[url= http://www.apple.com/iphone/design/ ]http://www.apple.com/iphone/design/[/url]
oooh, it's anodized 🙂
I wonder if they'll do it in purple for the retro mtb crowd
Dave
I'm not impresed, they've still not fixed my email 🙁
Still no water/shockproofing, shame. My Defy is getting tired and none of the major players want to make a lifeproof phone with up to date tech and software.
I'm not due an upgrade from my 4s until next year so this announcement doesn't really make much difference to me really.
But, while I'm not an apple fanboi, I do love my iPhone, size included, and have bought into a few accesories for it, so I'll be inerested to see how the backwards compatibility works for the connector as I will be looking to change my phone next year.
On the size thing, I've had a play with a friends S3 and I found it to be too big, yes the screen was nice and easy to read, but I would hate to have to carry one around in my pocket all the time, especially as I usually carry two phones - personal and work - and together they just wouldn't fit in one pocket!
Put it in a lifeproof case then . The defy was old technology when it was new ! Never mind now.
The new [url= http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/MOTOROLA-DEFY™-XT/m-DEFYXT,en_US,pd.html ]Defy XT[/url] is shipping in the US. If it does not make it over to the UK, there is always the slightly lower spec [url= http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/GB-EN/Consumer-Products-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/MOTOROLA-DEFY-MINI-GB-EN ]Defy Mini.[/url]
*tiresome glitchy bump*
For the record, I'm REALLY glad it's not much bigger. Those big smartphones are too much for me, to big for a pocket.
Looks to be a similar size to my S2 which I've had no problems with. I'm currently in the "would like a bigger screen" camp, but that's only really for home use and everything's a compromise then. I had a brief look at a galaxy note recently and thought jesus that thing is enormous! Pretty sure the S3 is pocket size though. The cheaper tablets coming out might mean reasonable size phone + tablet is a better bet.
Kryton57 - Member
On a serious note, I'm getting a 4s upgrade. Its the right size for my pocket (unlike the S3), does more than what I need and in 2 years when my contract ends I'll be bang in the firing line for tried and tested 4G handsets.
Have you actually tried it or just assumed? I have a Gal Nex which is .2 of an inch smaller and it fits easily into jeans, work trousers etc.
I own several Apple devices - not sure what I was expecting but this feels pretty 'meh'. Hopefully the 4S will be relatively cheap when my 3GS contract comes up at the end of October.
I own several Apple devices - not sure what I was expecting but this feels pretty 'meh'. Hopefully the 4S will be relatively cheap when my 3GS contract comes up at the end of October.
I just went from a 3GS to the 4 and it [i]feels[/i] like an upgrade. Not sure if 4/4S > 5 would be such a satisfying jump.
I own several Apple devices - not sure what I was expecting but this feels pretty 'meh'. Hopefully the 4S will be relatively cheap when my 3GS contract comes up at the end of October.
Yeah I know what you mean. But I only ever have 18month contracts so I went to sim only for a few months as I couldn't see the point in upgrading to a 4s from a 4. And being as the 5 is the same price as the 4s I'm glad i waited. It's only ever going to be incremental improvements wherever you go I suppose.
Looks like I'll be getting a Nexus 7 then.
You realise the Nexus 7 is a tablet, not a phone (i.e. not something I was expecting the iPhone to compete with?)
had a brief look at a galaxy note recently and thought jesus that thing is enormous
Yeah that is absurdly large for my taste. If I mounted one of those on my bars it would act as a spoiler!
FWIW I quite like the size of my current iPhone. Any bigger feels a bit too cumbersome to me and wouldn't fit in my suit pocket.
You realise the Nexus 7 is a tablet, not a phone (i.e. not something I was expecting the iPhone to compete with?)
I think fervouredimage was hoping for a 7" iPad announcement, hence stating he was going to go for a Nexus 7 now.
...although I could be mistaken.
So when are apple going to copy widgets? That's my favourite thing about android?
So when are apple going to copy widgets? That's my favourite thing about android?
Hopefully never. I don't really understand why folk like having apps running all the time on-screen, sucking the battery dry for no real reason.
I think fervouredimage was hoping for a 7" iPad announcement, hence stating he was going to go for a Nexus 7 now.
