[Closed] Pulled for speeding, but I wasn't speeding. What can I do?

theocb - Member

Contest the ticket then sit back and wait for the letter telling you the paperwork has been lost.

Or worst case scenario please fill in this form then triplicate it by posting it to three different locations, then duplicate the form again to other departments. In the meantime please comply with the rules of application by reading this 400 pages instruction on website. Opps the website is down and it is not our responsibility but the IT dept so please contact the IT dept. IT dept has acknowledged the problem and will get back to you in no time. In the meantime please select options ... 😆

iffoverload - Member

and more importantly trying to point out why a seemingly trivial increase in speed makes a big difference.

Absolutely, I know your good intention but to be frank you lot in UK drive like speed demon with plenty of last minute heavy braking ... clam down will you. I think the speedo meter should switch to international standard of KM rather than Mph. 😀

Things to never ever start a STW thread on...

Speeding, speed tickets or driving quickly
Alcohol and driving
What 4x4 to drop the kids off at school
Motorway lane hogging

It never ends well

loddrik - Member

I already said I wasn't doing 35, they SAID I was, hence my grievance, I know I wasn't doing 35. If they give me a ticket for doing 33 well that's my carelessness, but saying I was doing 35 in a 30 is wrong, hence why I want to appeal.

"Your honour, I wish to make a special defence, that while I was committing the offence I was charged with, I was doing it by a slightly different amount". It's like that time I murdered 4 people but when the arrested me they only charged me with 3 murders, it took [i]ages[/i] to convince them about the 4th one. Mugs.

If it had been 5:30pm on Gt Homer St you would probably been the slowest thing on there!
Were you going in or out of town as your 3 light get away coming out would have only been over about 300 meters if you went across Islington?

I'm guessing the pulling away from them bit probably sealed your fate though they must have been very slow away from the lights to get out dragged by a black cab!!

Northwind - Member

"Your honour, I wish to make a special defence, that while I was committing the offence I was charged with, I was doing it by a slightly different amount". It's like that time I murdered 4 people but when the arrested me they only charged me with 3 murders, it took ages to convince them about the 4th one. Mugs.

"Your honour, Northwind just came up with absurd an example of escalating his claim on the road at 0530hr. I am not sure why he is up so early but I think he is out to murder some drivers for driving on an empty road." 😆

Going on a policewoman's word is just not acceptable IMO

you seem particularly ticked off about being given a ticket by women. I'd probably drop that attitude if you go to court!

MTFU you were speeding. Take it and get on with life, next time consider not speeding.

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But more than 30mph?

Unless you know for a fact that your speedo over reads then you were playing with fire if you knew that they were following you. Saying the cab pulls away quickly is not going to help you with this.
Suck it up and hope for a speed awareness course. Don't even think about airing your grievances during the course as you will be thrown out and then get the points, the fine, still pay for the course and lose a days work.
Yes it is harsh but you were exceeding the limit. My brother got 3 points for doing 34mph, down hill, whilst driving an empty double decker bus, early on a Sunday morning.

70mph motorway speed limits were introduced in 1965, I own a Morris Minor which was built in 1963.

So, if I drove my Morris Minor at 70mph (If it could get up to that speed!) I wonder how safe that would be compared to a modern car doing 90mph in the same situation?

Has car safety not improved over the years? So why have the speed limits not increased also?

Has car safety not improved over the years? So why have the speed limits not increased also?

Cab pulls away quickly?

Huh? My car has a special function whereby I can control the rate of acceleration with a floor pedal. It means I am in full control of my speed.

You should get one with that device. It's great...

The major contributing factor to accidents has not improved, it's located between the seat and the steering wheel.

You might spot a few differences though between your modern cars and old banger like mine, things like seat belts, working brakes, tires that handle, air bags, crumple zones, not to mention my steering wheels that is designed to decapitate you in an accident? 😉

Ski... Also something to do with accident survival rates. Pedestrians/cyclists run over above 30 are much more likely to die than if hit at lower speeds. There's a massive difference in survival rates between 25 and 35mph.

air bags, crumple zones, not to mention my steering wheels that is designed to decapitate you in an accident?

