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Is that kosher? There’s no date on it, I can’t find it on any credible source
It's for real. From last weekend.
Did you miss the bit where I said she was stupid to do it?
No, I didn't miss that. It's not an answer to the question that I asked you, though.
Nuke - the point is the same people who are manufacturing the outrage against the CMO will not create the same about Johnson and Hancock - who actually behaved far worse and caused real harm
Thank you OOB - IIRC you are no fan of the SNP but you can still see the truth here
Where are the calls for Johnson to resign - he said he deliberatly did not follw the advice and not only caught covid but then passed it around others - while refusing to allow the staff in the HOC to have any protection or to take leave.
NSFW but well funny
If this lady can still do her job 100% as good as she has reportedly been doing then I take my hat off to her, most folk will have this "mistake" playing on their mind constantly probably not sleeping well , loss of libido I bet , and like Cher singing to themselves If I could turn back time. Maybe she is hard as nails and just turns the other cheek
We were planning going to Girvan next weekend but that’s now on hold
PMSL
redmex
MemberIf this lady can still do her job 100% as good as she has reportedly been doing then I take my hat off to her
Trouble is, she can't... Because part of her job was to be listened to, and now regardless of anything else she does, less people will listen. And no way to fix that.
But the expertise side is all still there. I'd assume she has a deputy who should be ready to stand in at short notice in case she, frinstance, gets coronavirus but that's still disruption.
I think maybe "I will remain as an advisor while this crisis continues and will then step down" might not be a bad response.
epicyclo
SubscriberWhen the photographer who tailed her to get the photo also gets a reprimand from the Scottish police, I’ll agree with you.
He was working.
any of you putting the boot in care to address why you didn’t on this aspect
That’s been covered up there ^^^ by @nuke but to regard my open question of whether it casts any doubt over the official line of ‘stay at home, do not leave unless blah blah blah’ as: ‘putting the boot in’, is, IMHO, a tad exaggerated.
Or am I, like you, being a little bit delicate? 😉
She has handed in her resignation
Had to happen. Blame the media if you want but she had become a bigger story than the virus.
I think the media and political culture are in good part to blame.
Druid you imply you think the resignation was necessary?
I agree. Inevitable.
She resigned through embarrassment.
Big and daft – so its OK for the press to break the rules in your book?
This is a nuanced issue, was it in the public interest to show that the CMO wasn't doing what she was telling everyone else to do? Are people allowed to go to work if they can't do it at home? Restricting the press because they report inconvenient facts is a murky path, well trodden by regimes that don't like what a free press say
Now come on – where is the outrage about Johnson and the rest of the plague marys in cabinet who flaunted the guidance and actually spread the disease around? where is the outrage about Charles who knowing he had symptoms moved himself and his retinue into a small rural community?
I thought this was a thread about the CMO? Haven't seen any pics of the glad handing, yep the royals shouldn't have moved Charles, at least they only did it once and didn't lie about it.
I also really appreciate all the self righteous virtue signallers who clap the key workers and then pop round to a mates house or take a trip to malham cove, or go to their holiday home every weekend........ just like the CMO
Inevitable she had to go.. but I can’t help thinking ‘What on Earth was she thinking?’. Ignoring the implications of disobeying the very guidance she’s giving out: Her face in on the tv several times a day. She goes to a small village where everyone is going to recognise her and wanders about openly. How could she think she would get away with it? What a daft end to a career.
In 3 months time let's hope that we've forgotten this person and we're all riding bikes freely.
In 3 months time let’s hope that we’ve forgotten this person and we’re all riding bikes freely.
Amen (secular) to that - and to hoping Boris makes it through unscathed (medically), though a good old scare along the way would't do his attitude any harm
Seems to me that she had to quit - I wonder why she didn't immediately (and suspect it was someone stupidly suggesting she sit tight and see what happens with the reaction).
Boris shaking hands with everybody - equally stupid, hugely more likely to spread virus than a family trip to the holiday home.
However:
Man's a sideshow and everybody knows it. Nobody's seriously looking to him for advice. On that basis, he's just being big, daft, chummy old Boris and this in particular won't be his problem. They'll dump him before this time next year though, and probably a lot sooner IMO
Hancock - what's he done ? (I realise that can be asked in an insulting way, too and that's resonable). Has he failed to follow govt advice ? He's definitely muddied it from time to time but that's different to flouting it and again, consistent for him in general
Matt Hancock should also go/fall on his sword for failing to take his departments advice.
scaredypants
SubscriberHancock – what’s he done ? (I realise that can be asked in an insulting way, too and that’s resonable). Has he failed to follow govt advice ? He’s definitely muddied it from time to time but that’s different to flouting it and again, consistent for him in general
Still coughs/sneezes onto his hands for one (and sat all teh way through PMQs doing it while colleagues stared daggers at him). Got filmed coughing into his hand then wiping it on his arse, <after> being diagnosed with corona...
Hancock - didn't follow the advice and got Corona as a result and then spread it around.
Be better with Tony Hancock than that balloon.
Simple replacement would be to get Jason Leitch in to do her daily update, he speaks really well, and keep her in her job behind the scenes. Too late for that now.
Looking like a poor political judgement now. Is Sturgeons touch deserting her?
Did Nicola Sturgeon appoint her? Is she a direct report to Sturgeon?.
There are some people on here who clearly cannot countenace the idea that Scotland can do things worse than down south.
Good to see that we have equity between barrel scraping both North and South of the border.
The reason she was put up to speak to the public was because she is not a politician. aka Someone You Can Trust.
Or not as he case turned out!
She was the best person for the job and it is a massive loss. However she had to be credible and her actions have completely destroyed her credibility. No one can be certain that Catherine Calderwood practices what she preaches.
Best of luck to Dr Gregor Smith deputy cmo who is stepping up
Shame that a silly mistake costs the country the best person for that job.
I hate the press, but she gave them rope to hang her with.
Shame that a silly mistake costs the country the best person for that job
She deliberately flouted the official advice she is responsible for delivering, which is designed to avoid spreading an illness that has locked down the country and can kill people. She didn't just do it once, she went off for a wee break to her second home two weekends in a row.
You have to be incredibly generous to class that as a "silly mistake", and if she didn't understand the consequences of what she was doing, or simply didn't care about the consequences, that might suggest she's not actually the best person for the job.
Did seem inevitable. If she'd popped up for a few hours to secure the property then maybe it'd be different. A couple of trips with the family in tow is just bonkers.
Gregor Smith's tweet from Saturday is poignant.
that might suggest she’s not actually the best person for the job.
Pretty obvious she wasn't at all appropriate for the position.
If you can't lead by example, you can't lead full stop.
I saw the donkey pic and thought in a battle situation the donkey would either be tied up or shot.
Sure enough the pic is not Ww2 and it is not a minefield. The soldier is carrying a starved donkey back to base where it became a mascot.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/soldier-carrying-donkey/
At least she has somewhere nice to go and relax for the summer until this all blows over and she gets headhunted............
Any idea what sort of pay off she will get, if any?
Warning, contains potty mouth Jane Godley.
Seems to be contagious
I haven't read the whole thread (so someone else might have posted) but the Health Minister here in NZ has just been demoted for a similar thing (only last week he was chastised for going mountain biking outside of Dunedin) then it turns out he's taken his family to the beach 20km's away from his home.
Seems to be contagious
Nothing new, all politicians think the rules only apply to other people and not themselves....
Add the royal elite to that.