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It's probably his dream at the moment, the more the government put effort into shutting him down, the more he can sell himself to the right, said it earlier in the thread, when it gets this much media, the government and others start interfering, and it always seems to cause more issues than it resolves.
Are they though?
Yes. They’re asking a question not demanding they withdraw their financial support.
The half your age plus 7 is a terrible rule of thumb
as a 47 year old that means it would be frowned upon if I was dating a 30 year old. No one in society would blink an eyelid if I was luck enough to be able to do that.
I’d appreciate it if we could all be inclusive and use the appropriate term for the sexual orientation: MAPs (Minor Attracted Persons). LGBTQ+M!
Your knuckles must be grazed to **** if you (even 'jokingly') think it's ok to lump paedophiles in with people that are LGBTQ+
At least your username checks out.
As much as Brand is clearly loathsome, he hasn’t been convicted of any crime (yet) and this is his job, the vast majority of his content is of the tin foil hat variety, and whilst I don’t agree woith what he says, he is entitled to broadcast those views on a public platform.
Brand is entitled to say what he likes, within the laws of the UK. He is not entitled to a means of broadcast and nobody has to provide him a platform. Rumble are choosing to continue working with him, Youtube have chosen a slightly different approach.
think it’s ok to lump paedophiles in with people that are LGBTQ+
I mention it because of how ludicrous it is. I think there's enough instances already on this thread of people assuming that something said in jest is serious. I'm not sure I could make it any clearer that it wasn't a view I agree with
as a 47 year old that means it would be frowned upon if I was dating a 30 year old. No one in society would blink an eyelid if I was luck enough to be able to do that.
Except every one of your 47 year old, and their 30 year old mates 🤪
The half your age plus 7 is a terrible rule of thumb
as a 47 year old that means it would be frowned upon if I was dating a 30 year old. No one in society would blink an eyelid if I was luck enough to be able to do that.
I think you'd get some looks! Perhaps not enough for anyone in polite britain to say anything but perhaps a few comments behind your back - if you were reasonably wealthy she'd be called a gold digger etc. At what age would it seem weird in the other direction? because that "rule" works both ways - it would probably seem a bit odd if you were chasing around after an 80 year old too...
I wouldn't live my life by rules of thumb but I think its just about the point where it starts to feel like there's something a bit odd going on. You probably see that yourself by describing yourself as "lucky enough to be able to do that". Its outside the norm. Does it mean there's a sinister power imbalance - no, and of course there's plenty of people the same age as each other where the relationships are terribly unbalanced. But I'd say its actually a pretty good gauge of when society starts to think its unusual/uncomfortable.
When young (18ish) nights out with guys consisted of trying to pull someone double your age. Not something I want to try now 😂
Yes. They’re asking a question not demanding they withdraw their financial support.
Whilst not a demand it is a bit of a leading/threatening question. Youtube have done x are you thinking about the same?
When young (18ish) nights out with guys consisted of trying to pull someone double your age. Not something I want to try now
yeah, grave digging went out with Burke & Hare!
Someone I knew many years ago identified himself aa asexual
One of my mates identifies as trisexual because he'll try anything
1) it’s not the government – it’s a parliamentary committee.
2) nor is it Parliament. It’s a single committee.
3) and nor is it attempting to control anything. It’s asking if they will continue to pay Brand
indeed...
Seems culture and media secretary
She's not the culture and media secretary. Dineage (daughter of Fred from How? as it goes for those of my generation) is currently a back bench MP who happens to chair this cross party committee, asking some questions.
It clearly suits Rumble to be outraged by this and get what mileage they can.
as a 47 year old that means it would be frowned upon if I was dating a 30 year old. No one in society would blink an eyelid if I was luck enough to be able to do that.
Dating in middle age is a minefield...if all else fails...
She’s not the culture and media secretary. Dineage (daughter of Fred from How? as it goes for those of my generation) is currently a back bench MP who happens to chair this cross party committee, asking some questions.
Ah! I misread cheers.
Still a reasonable question don’t see the harm in her asking.
Reading some of these rules of thumb makes me happy to live in a society where you can marry your school teacher and still get to be head of state. And your older wife gives Camilla deux bises without a hint of a bow or bending knees. 🙂
18 is 18, after that all that matters is consent.
Still a reasonable question don’t see the harm in her asking
I don't see any harm in asking.
I don't see any harm in “get ****ed" being an equally reasonable answer.
I suspect every 47 I knew would be rather jealous
As an extreme example..Any 50 year old single bloke who says they wouldn’t date Paige Spiranac is either lying or gay…no two ways about it
Anyway we digress. There’s obviously a huge difference between a 50 year old dating a 30 year old and an adult of any age going out with a school kid.
I have been in relationships with women 20 years younger then me.
Should I hand myself into the police?
Not even close, middle BIL is just 33 years older than his partner of 5 years (she's the same age as my daughter). We do wonder what she sees in him.
33 years older than his partner of 5 years
A 38-year old dating a 5-year old is pretty bad by anyone's metrics I'd have thought.
Any 50 year old single bloke who says they wouldn’t date Paige Spiranac is either lying or gay…no two ways about it
A third way: "who?"
Anyway we digress. There’s obviously a huge difference between a 50 year old dating a 30 year old and an adult of any age going out with a school kid.
Any age? 18?
