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Well here's another one. The scene before they walk into the restaurant, they are walking along Percy Street from the corner of Charlotte Street (used to work further up Charlotte Street, so recognised the corner).

Heh, brilliant!

Watched the second one, fairly decent but one fundamental error that I would have thought Holmes would have known:

He kept referring to the scrawled graffiti symbols as "the cipher". In fact, the graffit symbols were the "ciphertext" - the cipher was the technique that would be used to encrypt and then decrypt (or "de-cipher") the ciphertext into plaintext.

Can't imagine someone with his purported attention to detail wouldn't have got that.

V enjoyable codswallop, though!


 
Posted : 02/08/2010 2:44 pm
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Also, I guessed Chinese numerals immediately. Surely he'd have known or at least been aware of the possibility, and looked up various different number systems...?


 
Posted : 02/08/2010 3:06 pm
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He kept referring to the scrawled graffiti symbols as "the cipher". In fact, the graffit symbols were the "ciphertext" - the cipher was the technique that would be used to encrypt and then decrypt (or "de-cipher") the ciphertext into plaintext.

that is English usage, and nothing to do with its later adoption in cryptography:

wiki: “Cipher” was later used for any decimal digit, even any number.


 
Posted : 02/08/2010 6:25 pm
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I was gutted when there was no Sherlock last night, even though the third episode was too self-referential for my liking, and Moriarty an unconvincing nemesis...


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 10:00 am
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I thought Moriarty stole the show with the swimming pool scene and a great cliff hanger.


 
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I thought Moriarty stole the show

are you also a small Irish person with a squeaky voice ?


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 10:07 am
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lol

Nope the complete opposite, a tall Englishman with a deep voice.


 
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Nope the complete opposite, a tall Englishman with a deep voice.

any acting ability ?


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 10:09 am
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Just as a fool.


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 11:28 am
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Hopefully they'll commission a few more episodes. I was thinking that it's really the British equivalent of CSI 🙂


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 11:42 am
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If they don't I may have to boycott the BBC 🙁


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 11:43 am
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They have commisioned more episodes according to my wife - yay:)


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 11:50 am
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[i]Hopefully they'll commission a few more episodes. [/i]

I believe that this has already happened:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/aug/10/sherlock-second-series-bbc


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 11:50 am
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PHEW!! But it'll be ages 🙁


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 11:56 am
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As Peter Preston in the [url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/aug/15/peter-preston-sherlock ]Guardian[/url] argues the commissioning of only three episodes was a bit odd.


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 12:04 pm
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Not really they were an hour and half long each.


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 12:34 pm
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are you also a small Irish person with a squeaky voice

That was the best bit. You'd have expected some big tough evil looking guy, but the quirky cheerful cheeky monkey bit was actually way more sinister I think. He was supposed to be quite crazy too ("I change my mind a lot") which was pretty good I think.

Personally, I'd have leapt into the pool twisting mid air to shoot at the bomb mid-flight.


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 1:44 pm
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Really good tv, 1st and 3rd episodes were the best.


 
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Personally, I'd have leapt into the pool twisting mid air to shoot at the bomb mid-flight.

despite the impression given in the movies, the shock front from an explosion travels faster than the speed of sound and would almost certaining take you in midair, if your aim were good enough 🙁


 
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1st and 3rd episodes were the best.

That is because they were the ones written by Mark Gatis and Stephen Moffat.


 
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despite the impression given in the movies, the shock front from an explosion travels faster than the speed of sound and would almost certaining take you in midair, if your aim were good enough

Barnes, did you really think that I'd think it would actually work? It was a tongue in cheek argument, clearly 🙂


 
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did you really think that I'd think it would actually work?

it's hard to estimate your naivety from here...


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 3:35 pm
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YOU find it hard..!


 
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YOU find it hard..!

yes, I can only speak for myself 🙂


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 3:41 pm
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It's cos of your Asperger's syndrome, Simon.


