For years, in try saving tackles anything goes.
I must admit I find the current rules odd. In forward carries they all duck their head & smash in head first. But as soon as the ball spins wide, any contact with the head is a red.
Halfpenny clashed with May in the air - his elbow accidentally hits Maybin the head - he is on the floor for 5 minutes, and subbed off after a failed HIA. It was totally not intentional, but it was contact to the head with force. Not even looked at (not that I think it should be, but under their rules......)
Rugby is making itself look a bit stupid at the moment.
For years, in try saving tackles anything goes.
Not really.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2wtYc-PPCCE
Rugby is making itself look a bit stupid at the moment.
No it isnt Tuilagi used no arms to intentionally charge with the shoulder, it was a harsh red as North was dropping but as the ref said he couldnt apply mitigation as it was never a legal tackle gone wrong.
The May incident was very like Fickou and North 2 weeks ago, accidental collision.
My bet it will be less, a LOT less. That was a good game for the almost neutral
Is it because market has come back from retirement, he's untouchable. He seems to be really going for the season's wind up merchant prize.
I’m not a rugby expert
Perhaps you should have stopped there.
Marler has always been a wind up merchant and not just with the opposition, he has a Jester like personality. But these things go on all the time in rugby, it’s quite common for players to try to get a rise - no pun intended - from the opposition. In my time I’ve seen that kind of stuff, props munching on garlic bulbs, general banter about ones wife of girlfriend.... I could go on.
I’m not sure Tuilagi’s tackle could have been anything else TBH. North was so low and Tuilagi coming in so fast that - if you watch the replay - if he’d had his right arm raised to shoulder height to wrap that same arm would have contacted North right under the chin / neck. It would have been worse. The reason he’s off is because of the head contact, but I don’t believe it was deliberate.
And Wales for the win? No not really unless another 10 mins was available for a tired 14 men because Genge would have been back on. England asleep at the kick off, and then run out of players at Tips second try marred was was a very good defensive game from them in the main. They look a different team with Tuilagi and Watson on the field. Wales gained 17 points (two converted tries and 3 points before half time) from our mistakes, they weren’t playing better than England, high isn’t to say they were playing badly at all.
I’m not sure Tuilagi’s tackle could have been anything else TBH.
He could have used his arms!!
As for Marler if AWJ cant turn round and knock him out that sort of shit needs to be dealt with, I had it happen to me, I ****ed the bloke, thats fine, if you are not allowed to do that players need protecting.
He could have used his arms!!
yes of course but note my opinion of the result based on him doing so.
yes of course but note my opinion of the result based on him doing so.
Being unable to tackle legally does not mean you can tackle illegally, not sure I follow your reasoning.
If Tuilagi had been leading with his arms / hands he would have been attempting a legal tackle thus its not foul play and mitigation would come into effect
I’m just pointing out that the outcome for North could have been worse. Likely Tuilagi might have received a yellow for a dangerous tackle, which we’d be debating instead and wouldn’t affect the result. Yellow goes to red for the reasoning TJ provides.
Right. Off to murrayfeild, lots of happy French singing in the spring sunshine
I think we might get stuffed
Marler being a wind up artist, a jester or a utter oaf doesn’t mitigate what he did. Do that in a pub or club and you could be charged with sexual assault.
Has he been cited?
Wales just made to many unforced errors, Privac needs to get the discipline that Gatland instilled into the team, early days so not panicking yet.
Not so much discipline in avoiding pens but Wales tried to play too much rugby in the wrong areas. England showed poor discipline throughout. Itoje is a great player but is a pen magnet, Faz is a complete knobber too, good player but does some really stupid things.
Eddie Moans puts his views across!!
Good luck TJ, get the beer in early it could be a long day!!
Lucky!!
Where should I look for tj in the crowd? Any distinguishing features? Fancy dress?
I think he's on the bench.
Moore hates the french doesnt he, shit game so far!
And straight away France wake up!!
Best chance for Scotland so far.
That is utter bollocks, Scot 6 ran in from miles away and attacks French who defends himself, games will die on its arse if you can get a red for that!
French guy was holding his collar then punched him in the face. Not sure that's defending yourself.
Has rugby always been this full of dirty play? I don't remember seeing as much in the past, but perhaps I'm just not remembering right. Perhaps it's just the increased number of cameras and ability to quickly replay.
