[Closed] Rugby world cup

hmmm. pains me to say, should have been wales game, after loosing jones and stoddardt the blacks should have waltzed this. Doff my leek to you taffy's.

nickname good link cheers.

I dunno, both sides as bad as each other

However, the real All-Blacks (oh alright, the Scottish Exiles)are looking bloody good, unlike the home nations.At least we won against Ireland, but we were rough.I still think we will be better than Argentina, thus reaching expectations. However compare the pace and tempo of todays games with the tear up this morning.Nobody from the Northern Hem can get too excited.

Good win for Scotland. Why the difficulty in turning chances into scores tho? Loads of ball in the Irish 22.

Looked rusty but willing. I hope Ansbo gains some confidence from that and shows he is the answer to Scotlands centre problems.

Good performances from a few guys but rucking needs to be sharpened up / emphasised more

I was watching the Ireland game and thinking how much more I prefer an open running game rather than the war of attrition between the packs (ex-winger see) when what did Scotland go and do?
Beautiful try.
50 X 100m sprints in training? 😯

Yeah, a win for Scotland against any Ireland team has to go down as a big result for them. They should have had Ireland's reserves put away by half time though. A 78th minute try to save the blushes wasn't really what they'd have been looking for I guess. Argentina will be living their lips at that display today. 🙂

I don't think Argentina , Scotland and England are much of a muchness at all! Probably only Scottish people calling it a group of death. After watching nz v sa the other day though there is a gulf between north and south in terms of the intensity esp at the break down.

Argentina will be living their lips at that display today.

Has Colin Charvis had botox? He's looking good given his age.

Not that much of an Irish reserve team DD. Still if that gives you an excuse,that's fine.A big result for us is not beating you, it is beating Argentina. Our lineout and contact was rubbish;and will improve, yet you still could not beat us. Ireland looked slow,old and lacking in ideas.

I thought an inexperienced Walsh team did well against a far more experienced england side, Wales had nothing on the bench either and pushed england all the way. Result came down to home advantage imo. England knocked on from kick off, enlish player picked up in front and scrum given should have been a pen. Ref then got it right from the next scrum when Felatau (looked in experienced but kept trying) knocked on wales player picked up in front and pen given!! How did walsh miss that knock on too???
Tuilagi will be ruthelessly exploited by better teams and Flutey was totally anonymous. Need to see Delve and Henson play next week for Wales and Priestland was very good for a first cap. Have to wonder re Felatau and others how Wales playing England will prepare them for playing Samoa and Fiji the two teams they need to beat in the world cup. Felatau may get much more broken field runs against them.

Watching Ireland Scotland as we speak 65 mins in its like watching two one legged men in an arse kicking contest. Scotland couldnt score in a brothel and at least ireland have the excuse of playing a second team.

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poor bugger, full marks to Danny Care for refusing to carry on playing too.

maxray - Member

I don't think Argentina , Scotland and England are much of a muchness at all!

Really? Look at the IRB rankings and look at recent results between them. Very little to chose between them

Only saw the Wales game through the highlights on the news and was pleased to see Wales playing rugby and scoring tries.

Remember kiddies, if it can't be Googled, it's wrong.

Really? Look at the IRB rankings and look at recent results between them. Very little to chose between them

TJ, on todays showing and all we have seen in recent seasons Scotland are plain rubbish, England are however quite good and Argentina are a team in decline.

I hope Ansbo gains some confidence from that and shows he is the answer to Scotlands centre problems.

I thought Lamont looked a threat at 12 when he played there in the six nations, much better than Morrison.

That will be the Scotland that in the last 3 games against England the results are a win apiece and a draw? The Scotland that beat a full strength Argentina team in Argentina twice? the Argentina team that beat England and pushed them close?

England would be the favourites of course but anyone who thinks there is much between the three when you look at recent results and IRB rankings is daft

With my blue filter on. I don't understand how ireland don't get penalised at the break down for being off their feet and not rolling away and having a loose forward on the wrong side of the ball. Almost every time. Anyone watching that will have the ball carriers driving low, too high in the tackle

Yes, probably best to take the blue filter off. Ireland were just far better at the breakdown all day long. And @duckman, no excuses, I never like to see the green machine lose, but if you're making out that that particular green machine was anything other than a reserves team (apart from a few positions) then you're as deluded as TeeJ. I'm not exactly familiar with what Argentina have been up to recently, but given Scotland's ineptitude at crossing the line given how much time they spent inside the 22 today, and Argentina's reputation for steely defence, I don't think Scotland gave them much to worry about.

Darcy - all yo need to do is look at the results between the 3 teams in the last couple of years to see how close they are. that and the IRB rankings

Ireland did give Scotland a lesson in the rucks for sure the defence generally was good.

Tandem +1.

Rankings shmankings! 😀 How many 6 nations have Scotland won, how far do they get in world cups? All will become clear once the group games get under way.

Sorry TeeJ, I just meant deluded in general. But I agree the IRB rankings and results suggest there's not much between the three.

If it was the Argentina of the last RWC, Scotland would be in a shaky position, but like I said, I'm not up to speed on what they're like at the moment.

EDIT: The rankings also suggest the green machine are good for a semi final spot. 😀 So we know how much attention can be paid to those.

maxray - Member
Rankings shmankings!

