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"tesco is the larget employer in the country bar the govt. tesco pays more tax in the uk than any other british company. 18% of us shop there EVERY week. almost half of all british based pension funds hold assets in Tesco. more union members in tesco than there ever were in the mines british leyland the post office and on the railways.. over 3500 employees earn more than 50k."
why is any of that positive? it's just a list of facts. facts that have **** all to do with tesco being 'good' or bad.
jenbe - Memberi take it most of the anti farmer comments come from stupid lower middle class townies, that read the guardian and think any one that does not think like them must be evil or stupid!
all you townie farmer hating morons can go **** youre selves!This is a joke, right?
I guess it wasn't a joke, and I should help the farming community, because?
Not just lazy, but lazy, ungrateful and quite insulting.
I should help the farming community, because?
are you the minister for agriculture.?? Have you constructed jenbe as a troll to spark debate..? Is this the new Con-dem initiative for conducting micro referendums through the medium of singletrack..?
is it..? is it..?
are you vox popping for countryfile..?
very good.. I love it.. I especially love your blinkered hardline capitalist counter stance to jenbe's worried grass roots standpoint..
A1.. I claim my £5.. is it bedtime yet..?
quite insulting
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I quite like Tesco- it keeps the riff-raff out of Waitrose.
tesco dont pay minimum wage they dont pay anything near it. min wage is 5.93 ph tesco minimum grade for an adult is circa 6.90 an hour plus up to 6 weeks holidays 10% staff discount best private sector pension available ( so my pensions advisor tells me)extra payments for anti social hours it aint premier footballers wages but all in its better than a kick in the ..
We all have the ability to shop where we want, just like tv, if we dont have an intrest in the programe we dont have to watch it.
What i look for in a shop , is freindly staff, clean loking staff,quality of the produce, reasonable price, smaller queues, efficent staff who can handle stress, and clear prices.
Not as in a lot of small shops, indifferent aged staff, dodgy tills, that items arent rung into, (tax avaoidance possibly), high prices, out of date stock, and a stupid attitude amongst certain retail staff in small shops of dropping the change into your hand as if your unclean.
Finally diry shelves, cans covered in a layer of dust, because they dont sell many,limited parking, chargeing cash machines etc.
Tesco wins on all,and clubcard points .
FINALLY THE SQUATTERS , WHY DID THEY NEED OR WHERE ABLE TO BUY PETROL, PROBABLY TESCO, with a money off voucher.
Hand on heart, I don't give a shit about this thread for one reason only.
SPELLING! How hard can correct spelling be?? Really?? Just read through your posts and check beforehand, please.
C'mon people, help me out here...
(Bullheart Teacher mode shut-down initiated)
can I have a kiss project?
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Show me where I've insulted anyone.
SPELLING! How hard can correct spelling be?? Really?? Just read through your posts and check beforehand, please.C'mon people, help me out here...
Painful, isn't it?
don simon
(English teacher).
Just to stick my two pence worth in...
Their fruit and nut flapjack is rather nice. 😀
Show me where I've insulted anyone
the whole tone of your entire contribution verged on more than one occasion into the realms of insulting behaviour.. please don't be so obtuse as to deny it..
I stand by my assertion that you are Michelle Gildernew and the input of both jenbe and yourself on this thread have been an elaborate fabrication..
I like their value mozarella FWIW
the whole tone of your entire contribution verged on more than one occasion into the realms of insulting behaviour.. please don't be so obtuse as to deny it..
Do you apply that to anyone who has a differing view from you? That's so absurd it's funny.
I would like to respect the opinion of the person who wrote this...
are you the minister for agriculture.?? Have you constructed jenbe as a troll to spark debate..? Is this the new Con-dem initiative for conducting micro referendums through the medium of singletrack..?
is it..? is it..?
are you vox popping for countryfile..?very good.. I love it.. I especially love your blinkered hardline capitalist counter stance to jenbe's worried grass roots standpoint..
A1.. I claim my £5.. is it bedtime yet..?
I really would...
And if you feel I've insulted your intelligence, I apologise but can hardly be held responsible, can I?
It seems that consumers in the Stokes Croft area care enough.
Yet they do nothing about the massage parlours down the road and the sexual exploitation of women that entails? Funny old world, eh?
simon..
thankyou..
I rest my case..
FWIW I don't have an opinion on the matter.. I was taking in interest in the thread in the hope of becoming more informed..
your point was very clear but your condesending way of presenting it has made me question your integrity..
and now you've obviously had too much beer and sun so continuing this evening would be futile..
glad you had a good day though..
whaty centuary are you in
One where the dictionary has been invented
yunki, seriously, you think that having a point of view and trying to offer advice/solutions is insulting?
