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Best one since Empire Strikes Back IMO
Despite my agreivances, I'm almost inclined to agree.
Although, ROTJ has some awesome moments (AT-ST's, the Speeder scene, Luke v Vader, Leia in that outfit)
Some elements of M.A.R.K 13 from Hardware in there!
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Looks a bit like Master Plokoon
Just seen it in IMAX 3D. Have seen all the films but wouldn't suggest I am a true fan. Ok not great. Wall to wall shooting and zero plot. Seems simply a vehicle to sell kids toys and computer games.
Of course there's wall-to-wall shooting, [i]its a war film![/i]
Zero plot? Perhaps that explains why I found no difficulty following it, then.
I'm not very good at this metaphor thing - but the Rebels... they're basically ISIS yeah?
Eh? 😯
Well, perhaps, if you equate the likes of the French Resistance, and the Kurdish Peshmerga as 'basically ISIS'.
I'm not going to make the glaringly obvious connection between the Empire and certain 20th Century totalitarian governments.
Saw it today 3D imax - thought it was great 'link' movie - loads of Easter eggs.
3D irritated me when I wanted to look at 'background' and chief/front players were in forced focus- Q:Does this happen in 2D version?
Yeah there were parts on the 2D version when the focus was very tight and everything else blurry - it was also grainy and fuzzy in parts for no obvious reason I assumed it was something to do with the 3D version.
I'm not going to make the glaringly obvious connection between the Empire and certain 20th Century totalitarian governments. I'm not going to make the glaringly obvious connection between the Empire and certain 20th Century totalitarian governments.
Fatchahhhhhh!!!!!! 😉
Yeah there were parts on the 2D version when the focus was very tight and everything else blurry
Like in a movie you mean. I'm finding effects based movies more and more of a chore to watch - they don't separate the foreground from the background. Its not a feature length computer game cut scene - the camera is supposed to be directing our attention to the action. I think a few scenes suffered from too much depth of field - the first time we see a star destroyer it looks like a little airfix model because so much of it is in focus.
the first time we see a star destroyer it looks like a little airfix model because so much of it is in focus.
I honestly thought that was probably a homage to the original opening scene in ANH. In all it's (charming) air-fix glory
3D irritated me when I wanted to look at 'background' and chief/front players were in forced focus- Q:Does this happen in 2D
That's cause its not proper 3D its not like a hologram its more like a pop up book so you see focussed what the camera was focussed on not what you personally might like to focus on.
I honestly thought that was probably a homage to the original opening scene in ANH. In all it's (charming) air-fix glory
Me too.
I've come to the conclusion that I don't like 3D, I'd rather see all the perspective and experience in the 3rd person, rather than the 3d trying to put you in the middle where you can't choose what to focus on
I enjoyed it, I'd like to watch it again for all the bits I missed
Just seen it. Mixed views. Agree on the whole 3D depth of field thing. Did feel a bit jumbled to begin with. Loved the android for comic relief.
I've come to the conclusion that I don't like 3D, I'd rather see all the perspective and experience in the 3rd person, rather than the 3d trying to put you in the middle where you can't choose what to focus on
The 3D ship sailed a long time ago for me, it's nothing like 650 😉
3D irritated me when I wanted to look at 'background' and chief/front players were in forced focus- Q:Does this happen in 2D version?
As said elsewhere the direcor uses focus to highlight something (or not) I think it was the Hateful 8 thats a great example of it.
As for everyone dies, thats how some things go they had the balls to do that.
As for editing you get the feeling there is a 4hr direcotrs cut just waiting to be set free!
I liked it. A lot.
I do wonder tho, if Gareth Edwards original cut was more in keeping with his style from monsters (a film I love) and Godzilla which wouldn't've really suited a star wars film.
I liked the callbacks. I loved the 2 gangsters causing trouble I guess they left shortly after.. there are plot holes.. like why destroy the mine you get your power from etc...
And I thought it was a brave decision to kill them all and Darth getting his evil on at the end worth the admission price alone.
PrinceJohn - Memberthere are plot holes.. like why destroy the mine you get your power from etc...
It's not a mine- it's a temple they were stripping the crystals from. Pretty reasonable to assume that job was done/mostly done.
