with reality.

I was discussing the relative benefits of green or blue milk yesterday. I had a feeling this was the case.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:29 pm
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red milk is lush. Takes a few days to get used to it then you'll never go back


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:39 pm
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red milk is pish.
FTFY.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:41 pm
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I don't think the low fat thing was all a conspiracy by sugar companies. I think the science was just wrong. I do think that food companies continue to milk it though.

Re skimmed milk - we used to have it when I was a kid. Tastes bad at first then you adjust and it just tastes like milk. I hated whole milk as a kid because to me it tasted like drinking pure cream. Now I drink whole though. You adjust.


 
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you are wrong

FTFY.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:43 pm
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Red milk has no milk in it, it's just white coloured water. God knows what they put in it to make it that colour though.

https://www.grahamsfamilydairy.com/our-products/gold-range/gold-top

You can get that in supermarkets but even that I'm sure has cream added back in as opposed to naturally occuring. Can you buy real milk anywhere these days like they used to make?


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:47 pm
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I was brought up on local milk from the dairy farm half a mile away, that or goats milk fresh from the udder, a neighbour brought round twice a week. The only thing creamier is that Gold top stuff.

We call skimmed milk white water in our house and ridicule whoever asks for it when offering beverages.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:49 pm
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Can't Stand the taste of milk, so skimmed is ideal for taking the edge off tea's bitterness, or moistening muesli, without spoiling the flavour. Coffee should only ever be drunk black. 🙂


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:50 pm
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I love whole milk, but unfortunately it does have a significant fat penalty, and around 60% of the fat content is saturated.

a pint of blue top is going to give you roughly 18g of fat or which 12g is saturated.

worth it though.


 
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[s]red [/s]milk is pish.

FTFY


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:57 pm
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I heard a programme on the fat vs sugar thing a while back. Something along the lines that "The phrase that fat makes you fat is about as scientifically valid as that the one who smelt it dealt it"


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 4:58 pm
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A bit of a history around how we "missed" the fact that fat isn't bad, but sugar is...

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/07/the-sugar-conspiracy-robert-lustig-john-yudkin


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:01 pm
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I love whole milk, but unfortunately it does have a significant fat penalty, and around 60% of the fat content is saturated.

But the fat content is only 4%.

I wouldn't lose any sleep.

Raw milk is where it's at. 🙂


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:08 pm
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Disgusting stuff but then I'm a full fat milk, cream and butter sort of a guy.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:09 pm
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Love skimmed milk, hate greasy full fat a insipid semi skimmed


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:10 pm
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UHT FTW!!

Makes excellent milkshakes


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:10 pm
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Like gradually cutting sugar from your tea you can do it from whole to skimmed milk if you do it one step at a time a take time to get used to it. As a child cream clots onto my Shreddies from bottles of full fat milk put me off whole milk for life.
Regardless of processed foods manufacturers deceiving consumers with low fat high sugar products which are as high in calorie if not higher, skimmed milk has a lot less calories than whole milk with no nasties added.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:12 pm
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Regardless of processed foods manufacturers deceiving consumers with low fat high sugar products which are as high in calorie if not higher, skimmed milk has a lot less calories than whole milk with no nasties added.

To be fair it is nearly water. And missing nutrients.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:13 pm
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Can you buy real milk anywhere these days like they used to make?

If you mean none homogenised milk then yes but it's not exactly made.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:20 pm
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We call skimmed milk white water in our house and ridicule whoever asks for it when offering beverages.

You sound a right roaster.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:31 pm
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I don't think the low fat thing was all a conspiracy by sugar companies

It's not a conspiracy theory, it just happened, same as the tobacco industry funded research to exonerate their culpabilities and funded massive lobbying activities. As have the motor car and petro chemical industries to distort environmental protection legislation.

While they may not advertise their activities, it's not really hidden either, it's not lizards doing funny handshakes while standing on one leg. It is just money doing the talking.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:33 pm
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This summarises my thoughts..

an't Stand the taste of milk, so skimmed is ideal for taking the edge off tea's bitterness, or moistening muesli, without spoiling the flavour. Coffee should only ever be drunk black.

Apart from its not the actual taste of milk that puts me of so much as my experience of working in a milk processing plant.

They just centrifuge out the fat then put it back as required by each batch. So I don't see any advantage to having more dairy fat than necessary.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:41 pm
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Ah but how much is necessary?


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:48 pm
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Because sugar and corn syrup companies managed to work a 50 year con that fat was bad and carbs good, and still most advice has not caught up with reality.

This. And I must admit to have fallen for the 'anti-fat' propaganda and drink skimmed milk. I've weaned myself back onto butter from toxic 'low fat spreads', maybe I should get back onto full fat milk again. After all full fat milk is only 4% fat vs. 1% fat of skimmed milk, so for the 200ml or so I have in my porridge and splash or two I have in my tea is hardly going to add up to the EU fat mountain on an annual basis.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:49 pm
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skimmed all the way, nice and clean, semi skimmed just tastes claggy and full fat even worse.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:51 pm
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In Milk 0.1%


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 5:54 pm
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All this red top / blue top business confused me for a minute... you're talking about supermarket colours aren't you.

We get an actual milkman bringing actual glass milk bottles to work, and the colours are completely different. Blue is skimmed, red is semi-skimmed. I wonder why?

EDIT: seems that the plastic bottles are a standard, just a different one. No idea why though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_bottle#Present_day

Well, what's the similarity between sex in a canoe and skimmed milk?

Comes in plastic?

Actual 😆 here, thanks for that.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 6:26 pm
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I must admit to have fallen for the 'anti-fat' propaganda and drink skimmed milk. I've weaned myself back onto butter from toxic 'low fat spreads',

You've fallen for "low fat spreads are toxic" propaganda also.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 6:27 pm
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When I were a lad people still drank sterilised milk, red milk is like nectar compared to that.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 6:31 pm
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You've fallen for "low fat spreads are toxic" propaganda also.

Trans-fats are pretty bad for you, and low fat spreads tend to have a lot of them.


 
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Trans-fats are pretty bad for you, and low fat spreads tend to have a lot of them.

Exactly. Fat is not overtly bad for you. It's natural and your body has evolved to live off fat. Low fat spreads manufactured by partially hydrogenated vegetable fats are actually toxic to your body.

Obviously you have to balance what you eat by your level of exercise too - it's not all about diet and suddenly starting to chugg a load of butter and fat down your gullet is not a good thing to do - you still need to eat a healthy and balanced diet that contains sensible amounts of fats and sugars as well as proteins etc. but above all whatever you eat should be natural and as closely as possible resemble the most natural state of the food. So if you want to eat fish, eat a piece of fish that actually resembles fish and not a fish finger.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 6:56 pm
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Looks like rain.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 7:03 pm
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So what is the punchline to the Canoe joke?

I need closure goddammit!


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 7:05 pm
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But the fat content is only 4%.

I wouldn't lose any sleep.

I don't * and I drink at least a litre of the stuff a day.

*if I had a cholesterol check I might.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 7:08 pm
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Skimmed milk is nice in tea, semi-skimmed just makes the tea taste 'cheesy' to me nowadays. Coffee is different - I can use anything from skimmed to cream and it still tastes good.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 7:09 pm
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Wot wobbliscott said.

Also by removing all the fat you lose the fat-soluble nutrients from milk


 
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