So, OP, how accurate is your speedo with new tyres and with worn tyres, as your rolling radius could be different by up to 6mm. And you are assuming that your speedo fits the +10% rule which is an allowable tolerance not a programmed in error.

Suck it up.

Has the OP clarified whether or not he can go on a driver awareness course? It'd mean he avoids the points and that seemed to be his main concern.

I am still wondering why you were going over the limit at all - it is a [b][i][u]LIMIT[/u][/i][/b] so going at 29 would have been safe, especially with the police around.

I get so hacked off with people complaining that they broke the law and got caught - "but I was only breaking the law a bit ...)

MTFU

Worrying that some people on here are defending speeding. Have a look around people, it's a cycle forum. Wesshould be driving slower and being more considerate. Oh and the 5:30 excuse is bollox. That's the time shift workers would be cycling to work. Paperboys on bmx with no lights are they fair game then?

I think if I was traffic police and following someone who drove at 33mph despite my presence I'd pull them for being so brazen, definitely suck it up, you were speeding (thinking you were safe because it was only a few mph is just stupid).

The road loddrik got nicked on is a hotspot for coppers as there is a copshop further up the road ,I think they were a bit harsh....

something fishy- just doesn't make sense. Why would they bother with a 35? Sure you didn't freak her and make her almost hit the kerb?

I was pulled for overtaking a Police car (holding me up). Err oops 🙂

He just said 'naughty, don't do it again'.

The OP can do a speed awareness course if he has a clean licence but it is a discretionary option not a right.
Most of us have been nicked for speeding. I recently got caught out by a short stretch of 40 mph limit on a a mainly 50mph road, it was very early on a Sunday morning but I was speeding. Did I moan about it? No, I took the points, paid the fine and tried to be more observant.
When I was young and stupid I got a 3 page summons as I had been "pursued" for 20 miles and pretty much doubled every speed limit. I had no idea that I was being pursued. Like I said, young, stupid and unbreakable. It went to court and I pleaded guilty. The Magistrate asked for an explanation and I replied "Youthful over exuberance, Sir"
All 3 Magistrates raised an eyebrow and gave me 3 points and £100 fine. I was incredibly lucky but I didn't try and fight the system because even if I hadn't doubled the limits, I knew I was speeding.

[i]Most of us have been nicked for speeding[/i]

I've been lucky for the 30 years I've had a driving licence and got away with a couple of talking too's.

I'm under no illusion it'll last for ever and I do my best to observe the speed limits in built up areas (although Brighton being largely 20mph now makes it more difficult, if I'm honest).

voodoo_chile - Member
The road loddrik got nicked on is a hotspot for coppers as there is a copshop further up the road ,I think they were a bit harsh....

70mph motorway speed limits were introduced in 1965, I own a Morris Minor which was built in 1963.

So, if I drove my Morris Minor at 70mph (If it could get up to that speed!) I wonder how safe that would be compared to a modern car doing 90mph in the same situation?

Has car safety not improved over the years? So why have the speed limits not increased also?

Good bit of film on my speed awareness course

They got a modern car to brake from 70mph when it crossed a line and then put a cone in the road where it stopped

They then got the same car to brake from the same line at 100mph. It then hit the cone still going at over 70mph

Secondly here is busy 1960s Motorway

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why have we not decreased the speed limits to allow for busier roads?

Thirdly I would rather the increase in car safety meant roads were safer not faster.

I also choose not to squander the increase in car efficiency on greater speed rather than lower per mile consumption

Damn I'm ranting

Most of us have been nicked for speeding

No. Most of us have upto prescription glasses or eye test. Unless of course the coppers under your nose 8)

Nope, driving for 26 years (where did that go ????) and not had a point

[i]driving for 26 years[/i]

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and not fallen asleep at the wheel yet?

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Has car safety not improved over the years? So why have the speed limits not increased also?

In 1966, 7985 people were killed on our roads. In 2013 it was 1793.

Why do you want to go backwards?

why have we not decreased the speed limits to allow for busier roads?