I agree with the other comments the intro was a bit lack luster and didn't set the usual SW vibe but I don't know how else they could have done it as it is a side story so would be wrong maybe to have the full dramatics?
The story was good but it felt like it would have worked better if it was less disney and darker, chaotic times with rebels finding their feet I'd have liked to see a bit more grit.
Ending on the beach was pretty lame.. how did they have the pace to get to the beach frontage when the deathstar had already fired it's beam?
The CGI was so close to being great and then he spoke.. The princess and fighters didn't look bad though!
My fan theory was ruined... I thought the rebels would have turned into the Knights of Ren but theres no way they are going to the darkside or being picked up in doggy bags from around the planet... bugger.
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I loved every second of it. I'm not a huge SW geek, but this film kept me glued to the screen without a second going past that felt dragged out.
People have said its a bit too War-ish, but there's a reason for that. Loved the team that hit the Imperial library base, proper WW2/dirty dozen vibes.
I only bother going to the cinema for films like these and I do IMAX 3D. Felt I got my monies worth completely.
The screenplay for this was spot on (which is supported by the fact that it was approved first time without any alterations which pretty much never happens!). Droid was funny and well placed/kept to a minimum. Jyn is a great character, preferred to Ren. Grittier and more Rebellious in persona. Darth Vader scene ****ing killed it, but couldn't help feel he let those plans slip away a bit too easily....
Waiting for Han Solo and Darth Vader films now.
10/10. Better than Force Awakens and with a fraction of the hype before it's release.
the Knights of Ren
I think they are all playing in a band in this one
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You have to admire the speed with which the Empire improved the power of the Death Star to go from destroying a planet through a gradual chain reaction in Rogue One to the instantaneous destruction of Alderaan in A New Hope.
They weren't destroying planets in R1, just bits of them
That was only one third of the power of the death stars weapon we saw in rogue one.
Other idle thoughts, the Imperial dudes that stand right by where the laser fires must be on huge danger money and I'm still no clearer as to what the fella in the crow's nest at the rebel base does. Is he a lookout or some sort of speed cop?
haha the crows nest guy cracked me up too.. I just thought of mario!
The screenplay for this was spot on (which is supported by the fact that it was approved first time without any alterations which pretty much never happens!).
Not sure about this... there were so many bits mission from the trailers and reshoots?
Yep, apparently the whole end bit was reshot
I really enjoyed it, I felt it was far better than Force Awakens. Felt more like a view of the actual war that the rebels were fighting that you otherwise only get a glimpse of at Hoth in Empire and the fleet battle during the attack on the 2nd Deathstar in ROTJ.
While there was a lot of CGI I think they managed to keep the Episode IV-VI aesthetic that I-III dratiscally lacked. I felt leia was more obviously CGI than Tarkin (who took me a good 30 seconds to realised Cushing had been dead 20 years!)
I think it was a good move to kill everyone off, gives a sense of sacrifice to the rebellion and removes the question of why they are not present in ANH. I thought there were enough characters from IV-VI to carry continuity and mention of enough more that it felt like a proper prequel.
I did feel the use of a conveniently designed ship to push one Star Destroyer in to the other was a bit lame, I think that a supreme sacrifice ramming manoeuvre by one of the Rebel cruisers or frigates would have been more in keeping with the sacrifice aspect and less 'convenient' and achieved the same this with a bit more drama and emotion.
All in all I thought it was a good action film in keeping with Starwars Canon with only a few Disneyfi'ed moments (Coms cable etc etc).
Just saw it - not bad, but it was a bit worrying that the only character I really warmed to was the robot.
Not sure they tied it in very precisely with ep IV - Leia claiming to Vader she's on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan when he's just watched the ship come out of the shuttle bay of a rebel flagship in battle!
Also the whole 'send a message to get them to attack the gate' thing was utterly pointless. They were already attacking it!
Plus the AT-ATs seemed pretty much impervious to large cannons in Empire, but cut in half with ease by a bunch of X-wings here.
Good fun though.
I think the previous/older SW films haven't set the stage well in terms of 'realism' of some of the battle physics, IE. The xwings in R1 destroying the AT-ATs is more realistic in the sense that they would and should be able to do that.