You can make statistics say pretty much anything. To pit it simply, England are far more likely to win the world cup than Scotland or Argentina whatever the irb rankings say. 🙂

Of course if we have to use the rankings there's pretty much the same points difference between Scotland and Japan as england and Scotland 🙄 Nuff said. 😀

I don't think either Wales or England were particularly up for it. I have a feeling there's an element of hustle going on here 🙂 As in, hold back, look poor so the other sides under-estimate you...

Me no unnerstannn DD? We have an ineptitude at crossing the line, but did and beat your lot; how is that a positive for Ireland...That bodes well for your pensioners XV next month 😀
And that was not a first choice Scotland XV either I am afraid.
As an aside, the SRU are skint due to their decision not to use lottery funding to rebuild Murrayfield. That means they have had to cut their cloth when it comes to the three then two pro teams,this means that the districts are actually bringing on young talent. The Irish Provinces have players like Howlett boosting their pensions and taking up jumpers. How long can the IRFU sustain this, bearing in mind the well documented problems the southern economy has.The pro teams there do not get huge crowds outside of European games (Magners brings in anything from 4-8000 spectators,not enough to cover outgoings)

Me no unnerstannn DD? We have an ineptitude at crossing the line, but did and beat your lot; how is that a positive for Ireland...That bodes well for your pensioners XV next month 😀 And that was not a first choice Scotland XV either I am afraid.
As an aside, the SRU are skint due to their decision not to use lottery funding to rebuild Murrayfield. That means they have had to cut their cloth when it comes to the three then two pro teams,this means that the districts are actually bringing on young talent. The Irish Provinces have players like Howlett boosting their pensions and taking up jumpers. How long can the IRFU sustain this, bearing in mind the well documented problems the southern economy has.The pro teams there do not get huge crowds outside of European games (Magners brings in anything from 4-8000 spectators,not enough to cover outgoings)

That will be the Scotland that in the last 3 games against England the results are a win apiece and a draw? The Scotland that beat a full strength Argentina team in Argentina twice? the Argentina team that beat England and pushed them close

How many tries have that inept set of players that are called the scotland team scored in the last three years? You need to face facts TJ scotland are rubbish, England are much better and 9 times out of ten will beat scotland home or away. England are also quite a bit better than wales but thats another story.Scotland do not have a back who would be considered for a Lions squad and would also struggle to see more than two front 5 players considered.

A-A; I am afraid TJ has you there, last three years,one apiece and a draw,and this;

You need to face facts TJ scotland are rubbish, England are much better and 9 times out of ten will beat scotland home or away

is statistically inaccurate.

Oh and thank God nobody remembers who won,just the number of tries they scored...oh hang on 8)

What happened to A-A's pin up yesterday, was he injured? I only saw the highlights of the England/occupied territory game.

is statistically inaccurate

how can it, the current Scotchland team hasnt played the current englandshire team 10 times, they only play once a season. If you want stats tell me how many tries scotland have scored in the last 3 years against top nations which we'll take as six nations teams and tri nations teams? Then tell me how many of those were against the weak teams like Wales and Italy, tell you what we'll trow in Argentina too as they are on a level with Wales, Italy and Scotland.

Scotland may beat England at the world cup but its unlikley, very unlikely

53/33/14 In Englands favour, hardly dominant is it? Away now to look at the World Cup stats...

Wales and england are pretty much level on historical record but england are currently a much better team, these stats are pointless.

Is that eng v Scot win lose and draw? If so it is fairly dominant 🙂

A a is right, its like comparing Manchester utd and Liverpool, fairly equal titles count but Liverpool haven't won it for donkeys years.

ah, a handy thread. i had a wee bit of a rare foray into tv watching today and saw a some of the highlights of the england-wales game. now forgive me if i'm a bit behind the times you rugby viewing types but can you explain why england are dressed as the all blacks? is this a new tactic to fool the opposition? and if so who will they dress up as next?

If so it is fairly dominant

It suggests that England would win half of all matches played. I wouldn't class that as dominant. Scotland have never beaten England or Argentina at the world cup though 😉

TJ has missed an England win too, it's 2/1/0 in the last 3 years TJ 😉

As AA said it's all fairly irrelevant anyway as current form is the best indicator. Lets face it, none of the home nations has a decent chance of winning the World Cup. The mean side of my nature really wants one of us to put the Kiwis out though.

Lol at A-A

England are of course favourites to beat Scotland. However to say it is very unlikely to go Scotland's way is utter tosh.

England needed a forward pass to beat Scotland at Twickenham in the 6N. They were the better team but a full strength Scotland side playing in front of a massive support in NZ will be troubling MJ.

I absolutley would not bet against England but but would not put a big amount on them to win either

TJ - Unfortunately think you are wrong . Think the last 3 encounters have 2 England wins and one draw.

In many ways this debate is a mute point. NZ vs Oz on Sat morning showed the SH to be leagues ahead of the NH :-(. I hope these warm up games sharpen the NH teams up considerably.

A a is right, its like comparing Manchester utd and Liverpool, fairly equal titles count but Liverpool haven't won it for donkeys years.

Haven't Liverpool beaten Man U more often recently though?

Edit: Sorry about the fussball tangent 😕

😳 its 2 wins and a draw the last 3 years.

However the basic point still remains - all recent games between the three teams have been tight and there is no great gulf between them

England and France are the only NH teams with a hope of springing a suprise as they have the power to compete, scotchland do not.

TJ, that could be because the Scotchish only bother to play properly against your home team, England. 😉

However the basic point still remains - all recent games between the three teams have been tight and there is no great gulf between them

your deluded 🙄