Also, has nobody thought of the utter futility of arguing with a black cab driver? He's right. And that's it.
Now let me tell you about the time I had Rooney in he cab no tip or ought the tight bugger.....
And in slightly more serious response to the op, you are bloody kidding right? What difference does it make to whether it was 31 or 35 you were caught at. On another day, maybe you wouldn't have been done for 45, however, you were so suck it up. If you were adamant you were not speeding I may have a bit of sympathy, but to argue that you were not as far over as you caught at seems a little stupid.

To get more flow of traffic through the same stretch of road actually needs everyone to speed up. If you close 2 lanes on a motorway, the only way to get all the vehicles through without causing a hold up is to triple the speed in the remaining lane so triple the cars can travel on the stretch of carriageway in the same time frame. So, increase the limit to 210mph

and not fallen asleep at the wheel yet?

Maybe the next STW poll should be have you ever been nicked for speeding?
I have 13 other people with me now and 9 of them have at some time been caught. Not a scientific data set but I reckon that equals a majority or most of us.

n 1966, 7985 people were killed on our roads. In 2013 it was 1793.

Better medical/trauma care would play a huge part.

People love to say 'cars have airbags etc'. I'd also say the emergency services and immediate care in hospital play a big part too.

If your caught speeding once- it says to me SLOW DOWN. You dont have the awareness skills to travel at faster speeds obviously.

Surprised by how many people think it's ok/morally justified/amusing/safe to 'annoy' other drivers by deliberately driving below the speed limit.

Unless there are adverse weather conditions or hazards there is no reason to drive 5 or 10 mph under the limit. The limits have been set by the authorities to be a safe driving speed, not some arbitrary figure you just come up with.

People seem to think there are just 2 camps, those who speed with no regard for anyone else, and those who drive safely by going slower than they need to. There are those of us who observe speed limits and want to maintain some flow to traffic and progress safely

Going out of your way to annoy other road users is just odd. Maybe you get bossed around at home or work and need to exert some power another way, whatever it is, it's hardly safe driving

[i]The limits have been set by the authorities to be a safe driving speed,[/i]

Nope.

The National Speed Limit is not intended to be a target, rural roads should be driven according to the road width, distance you can see to be clear etc not 60mph 'cos that's the limit mate'.

deliberately driving below the speed limit.

It's a limit, not a requirement

[b]The limits[/b] have been set by the authorities to be a safe driving speed

Surprised by how many people think it's ok/morally justified/amusing/safe to 'annoy' other drivers by deliberately driving below the speed limit.

You sound like one of those people who tailgates people driving marginally below the limit, as punishment for making you 1.5 seconds late.

For me- if you dont see a speed camera and your caught, you obviously wouldn't notice anything thats not painted bright yellow or very large signs warning. You can't process such obviuos things at a higher speed then it should be a wake up call.

Regardless of how fancy your company car is- you aren't as talented as you think. Drive to the conditions AND your personal ability.

What did Jackie Stewart once say? Two things you can't question about a man; his love making and driving skills?

I would say your crumple zone and the enforce wearing of seat belts had a lot to do with it.

I used to spend a lot of time at a breakers yard that dealt exclusively with insurance company's and write offs.

You would see cars that you knew there was no way someone was surviving that but also there would be older cars that were written off with relatively minor damage but there would always be few with spiders web smash in the screen with hair and flesh embedded even on some with what looked like minor front damage, the sort you would expect to drive around and see two people exchanging details.

I have a freind with a curved spine and no front teeth from exiting his car through the windscreen.
Cars have got a lot safer, which is a good thing, not an excuse to make driving more dangerous again by increasing speed limits.

You sound like one of those people who tailgates people driving marginally below the limit, as punishment for making you 1.5 seconds late.

I don't tailgate

I don't like people driving slower than is necessary without reason

Like I said in my original post, people seem to think there are two camps, crazed speeding lunatics, or people who drive at 25mph

I do get annoyed at people driving slower than is necessary without reason

I didn't know you were Professor Charles Xavier and you could read other motorist's minds and know why they were driving at a particular speed?

I was referring to people who do it to 'annoy' other drivers as I said in my original post

If someones driving slow- overtake them. Or is that a dirty word?