Ah right. Nah they won't announce that till the event in October.
because they're really useful. ymmv...
I just googled widgets to see what I was missing, and it appears they make your home screen into a horrific unreadable mess.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/hiner/15-android-widgets-that-will-make-iphone-users-jealous/5649
FWIW I quite like the size of my current iPhone. Any bigger feels a bit too cumbersome to me and wouldn't fit in my suit pocket.
It took me a while to get used to the size of the S2 and I do mostly use it with 2 hands, but I have stubby fingers. Speaking of which, the image from apple (think on the BBC site) claiming that the 5 was perfect for single hand use.... Hmm, you'd need the fing-longer 🙂
Still not [i]quite[/i] getting where you people buy your clothes though. Ooompa-loompa land?
Will have to pocket a Note I think, cos I can't justify spending £300 or more on a tablet.
After having an S2 for ages I was thinking of "upgrading" to a 5 but my iPad 3 has put me off buying anything ios powered for good.
(takes iPad to classifieds.....)
but my iPad 3 has put me off buying anything ios powered for good.
How so?
I do mostly use it with 2 hands
See that's a pain too. Makes it very difficult to text while driving.
Still not quite getting where you people buy your clothes though. Ooompa-loompa land?
Can you fit the S2 in the inside pocket of a suit jacket, without it looking like your packing heat?
Hopefully never. I don't really understand why folk like having apps running all the time on-screen, sucking the battery dry for no real reason.
I just googled widgets to see what I was missing, and it appears they make your home screen into a horrific unreadable mess.
I find it really helpful on my home screen to be able to turn wif/3g/gps & change the mode from silent to vibrate with one press & to access my music straight away. Having played with an iphone I'd find it really annoying to be have to faff around with menus to get these.
Huge Apple fan here, but I'm waiting for the new Nokias to become available - they look much more interesting. iPhone 5 seems very much like the 4s which was very much like the 4, which was quite cool when it came out, but everyone has caught up now (and even passed them).
my iPad 3 has put me off buying anything ios powered for good.
Blimey. I think the iPad is amazing. In fact that's exactly what I'm replying on right now.
My home computer use is now roughly 60% iPad, 38% iPhone, 2% "real" computer (Windows/Linux PC, laptop or netbook).
What did you find so objectionable?
Grum - personal preference, it just bugs me.
The two things that hadn't been leaked that would have made the 5 a "buy now" option for me were a sexy looking edge to edge screen in an original iPhone sized casing and an NFC chip for a bit of future proofing. Neither materialised.
Long battery life will be welcome if it is true though.
As it is it looks nice but I'm not convinced I want it enough to upgrade from my 4 and I'm also not sure if I want it as my phone for the next 2 years.
Wait and see until I hold one I think.
Grum - personal preference, it just bugs me.
Oh go on, gives us a bit more detail.
S3 for me I think. free upgrade, and less than 30 quid a month for free data, and £150 for selling my iPhone...no brainer
I think I'll swap my 4 for a 4S purely for the better camera, then sit happy waiting for the next 'jump' in phones. evolution not revolution means waiting for several models before the big spend is worth while. Of course, this leaves more money for bike bits!
Don't like my iPad2 either. Android just so much better/intuitive. When have the spare money I'll be getting rid and buying an android tablet
Can you fit the S2 in the inside pocket of a suit jacket, without it looking like your packing heat?
Presumably yes. Weapons have come a long way but I think they still have to be wider than the projectiles. No real world experience though, as I don't ever wear a suit 🙂
Don't like my iPad2 either. Android just so much better/intuitive.
Each to their own and all that - I don't think I'm a 'fanboy' (see my above post about the 5) - but I find it odd that people would dislike the iPad.
Just caught up on the details. Seems like evolution rather than revolution. Still, I suppose, if it ain't broke...
Surprised no-one's mentioned the new CPU. That seems like the biggest deal to me.
Don't like my iPad2 either. Android just so much better/intuitive.
Blasphemy! 😆
(my 2 year old can work my iPad. Perhaps more impressively my father-in-law can too. Not sure how much more intuitive you could possibly want?)
So to summarise:
thinner, lighter, with a bigger/better screen, bigger battery, much faster CPU, 4G/LTE support, better camera, better video, better speakers and better microphones.