I mentioned the screen play earlier being spot on, but meant it to be about the script. I heard the same about the load of re-shoots for some of the scenes mentioned above. I don't agree about the beginning being flat, thing is, people go to a Star Wars film expecting the signature dramatic intro, when really this isn't a film that's diving straight into the midst of it. This is a film about the rebellion just starting to kick off big time and getting that crucial bit of info on the old laser ball 😉 I don't need no Trumpet fan fare to get me in the mood. The scenery and detail of the shots is staggering and (from my POV) completely believeable. It's one of the many parts of the film that sticks in my mind. The stormtrooper laser gun fodder is funny. They just keep flooding out them doorways like a pack of lemmings!
Very, very good.
Great characters, loved the under-played start and the new locations, very little cheese and a satisfying lack of drawn-out show downs with a seemingly invincible baddie who somehow gets defeated.
basically it was all just a bit less obvious than the last movie, which I felt was good but disappointingly derivative.
Had an ominous feeling about two-thirds in that nobody was gonna make it out alive, and I think the lack of the usual dramatic escape scene was in keeping with the darker, more realistic tone of the movie.
My fave Star Wars movie, for sure.
CGI Leia was naff though.
Loved it.
B2SO or whatever it was struck the right balance of comedy character vs pointless addition for the kids.
Liked the grey area rebellion ethics. Good easter eggs with the bar guys and squadron leaders.
Downsides? Vader talked too fast, seemed to lack some of the presence. What else? Lack of Wedge making an appearance.
Geek points, second death star had its own faults too... being under the control of a bounty hunter droid Ai being one.
The computer games kind of cover more of the events till a new hope though which could redeem the this is a diplomatic mission bit
Have we done the [url= http://m.imgur.com/gallery/sZQUt ]leaked sequel spoiler photos [/url]yet?
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Really enjoyed the film tonight.
Amazing how they bought Peter Cushing back and Carrie Fisher right at the end.
Hope she's OK after her flight today and the bad news about her health
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38423963
Apparently they approached the actor who played Wedge Antilles and he said that he couldn't be arsed!!
Pretty reasonable to assume that job was done/mostly done.
That and they mentioned they were all gone.
I missed that one
Just seen it tonight.
For my money it's the fourth best Star wars film. You don't need to ask what the other 3 are. Why though?
In no particular order:
A relatively tight story. A wee bit of irrelevant twaddle but not as self indulgent as the prequels.
Limited gimmicks. K2SO could have been a jarjar binks but he was quirky without being irritating and I bonded with the character.
Minimal mystical bollocks. The Kung fu force monk was a sufficiently minor character and nicely under played so that he added to the story rather than making you think the whole thing was a foregone conclusion.
A dark ending. Those of us that grew up on the originals are old enough to take that and it won't do the kids any harm either.
No preternaturally talented children.
Half decent acting. By which I mean no Ewan MacGregor.
Saw it on Christmas Eve & really enjoyed it. Great new direction for the series to take. Actually rewatching The Force Awakens now & it is really suffering by comparison, just a poorly conceived/acted cheesy kiddy adventure film with added nostalgia "bonuses". So glad they kept JJ Abrams away from Rogue One!
Just watched it today. Loved it!
Leia claiming to Vader she's on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan when he's just watched the ship come out of the shuttle bay of a rebel flagship in battle!
We don't know how much time has passed since the end of that one and the beginning of ANH do we?
Good film though. Main point for me was the bleak reality of war and sacrifice. Pretty intense. Seeing all the characters you know going down one by one...
K-2SO is mates with TARS I reckon, certainly a similar sense of humour
Also, next off-shoot movie already sounds brilliant (and set before this one, just to confuse people even more)
Spin - MemberFor my money it's the fourth best Star wars film. You don't need to ask what the other 3 are
Phantom Menace, Caravan of Courage, and the Holiday Special obvs.
Interesting article here about the CGI recreation of old/dead actors...
[url= http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/12/rogue-one-digging-up-the-dead-in-the-uncanny-valley/ ]Gizmodo - Uncanny Valley[/url]
Enjoyed it, glad they didn't do the whole Hollywood thing of dragging out the tension in the 'will they, won't they' get the data files transmitted.
Have known they managed to do it for nearly 40 years.