I thought England were really bad yesterday and equally poorly behaved against Ireland. Now France get a red for a punch off the ball.
Scot 6 should have got a yellow...he ran in from 10m away...if he hadn't, the scuffle would have stopped. (Not saying French bloke shouldn't get red)
There's too much wendyball style shite trying get a rise out of players. Why should the Scotland 6 run in from miles away and get involved, who cares if you push in the face rather than punch? Why should Marler get away with grabbing someones junk and they not be able to smack them, its just turning into soccer.
Scot 6 should have got a yellow
Yep 100%
I agree, the Scottish 6 just about gave the French player whiplash. I don't mind the red so much if the scottish player gets something as well.
I'm sure I heard Peter Wright call the referee a fud on Radio Scotland. I think France can still win this. It's the hope that gets you when you're following Scotland
Crikey, I left for 30 mins...
I wish I'd put that fiver on us now 🤦♂️😂
Yawn...Welsh and English slagging the Scots off for whining at the ref while ignoring the actual forests in their own eyes. Farrell does it every 5 mins usually backed up by itoje and AWJ uses the press conference to ask for incidents to be looked at.
If players got a yellow for running in and getting involved most matches would end up with an empty pitch and Farrell would never play a full match
Farrell would never play a full match
Works for me 😂😂
There’s too much wendyball style shite trying get a rise out of players. ....... its just turning into soccer
Football has its own issues to deal with but people regularly running in and getting involved has always been part of rugby and claiming that that makes it like football is pathetic. I can't remember the last time a home international football team game turned into a 15 man brawl. It happens practically every 6N game.
I get that rugby is a hostile, contact sport, and tempers boil over and I get that rugby is way better in many respects than soccer but on this aspect it's a rugby problem and pointing and name calling as if you're superior to the beautiful game is very rose tinted.
Welsh and English slagging the Scots off for whining at the ref
Where?
I can’t remember the last time a home international football team game turned into a 15 man brawl. It happens practically every 6N game.
No itvdoesnt, cant recall the last brawl in an international its just a load of wendyballesque flapping and pushing usually with one player lying on the floor holding his head so the video ref knows where to look.
Good win for Scotland, this will really test Pivac next week.
I think Scotland definitely looked the better of the two teams today, ignoring the red card etc. Thing is not sure how the table is going to end up with postponed matches so think the whole tournament may end up feeling a bit disappointing with no real conclusion.
The France try was lovely. Well done Scotland, a well deserved win. It appears difficult to tell quite where Scotland are from their games so far. The commentators clearly see Scotland as favourites to beat Wales next weekend, but I really can’t tell what to think. I’d be happy for Wales to be underdogs though.
Has rugby always been this full of dirty play?
Yes. A certain Martin Johnson has plenty of disciplinary issues for slapping people who cheesed him off.
Good win for Scotland today. France didn’t look like the team that started the championship so well.
There’s been a lot of niggle with year. Marler is a tit; he seemed to have calmed down a bit after coming out of retirement but it appears he’s back to being a prick.
its just a load of wendyballesque flapping and pushing
There you go again. That doesn't happen in football anywhere like the frequency of rugby where it's several times a game. Just because it doesn't actually involve punches every time doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Yeah but rugby players still have respect for the ref, and each other. A lot of footballers are just overpaid entitled young brats.
The commentators clearly see Scotland as favourites to beat Wales next weekend, but I really can’t tell what to think. I’d be happy for Wales to be underdogs though.
I think it could be tough for Wales, Scotland seem to be able to score tries, the scrum is strong, whereas Wales defence is poor and our scrum distinctly average. Scottish lineout is ropey but Wales isnt a strength either.
Yeah but rugby players still have respect for the ref, and each other. A lot of footballers are just overpaid entitled young brats.
If you read my post I said that football has it's own problems but players running in from all over the pitch to get involved in mass brawling isn't one of them
Never understand why rugby fans have the need to degrade football with the term "Wendyball" having played both, each are physically demanding in different ways.
Never understand why rugby fans have the need to degrade football with the term “Wendyball” having played both, each are physically demanding in different ways.
Its due to all the play acting and feigning injury which is what I was talking about not the running in to scuffles, its getting far too common and its due to the lack of ability to sort out issues themselves.