Okay so it can't fly or turn you into Bradley Wiggins, but it all sounds like a pretty good upgrade to me. And that's just the hardware.
Same thing happened with the 4s. I think people expect so much of Apple these days that unless a new iPhone is mind-blowingly revolutionary then it is a disappointment. Ah well.
For me, it was all about iOS 6 UI being overhauled. I guess my dissapointment with the early betas was justified. Ah well. At least I have tab syncing...
Cougar - MemberSurprised no-one's mentioned the new CPU. That seems like the biggest deal to me.
Its a good chipset, now running a 28 nanometre process as opposed to the 4S's 40 nanometre processor.....should help with battery life, less heat etc....it jumps ahead of the quad-core offerings who are on 32nm chipsets currently, my HTC One-S is also on a 28nm chipset and i get great battery life with that so things look good for the iphone-5 on that front.
The only fly in the ointment for battery life will be 4G data, speak to a smartphone user in the US and ask how fast 4G drains their phone's battery....its horrific.
GrahamS - Member
I don't really understand why folk like having apps running all the time on-screen, sucking the battery dry for no real reason.
Personal preference, some like the uniform layout of iOS where you have to go into menus or open apps to do anything and others like the live Widgets feature of Android where you can have information changing in real time on the home screen without having to go into the full app.
On my home screen i have a Twitter feed, a BBC news headlines feed and Facebook reduced to about quarter screen size, obviously they use battery but nowhere near as much as people think....as i type this my HTC One-S is on 58% battery having been on for 16hrs so far, i regularly get 2 days use from a charge.
The problem was never the Android OS but rather the hardware at the time, small batteries and inefficient chipsets running the phones gave terrible battery life so people naturally blamed the OS....finally batteries and processors are powerful enough to run smartphones with few (if any) problems any more.
I think it's a good update, could be tempted now the iphone has Sat-Nav built in, that was the one glaring hole for me before.
As others have said, it is very hard for any manufacturer to make anything revolutionary....a modern smartphone does it all....personal organiser, sat-nav, email, text, calls, web browser, games, kindle/electronic books, NFC payments etc etc....what else do we want from a smartphone?
Pretty much what grum and Jamie said, first got a 3 and yeah it laid out what a phone should be, then got a 4 and sort of an improvement, but the 5.....well, meh looks ok, not in any rush to upgrade
could be tempted now the iphone has Sat-Nav built in, that was the one glaring hole for me before.
I've got FOUR sat navs on my iPhone 4 (2 car and 2 bike), all of which were free.
Don't really understand why built-in is a big deal?
NFC payments
NFC does seem to be notably absent from the 5. Odd given the new wallet app. 😕
What you need to ask yourself is, is this really the best they have to offer? They don't have anything sat waiting ready for the five S or whatever it will be, I'm pretty sure they do have something up their sleeve, and that makes it annoying. It's no longer about being cutting edge, and more about landing a new iPhone around the same time as everyone who bought the last one is due an upgrade.
*[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/mods-can-you-fix-the-new-page-glitch-please ]glitchy bump[/url]*
more about landing a new iPhone around the same time as everyone who bought the last one is due an upgrade.
Meantime other people criticise Apple for having such a slow refresh cycle compared to Samsung or HTC.
They can't win.
Integrated sat-nav (if Apple has done it properly) is so much better than 3rd party apps....google a place/restaurant/shop etc and tap 'directions' which invariably come up just below whatever you searched for in the search results on google, hey presto the maps function of the OS opens up automatically showing the location of whatever you just googled, then tap on navigation and get instant sat-nav to whatever it is you just googled....you didnt need to open maps or sat-nav seperately, no typing addresses into a 3rd party app, seamless integrated maps and sat-nav in the OS is superb and something i use most days at work, i wouldnt have considered an iphone all the time this was missing.
If the Apple version is fully integrated like Google Chrome to Google Maps to Google Navigation then it will be great, otherwise they may as well have just left it like before where the user finds 3rd party nat-nav apps instead.
Just to confirm an s3 fits fine in the pocket. Widgets are awesome.
Surprised at no nfc or wireless charging though. But they don't actually have to try that hard do they.