I think you're possibly being a bit too literal and long term with 'date'. But yeah, golf, bleh...
I had to Google Paige Spiranac, one look was enough for "no way". If that makes me a gay who copes by liking lean sporty intelletual ladies so be it. 🙂
The last time I dated an 18 year old I was 27, she dated and had a kid with someone older than me. 18 is 18, old enough to vote, old enough to drive a car, old enough to be on a UK jury (not France though -23). Old enough to make decisions for themselves, and who are we to judge?
There are practical considerations if the participants hope the relationship will be long term, I know a delightful woman who nursed her ageing spouse until he was put into a home with behavioural issues, then died - about 20 years difference. But from a moral point of view 18 is 18.
But from a moral point of view 18 is 18.
Not with me it isn't. From a legal PoV maybe; but a kid in sixth form being dated by a classmate is morally very different to being dated by a 55 year old.
But from
amy moral point of view 18 is 18.
FTFY. Morality is very much subjective. Some will agree with thee, others will not.
I had to Google Paige Spiranac, one look was enough for “no way”. If that makes me a gay who copes by liking lean sporty intelletual ladies so be it. 🙂
My question is how good is she at golf? I have not seen her on any of the golf tours or is she only good at posing on the driving range or putting at the green only?
The only time I've been morally troubled by age difference was when when working in Leicester and knowing some of the girls were already promised to much older men. The moral issue for me was that it wasn't their own choice. The other issue in those schools were out of control boys whose old fathers had died making them the head of the household with their mothers powerless to impose any rules or discipline. So my morals were troubled due to a culture clash and I had to work on what would have been racist reactions on my part if I hadn't contained them and been tolerant towards another society's morals.
Each society has its morals and I feel comfortable with the morals where I live.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66882644
Can't see this being the end of it by a long way. Women who have felt powerless and unable to report this kind of behaviour and worse finally being heard.
The 'man' deserves no sympathy or respect.
ETA, there are also some ridiculous analogies and edge cases being made in this thread, I have no idea why unless to excuse his behaviour, or, I don't know, because it's the internet.
So my morals were troubled due to a culture clash and I had to work on what would have been racist reactions on my part if I hadn’t contained them and been tolerant towards another society’s morals.
Great post. For absolute transparency I have also 'like liked' it 😂
I don’t see any harm in “get ****ed” being an equally reasonable answer.
Also true but the point is the government haven’t tried to intervene at all.
I want to like Edukator’s last few posts but daren’t. Also love that this thread has turned in to a deep dive in to the Etymology of prison slang!
Well I refuse to like any posts featuring pictures of dogs.
Well I refuse to like any posts featuring pictures of dogs.
Whereas I will like every post with a dog in it.
Any 50 year old single bloke who says they wouldn’t date Paige Spiranac is either lying or gay…no two ways about it
im not 50 or single and had to google who she was. Do you think I should tell my wife I’m gay? I mean in fairness I’d probably rather go on a date with some blokes than “an American social media personality”.
I'm 47 and 'date' Paige Spiranac. Well fit! But I'm shallow....
I'd never heard of her. I can see the superficial appeal, but golf? No thanks.
Tbh, anyone that has "social media personality" in their opening lines is a hard pass regardless of looks.
Not that she would be missing out tbf.
"Middle aged, unsuccessful, irritable and in increasingly poor shape with (being generous) sub-optimal looks" is not much of an opening line for me either 😀
Also never heard of her. I'm shocked to discover at 59 that I 'must be gay'. I'm sure she's a nice person, but that Barbie-a-like look does nothing for me.
This thread is full of the sort of casual and wayward misogyny that enabled idiots like Brand in the first place. Men s****ing at jokes, judging on appearance, victim blaming. I'm honestly surprised it's been allowed to continue for this long. I'm happy to call it out, happy to get flamed for it, but really think there's quite a few people on here who need to have a little think about their attitudes. I remember the abuse my sister used to get out and about when we were teenagers and into our 20's (mid 90's to 2000's), how that sort of behaviour leads to an incident where my wife was assaulted when she was younger. And I remember hauling some greasy dirt bag of a lawyer out of a bar after he tried to slap one of the bar staff because she wasn't paying him enough attention, or removing a medical student from the Hive in Glasgow after he'd repeatedly punched a girl in the face for refusing his advances (he was shouting that we weren't to touch his hands as he was training to be a surgeon).
How do you have claim to have an inclusive and welcoming sport and then a thread like this is allowed to run on STW?
Fully agree. As a mid 40s father of 3 young women this thread is really making me think about why I spend any time on this forum.
How do you have claim to have an inclusive and welcoming sport and then a thread like this is allowed to run on STW?
The victim blames have been rightfully lambasted by a majority on here. The judging on appearance I’d have to wade through to find them, of course they can also be reported. We’ve deleted posts, warned users and issued bans due to this thread. It’s something that needs discussed in the hope some see the wrong he has been accused of.
In a way it is good thread as it highlights just how much work there still is to do with so many men with awful attitudes towards it - and that is on a forum where you expect to see slightly more reasoned people that in the 'real world'
Any 50 year old single bloke who says they wouldn’t date Paige Spiranac is either lying or gay…no two ways about it
I’m not yet 50, luckily not single,
I’m doubtful that I am homosexual and although not 100% truthful in a lot of things - very much sure she’s not my type.