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I reckon the CIA will resurrect Brodie as a zombie
Might tape it..just to see if Brodies wife gets her kit off again.
I'm half way through series 2 at the moment. The introspective Carrie mental health issues are becoming a little tiresome. Please tell me it gets better?
Don't know..I gave up.
Stay with it geoffj. Just finished series 3 last week. Brilliant tv
Tonights was a typically great start- it's pretty edgy, by mainstream US terms at least...the only thing is, I missed the first 5 minutes and can't remember what happened at the end of last season...Brody is...dead!?
Yep... and they've cut out everything that ruined the last couple of seasons...
Including his bloody whinging daughter!
they've cut out ... his bloody whinging daughter!
Good. Will continue to watch this then. She was the Jar Jar Binks of the show.
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Was it me, or was the bit where Carrie and thingy drove in on their own to rescue that bloke who ended up getting stomped, pretty silly and unrealistic?
Very silly and unrealistic - there would be world war 3 if the Iranians executed an American Government agent.
Hell yeah...
Watched it last night and thought just about everything about it was completely ridiculous. Not that thats necessarily a bad thing though.
[i]Very silly and unrealistic[/i]
[i]Not that thats necessarily a bad thing though.[/i]
True! It was the best bit ๐
If they were brave enough to let him blow everyone up at the end of the first series and ended it there it would have been better.
+1If they were brave enough to let him blow everyone up at the end of the first series and ended it there it would have been better.
Soo what I liked (I use the term advisably) is that they put a CIA agent with known mental problems into a front line, press the button & innocent people die situation...
then wonder why it all goes down the proverbial ๐
Septics - what could possibly go wrong?......
DaRC_L - Mrs Binners reaction to the first 5 minutes was 'what... so she was absolutely hatstand bonkers at the end of last serious, but now she's in charge of everything? In a war zone? That seems pretty realistic'
'what... so she was absolutely hatstand bonkers at the end of last serious, but now she's in charge of everything? In a war zone? That seems pretty realistic'
But you have to admit, it would explain a lot ...
Actually..... makes perfect sense
Right, so Homeland. I'm still watching it, but really wondering why... is it me, or has this series turned totally stupid and shit?
It would better if they killed Carey (or however it's spelt) off
And as Im watching it a week in advance I could post a spoiler about my theory about a character
You mean the one from Spooks? I reckon he'll turn out to be on Carey's side.
Episode 7 was quite good.
[i]It would better if they killed Carey off[/i]
Yeah, but she's all it's about now!
good bits, bad bits.
don't like Carey, but I'm not sure you're supposed to.
I like it.
We watched about 15 minutes of episode 1 this season and gave up. It was great with Brody in it, but without him (and the associated plotlines) it's just a CIA drama. Not a bad thing, but not really what I liked about it!
No, Brody
Oops
you should have kept watching njee20, it got better. not as good admittedly.
Stopped about 2 episodes into season 3 , It got really tiresome very quickly.
This season is turning out far better than season 3, which was one season too many with Brody.
robgclarksonThis season is turning out far better than season 3, which was one season too many with Brody.
I would agree with that. Typical American hit series - why have a concise, exciting story when we can string it out for an extra year with lots of extraneous filler and melodrama. Call it character development. I think the Brody storyline had gone well beyond the boundaries of believability.
[i]..the Brody storyline had gone well beyond the boundaries of believability[/i]
Are you watching the latest one? Believability??! Carey's seduction of that kid?
Carey in general. It's such utter nonsense!
I think I'll spend my last waking hour on a Sunday watching something less [i]silly[/i].
hmm.. just had a thought. Maybe I did only watch the previous series for Mrs. Brodie...
It was only supposed to have one series with Brody in it, but Damian Lewis was so good, they kept him in it. Series 4 is how it was originally intended to be, CIA spooks drama....
For Alex Gansa, the showโs co-creator alongside Howard Gordon, putting the focus firmly back on Mathison was the natural progression. โWeโd always intended to show Mathison in the field โ it was supposed to happen in season two but the response to Brody was so strong,โ he says. โWhile Damian is a huge loss, Brodyโs death has brought a big chapter of Homeland to a close and forced us to push forward into new territories. Howard and I always envisaged Homeland as a show about one particular character, Carrie, and this season gives us a chance to go back to that.โ
DezBAre you watching the latest one? Believability??! Carey's seduction of that kid?
Carey in general. It's such utter nonsense!
Compared to the Brody storyline with it's dozens of twists, I find it's a bit more grounded in some reality. If I recall correctly Carrie originally seduced Brody purely as a means to an end, so her doing it again is at least plausible. It looks like they are trying to draw her as a character willing to do anything to accomplish her goals and then see how far the audience will buy into that. It might not be documentary accurate, but it's not supposed to be, it's entertainment.
On a side note, apparently there is/was a real life CIA operative who was the inspiration for both Carrie and Maya from Zero Dark Thirty. I wonder if she used similar recruitment techniques in real life.
Utter pish - my wife still watches it, but for me it lost all credibility when the Iranians killed Brodie.
This season is rubbish. Carrie has become a much less sympathetic character and one-dimensional. Saul having a smaller and less pivotal role and the lack of Brodie has had a massive negative impact.
Yeah I guess the reason we didn't persist with it was that it felt like a new programme starting season 4, and one which didn't grab us. Not saying it's not good, but I'm basically happy to consider it finished at the end of Season 3!
We stuck with it until the third episode, hoping it might pick up, when Mrs Binners helpfully pointed out, even before the first ad break: "this is absolutely shite!"
She's rarely wrong, and she was spot on this time!
Sounds like there's a lot on here will be glad I'macelebritygetmeoutofhere is back, I'll stick to daft incomprehensible TV's shows where people often end up with a bullet in the head as opposed to where you just wish they would.
Good for you! Let us know if anything remotely plausible happens, won't you?
In return I'll keep you posted on how Mel Sykes is getting on. Its only fair ๐
[i]Carrie originally seduced Brody purely as a means to an end, so her doing it again is at least plausible[/i]
Yeah, but Brody was a ginger 'American'. The kid isn't. (note, spoiler avoidance).
DezBYeah, but Brody was a ginger 'American'
...who she was convinced was an islamic extremist intent on blowing up the CIA. If it helps, maybe you could think of Carrie as a metaphor for US foreign policy...determined to f*** over or kill anyone who gets in her way or to get what she wants. Or she's just a mad bitch. Whatever works for you.
What I was trying to say was that it's the [i]Carrie [/i] bit I struggled to believe!
About 90% of it is unbelievable. Still watchable for me, just.
Although for some reason, it's the tech stuff that always annoys me.
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Like completely silent and invisible camera drones that can follow a car for a hundred miles and deliver a perfect picture in the mountains and also be armed and ready to snipe at a moment's notice.
I have just about given up. The bit where she seduces the young student guy was just super-ick. And is gets more ludicrous with each episode.
Watch the original Israeli series (Prisoners of War) if you want to see some decent TV, it is about 1000 times better. The first season was more about the prisoners coming back and picking up with their families, the second thriller stuff with rescuing the last hostage who may or may not be a double/quadruple agent. The daughter character was excellent in the original series, which is why I think they wasted so much time with her in Homeland.