Jenbe - I really don't know why I'm disucssing this with you as you are far too blinkered to see that farmers are part of the problem. If individually and collectively you support the supermarkets bad practices then you're only encouraging them. If its so bad, then get out - it sounds like you might earn more per hour, and get better conditions working at the till in the local tescos!
you mean back to how it was before farmers started cultivating the land? (well obviously there were no golf courses then).farming is not like other business, with out it the country side wont bee the same, it will be covered in brambles and gorse the the most part, with shitty golf clubs in between!
simon.. I was insulted by your constant inferral that producers are lazy and ****less..
most people managing traditional farms that I have met have been too busy working themselves to death to be lazy or ****less.. and certainly too busy to learn marketing and sales as you have suggested..
you implied that all the fault was on them..
do you also expect doctors to be roadsweepers and builders to be lawyers..?
your viewpoint seems based on a few examples that have been successful.. not every circumstance can be the same.. thus I found your viewpoint very blinkered.. and your condescension inappropriate, misinformed.. self indulgent and insulting..
your whole argument seems to centre on the belief that farmers need to act their act together..
Now as far as I know the service that farmers were providing prior to the rise of the supermarket was perfectly acceptable to society.. it is only big business that needs the farming industry to pull it's socks up.. not to improve the service for the consumer.. but to improve profit margins for the distributor..
so your argument is quite likely to invoke some ire..
farming is not like other business,
Why not?
Or to put it another way, people I speak to in the pharmceutical business tell me it's not like any others business, as do those in the construction industry, I'd say the photography business is different. What is a normal business?
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simon.. I was insulted by your constant inferral that producers are lazy and ****less..
Look at the reactions of both Jenbe and, I think, Jonah Tonto, who after repeated attempts to enlighten them simply rejected everything and demanded sympathy. If you are faced with a choice of learning something new or failing, I think I'd want to learn something new rather than comtinuing doing the same thing that got me into the mess.
Jenbe's rejection of selling the milk himself directly to the consumer was rejected with a claim that the equipment would cost millions, this I somehow doubt. I was talking about selling green top where you would need a filter a cooler and a small bottling plant. As a farm local to my UK base has done this already and has been operating this for some years, I can't see the million pound investment. Rejected out of hand, not even willing to look at it, yes, lazy.
Co-operatives? A system that works very well with the small farms in Spain, rejected, but the sympathy is still expected. If you can't help yourself...
And, finally, if the truth hurts...
don simon, [edited. Mod]
Thanks. 😉
[EDIT] no problems with the spelling there. 😆
I don't think that consitutes a win yet simon.. not really
maybe what's needed is a more suitable persona to promote your undoubtably valuable contribution..?
as I said.. I know little about this subject but found it interesting.. and I feel that I have learnt a lot.. I hope people on both sides of the debate can learn to do the same..
Yet they do nothing about the massage parlours down the road and the sexual exploitation of women that entails?
Straw man I'm afraid. Sounds like you have a problem with them though. Will you be going down there to protest? And hey, at least they're not Tesco massage parlour. Every little helps...and all that.
Co-operatives? A system that works very well with the small farms in Spain, rejected, but the sympathy is still expected. If you can't help yourself...
And, finally, if the truth hurts...
yea in Spain the government helps its farmers not like hear, you are a teacher so in my experience you know **** about shit! and you're pay pack reflects that!
I don't think that consitutes a win yet simon.. not really
Who's trying to win and what exactly are they trying to win? 🙄
jenbe - learn to spell and use punctuation FFS !! Idiot.
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jenbe - Memberi take it most of the anti farmer comments come from stupid lower middle class townies, that read the guardian and think any one that does not think like them must be evil or stupid!
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jenbe - Memberyossarian - Member
Lazy producers?yea many of them have killed them selves because of tesco destroying their lives, seriously i will happily fight any one that thinks farmers are lazzy and think that some how deserve to lose their way of life for the benefit of a few share holders.
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Because the smaller farms already struggle for money and what you're suggesting is that they set-up an operation that involves buying in containers to hold the milk and then either hiring more people or installing machinery to fill said containers and then someone to sell said containers. On top of that to sell all the milk that they get they'd probably need some form of marketing campaign too.Erm, yes! And if they can't do all that without making a profit, there isn't a business.
Or, they could group together and buy equipment between, say, 5 farms and share the profits. We could even call it a co-operative as they'd be working together.5 skint people put together dont have any money, what planet are you on? seriously i expect you have spent you hole life in a town haven't you!0 to build a botteling and heat treatment plant would cost many millions of pounds!
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jenbe - Memberall you townie farmer hating morons can go * youre selves!
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jenbe - Memberdon simon, go * you self!
