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astrid · 2011-09-14T17:48:23Z

RIOTS IN ENGLAND/UPRISING OF THE UNHEARD RIOTS ARE THE VOICE OF THE UNHEARD Martin Luther King''Whilst many seek to pin the blame on the inevitable result of decades of oppression in under-privileged communities, the causes of the riots are swept under the rugs looted from Carpet Right. Inequality is at the heart of this. As long as the police see themselves as above the law, young people will take it into their own hands.'' JODY MCINTYRE/FROM BRIXTON TO TOTTENHAMWE ARE NO LONGER WILLING TO PUT UP WITH POLICE BRUTALITY OR RACISM ALONDRA NELSON ON TWITTER Dear Editor and readers, SUMMARY: In contrary with the British politicians and mainstream media, the riots in England are no ''mindless violence'' and ''criminal acts'', but the direct consequence of government cuts, which are especially damaging to poor neighbourhoods. decennialong social deprivation and often unpunished police violence. The methods [burning and looting] are wrong, the deadly victims unacceptable, but the fury about the yearlong police violence and the social injustice is legitimate This is the resistance of the unheard and humiliated, as Martin Luther King has stated [1] TIMELINE The riots were short, but vehement and took place from 6 untill 10th of august 2011 [2] What started in the multicultural underprivileged neighbourhood Tottenham [London North] as a peaceful protest against the police shooting of Mark Duggan [3], became a real uprising and spread in and outside London, especially in ciies in the Midlands and North West of England [4] Those riots, which started in Tottenham, are often compared with the Tottenham riots, which took place in 1985 Direct cause was also a death by police violence Also in this case the viictim was black Tottenham/October 1985 The Broadwater Farm riots After the arrest of a young black man, Floyd Jarrett, his house was been searched by the police, which led to a confrontation between the police and Jarrets family members. In the commotion, his 49-year-old mother, Cynthia Jarrett, fell over and died almost instantly Later the police was criticized about the way the home searching took place [5] After the death of Cynthia Jarrett the socalled Broadwater Farm riots spread, which costed the life of a policeman, Keith Blakelock [6] A week before the death of Cynthia Jarrett another black woman, Dorothy Cherry Groce, was shot in her home by the police and was paralysed below the waist for the rest of her life The direct cause was the police searching of her son Michael Groce, who was suspected of fitearms offence Her shooting was followed by the Brixton riots in 1985 [7] Tottenham 2011 Direct cause was the police shooting of Mark Duggan, a father of four at 4th august in an attempt to arrest him. The police sho shot him were part of the Specialist Firearms Command [CO19], accompanying officers from ''Operation Trident'', a London Metropolitan police Unit which deals with ''guncrime in the black community'' Immediately after the fatal shooting the police spread the runour [which was promoted by the media], that Duggan had fired at the police. However, ballistic investigation showed, that Duggan didn't fire at the police at all [8] What really infuriated the people was the lack of respect the police showed to a peaceful protest of family and friends of Mark Duggan to Tottenham Police Station No information whatsoever had been given about the cause of his death The parents of Mark Duggan found out how he died from the press Two days later [9] REACTION OF THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT AND POLITICIANS ON THE RIOTS MORAL DECLINE? WHOSE? Members of Parliament: Striking is, that all British political parties, from conservative to ''progressive'' left were unanimous in condemning the riots as ''criminal'' or ''mindless'' [10] Often without any reference to underlying causes or the fact, that this was no isolated outburst of fury, but based on years of protests from mainly black underprivileged neighbourhoods Those who did refer to social backgrounds [like financial cuts], nevertheless called for extreme measures to end the riots [11] A courageous reaction came fron Labour MP John Mc Donnel, who stated: ''“MPs and their expenses, bankers and their bonuses, tax evading corporations” had created a “society of looters”. [12] State/Government: It was no suprise, that State reaction was extremely repressive Prime minister Cameron laid all ugly cards on the table He called the rioters ''criminals'' and the riots ''moral decline'' He spoke about ''culture of fear in the streets'', neglecting the fact, that the years of violent police action had caused a culture of fear among the inhabitants of underprivileged black neighbourhoods His measures were tough enough 16000 policemen were sent to London He threatened to use the watercannon, which was never used in England [although it was a common measure of repression in Northern Ireland] The use of the rubber bullet also belonged to the possibilities His most extreme statement was, that th...