 
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It's cos of your Asperger's syndrome, Simon.

you mean if you don't have it you can tell what other people you've never met are thinking ?


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 3:47 pm
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To a much greater extent, yes 🙂

Maybe it's just online-Aspergers syndrome you have.


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 3:48 pm
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Oh great. It's the Molgrips and SFB show....

*changes channel*


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 3:49 pm
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I'll be Sherlock...


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 3:50 pm
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can someone please shoot [b]molgrips[/b]/Watson for verisimilitude ?


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 3:51 pm
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Lol 🙂


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 4:12 pm
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I like the last episode but I'd clocked Moriarty as soon as he appeared as the IT help/love interest for that lass. If it's similar to the book then this would be where Holmes and Moriarty fall off the cliff into the waterfall (although the twist would be Watson dies as well as the bomb is exploded).

Good 3 episodes and I'm pleased to hear more are being commissioned...thought it was a very good take on the Holmes story/character and Watson as well - brought into more modern times...I guess the obvious stuff that was missed had to be missed to make it a longer episode and more suspenseful? Thought it was good far better than the other crap that is on terrestrial tv just now - almost all reality shows - why? Cheap tv to make and just grim to watch.


 
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I guess the obvious stuff that was missed had to be missed to make it a longer episode and more suspenseful?

Shouldn't need to have the characters miss obvious stuff. Slack writing. If you want to write Holmes, you have to be as clever as Holmes 🙂

Still enjoyed it muchly tho.

And I liked the water tie-in with the Moriarty showdown. Pool/waterfall.


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 4:58 pm
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I just hope they give Watson a pair of bollocks and a brain in the new ones.


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 5:02 pm
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Watched all three parts last week. Wasn't too bothered but caught part of it round a friends house and thought it looked ok. So picked it up on iPlayer. Thought it was good. Different enough to make it good and watchable. Love the little touches "this is a 3 (nicotine) patch problem", excellent!


 
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I just hope they give Watson a pair of bollocks and a brain in the new ones.

better still make Watson the clever one and Sherlock quite dim and fat...


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 5:58 pm
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I liked the little references to actual stories: the time pips referring back to the story 'The Five Orange Pips', a bored Holmes shooting at the wall, a reference to a story where he would shoot the initials VR into the wall when bored. There are properly others that I've missed through not being that familiar with the stories.


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 6:17 pm
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If you ever read the books simonfbarnes Watson isn't quiet the useless muppet made out in this programme, old and bumbling maybe but no useless. For an ex-military doctor he could hardly bring himself to look at a corpse.


 
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If you ever read the books simonfbarnes Watson isn't quiet the useless muppet made out in this programme

I don't see him portrayed that way, though he's obviously in awe of Sherlock:)


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 7:01 pm
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Maybe thats the problem I'm to stuck with the old Watson and not come to accept him as he is in this. Though I think the take on Holmes is a good modern adaptation.


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 7:12 pm
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Might be reading too much into it, but the original death of Sherlock Holmes left him hanging on a cliff at the Reichenbach Falls, and this episode ended on a 'cliffhanger'...


 
Posted : 16/08/2010 7:22 pm
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Might be reading too much into it, but the original death of Sherlock Holmes left him hanging on a cliff at the Reichenbach Falls, and this episode ended on a 'cliffhanger'...

It ended with him disappearing, presumed killed in a fight with Moriarty. The exact circumstances aren't revealed until The Empty House, the next ACD story in The Return of Sherlock Holmes.


 
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1st and 3rd episodes were the best.
That is because they were the ones written by Mark Gatis and Stephen Moffat.

Have they written anything interesting before?


 
Posted : 17/08/2010 10:41 am
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Have they written anything interesting before?

Gatiss : League of Gentlemen

Moffat: The good Dr Who episodes....such as Blink.


 
Posted : 17/08/2010 11:05 am
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Not seen any of them. 🙂

The acting was really good, quality performances all round. Best drama for ages.


 
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