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Might I suggest, yunki, that you re-read the thread and look at some of the advice and comments that people have offered and then try and defend the comments of your wounded friend jenbe.
your point was very clear but your condesending way of presenting it has made me question your integrity..
and now you've obviously had too much beer and sun so continuing this evening would be futile..
Haha, what a complete load of tosh! the above quote implies to me that maybe these people are sitting with friends having a bbq! I dont think so.
Some of the people who have contributed to this thread seem to have a vast amount of knowledge on every subject in the world!
I mean, these people seem to have an 'I know more than you' input into every none bike related thread that is on this site, they are on it all day, all night , all evening, every day!
They must have no friends or family life what so ever, spending their entire life arguing with complete strangers, who are obvioulsy taking the pi*s quite alot.
When do they get a chance to ride?
TandemJeremy - that name makes you sound like the dullest man alive, and judging by the amount of time spend on here, im probably right! Do you have friends?????
Junkyard - opininated know it all! You have never taken part in a bike related thread! why are you on here?????
Elfinsafty, Don Simon, trailmonkey???
you lot should spend more time out mixing with real people!!!!
Seriously, you lot should join your local parish, or town councils. You can argue like this all night long then ..................
I mean, these people seem to have an 'I know more than you' input into every none bike related thread that is on this site, they are on it all day, all night , all evening, every day!
How do you know, unless...... 🙄
Anyone have any idea whose alter ego mountainrunner is then?
He seems to know an awful lot about you lot considering he only registered today 🙂
Elfinsafty, Don Simon, trailmonkey???
They're all real people...elfin's probbly aht in lahndan avin a few britneys, don's massaging some retail senior manager's ego in Spain right now and trailmonkey is no doubt regaling someone of Villa's past exploits 😉
All real people and let's be fair, some of the "good guys" around these parts.
Who the **** are you mountainrunner, go on, tell us.
yea in Spain the government helps its farmers not like hear, you are a teacher so in my experience you know **** about shit! and you're pay pack reflects that!
He is pay pack?
Might I suggest, yunki, that you re-read the thread and look at some of the advice and comments that people have offered and then try and defend the comments of your wounded friend jenbe.
might I suggest to you.. a night of passion with my Nan..?
you need some social skills is what I was trying to say in a polite way..
your fellas that you're quoting are upset and angry and not as eloquent as you.. but they are no more rude and much less arrogant..
I suggest you widen your social circle outside of your uni and school buddies and learn a little humility.
I'm done.. it's like bashing my head against a brick wall.. and I must surely have something better to do than debate semantics with a bona fide numpty all night.. I'm not your enemy
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...and they're coming round to Beaches for the first time.....
*drums fingers on the desk
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yea in Spain the government helps its farmers not like hear, you are a teacher so in my experience you know **** about shit! and you're pay pack reflects that!
I'll give you mate's rates if you want.
and I must surely have something better to do than debate semantics with a bona fide numpty all night..
Pure, unadulterated, fu**ing class. 😆
I think I'll just kick back and quaff a bit of the Beaujolais nouveau '76 I've had knocking around. 😉
Junkyard - opininated know it all! You have never taken part in a bike related thread! why are you on here?????
i tend to only voice opinions on things where I am well informed - fortunately that is as vast as my own ego which has driven away everyone I hold dear leaving me alone only with the internet for company. Will you be my friend?
Your assertion about not commenting on bike related threads is just wrong. Go on who are you?
Pure, unadulterated, fu**ing class.
ok.. I don't.. but I wish that I did
might I suggest to you.. a night of passion with my Nan..?
i thought that was funnier personally. I like the cut of your jib Yunki.
Here I am! 😀
Bin ahyt on the bike, in't I? Rode up to Epping Forest, dun 35 miles all in. Proper baking hot, fast, dry and dusty trails. Bloody marvellous. Fahnd some bloke's Balckberry, then his wife rang it and I gave it back to him in Chingford. He's had a right result actually.
Would like to be ahyt 'avin' a few jars, but tbh I'm quite knackered now so I'm going to make a chickeny auberginey tomatoey type thing for me supper.
I've got a big glass of cloudy apple juice (from LiDLs, really nice), and I'm sat here chillin' like it's Sunday.
What was the question?
Can I post a picture?
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Have you got any photos of your Nan?
why thankyou junky.. I try my bestest..
crikey - she's dead.. nearly.. if that helps..?
I'm a nurse, if that helps?
not [i]that[/i] nearly..
mountainrunner - Member?
TandemJeremy - that name makes you sound like the dullest man alive, and judging by the amount of time spend on here, im probably right! Do you have friends?????
Eh? I ain't even been on this thread 😕