Elfinsafety

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No; the Tories are already in government, Markie...

Posted : 14/09/2011 8:54 pm

Markie

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😀

Posted : 14/09/2011 8:55 pm

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Can we ban all posts over 50 words (which is about 30 more than my attention span)?

Posted : 14/09/2011 8:56 pm

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When I look at that utter gobshite deluded nonsense of a post, and think the OP might believe it? The looting of trainers and PS3s was so far from the sixth form marxist society claptrap spouted above, you might as well have been trying to explain squirrel hibernation by referring to the evolution from co-ax cables to HDMI, the point is missed so badly. Reminds me a lot too of that deluded Norwegian nutter Anders Breivek's manifesto. Open your eyes to the real world or get medical help.

Posted : 14/09/2011 9:00 pm

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When I look at that utter gobshite deluded nonsense of a post

Funny, cos I don't actually see you offering up any supreme wisdom at all.

Did you actually read owt of the OP? Or just a little bit, then allow your sensibilities to get all twitchy and your knickers become twisted?

I don't see the OP insulting anyone here, so why insult them?

Why not just ignore it if it's something you don't like, or at least attempt to engage in intelligent debate, rather than resorting to the cop out of 'I don't understand this propperly/agree with this person's point of view so I'll just act all superior and belittle and denigrate them'?

Posted : 14/09/2011 9:16 pm

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bleeding-heat liberals

Reminds me - I must get the new loft insulation sorted before winter.

Posted : 14/09/2011 9:35 pm

midlifecrashes

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Well I admit it isn't normally my style to insult, but the OP insulted our intelligence from the start. I might engage in intelligent debate with them but they have so many chips on their shoulders it would take the combined efforts of Eric Pickles and John Prescott noshing on them for a month before the OP could stand up straight to do it. It's not an invitation to debate, it's a cut and paste identikit pseudo socialist mindfart which doesn't argue anything new and seeks to conflate Winston Silcott, Rodney King and dweebs on facebook just because they have a keyword "riot" in a google search and is just plain wrong in that regard. The looting happened because it was allowed and idiots were unrestrained, not because of ideology. (I except the original Duggan family vigil from this, but it wasn't those people who rioted either.)

Posted : 14/09/2011 9:43 pm

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a cut and paste identikit pseudo socialist mindfart

Marvellous!

Posted : 14/09/2011 9:50 pm

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The looting happened because it was allowed and idiots were unrestrained, not because of ideology.

What a wonderfully intelligent and insightful somethingion of what occurred.

I'm surprised you're not on Newsnight as an 'expert' on such matters.

Funny, I thought there were far more complex underlying social issues which were behind the anger whcih was the spark for such mindless violence and lawlessness, but according to you, it was just something that happened. Just like that.

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the OP insulted our intelligence from the start

I think personally they may actually have overestimated the intelligence of some....

Posted : 14/09/2011 9:57 pm

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Look at the targets, Watches, Plasmas, Xbox, Nikes. Bottles of water?

No, not mindless violence. Small minded violence.

Posted : 14/09/2011 10:04 pm

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Sorry, just catching up with some Glastonbury backlog, watching Beyoncé shaking her booty. Did I miss anything?

Posted : 15/09/2011 1:48 am

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So which STW member is the trolling astrid then?

Posted : 15/09/2011 1:52 am

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7/10, a promising start. Good use of capitals but let down by lack of swearing, timeliness and occasional incomprehensibility. The topic was a bit too obvious as well - what you really need is a topic that is superficially not terribly controversial but will degenerate into accusations of racism/Communism/antediluvianism/ignorance or preferably a combination of all four. Perhaps the tax deductability of interest on mortgage payments might be "sleeper" troll.

You do, however, get credit for using footnotes in a rant. I think that's a STW first.

Posted : 15/09/2011 4:01 am

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Fred/elfin/talk/[b]astrid's[/b] right; JJB were providing the police college at Hendon with training kit, and the looting of their stores was a brilliant example of plucky inner-city youths striking back at the apparatus of the current oppressive regime.
Pass the tinfoil.

Posted : 15/09/2011 4:52 am

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They're coming to get you Duckman

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