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Well its started at 9

I reckon the CIA will resurrect Brodie as a zombie


 
Posted : 12/10/2014 9:29 pm
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Might tape it..just to see if Brodies wife gets her kit off again.


 
Posted : 12/10/2014 9:39 pm
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I'm half way through series 2 at the moment. The introspective Carrie mental health issues are becoming a little tiresome. Please tell me it gets better?


 
Posted : 12/10/2014 9:45 pm
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Don't know..I gave up.


 
Posted : 12/10/2014 9:51 pm
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Stay with it geoffj. Just finished series 3 last week. Brilliant tv


 
Posted : 12/10/2014 9:54 pm
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Tonights was a typically great start- it's pretty edgy, by mainstream US terms at least...the only thing is, I missed the first 5 minutes and can't remember what happened at the end of last season...Brody is...dead!?


 
Posted : 12/10/2014 10:29 pm
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Yep... and they've cut out everything that ruined the last couple of seasons...
Including his bloody whinging daughter!


 
Posted : 12/10/2014 10:36 pm
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they've cut out ... his bloody whinging daughter!

Good. Will continue to watch this then. She was the Jar Jar Binks of the show.


 
Posted : 13/10/2014 11:10 am
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[warning:The below may contain spoiler]

Was it me, or was the bit where Carrie and thingy drove in on their own to rescue that bloke who ended up getting stomped, pretty silly and unrealistic?


 
Posted : 13/10/2014 11:14 am
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Very silly and unrealistic - there would be world war 3 if the Iranians executed an American Government agent.


 
Posted : 13/10/2014 11:17 am
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Hell yeah...


 
Posted : 13/10/2014 11:21 am
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Watched it last night and thought just about everything about it was completely ridiculous. Not that thats necessarily a bad thing though.


 
Posted : 13/10/2014 11:23 am
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[i]Very silly and unrealistic[/i]

[i]Not that thats necessarily a bad thing though.[/i]

True! It was the best bit ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 13/10/2014 11:32 am
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If they were brave enough to let him blow everyone up at the end of the first series and ended it there it would have been better.


 
Posted : 13/10/2014 12:03 pm
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If they were brave enough to let him blow everyone up at the end of the first series and ended it there it would have been better.
+1


 
Posted : 13/10/2014 3:41 pm
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Soo what I liked (I use the term advisably) is that they put a CIA agent with known mental problems into a front line, press the button & innocent people die situation...
then wonder why it all goes down the proverbial ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 13/10/2014 3:45 pm
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Septics - what could possibly go wrong?......


 
Posted : 13/10/2014 3:49 pm
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DaRC_L - Mrs Binners reaction to the first 5 minutes was 'what... so she was absolutely hatstand bonkers at the end of last serious, but now she's in charge of everything? In a war zone? That seems pretty realistic'


 
Posted : 13/10/2014 3:52 pm
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'what... so she was absolutely hatstand bonkers at the end of last serious, but now she's in charge of everything? In a war zone? That seems pretty realistic'

But you have to admit, it would explain a lot ...


 
Posted : 13/10/2014 3:55 pm
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Actually..... makes perfect sense


 
Posted : 13/10/2014 3:56 pm
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Right, so Homeland. I'm still watching it, but really wondering why... is it me, or has this series turned totally stupid and shit?


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 10:24 pm
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It would better if they killed Carey (or however it's spelt) off

And as Im watching it a week in advance I could post a spoiler about my theory about a character


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 10:36 pm
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You mean the one from Spooks? I reckon he'll turn out to be on Carey's side.

Episode 7 was quite good.


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 10:38 pm
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[i]It would better if they killed Carey off[/i]

Yeah, but she's all it's about now!


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 10:47 pm
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good bits, bad bits.
don't like Carey, but I'm not sure you're supposed to.
I like it.


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 10:49 pm
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We watched about 15 minutes of episode 1 this season and gave up. It was great with Brody in it, but without him (and the associated plotlines) it's just a CIA drama. Not a bad thing, but not really what I liked about it!


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 10:55 pm
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No, Brody

Oops


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 10:58 pm
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you should have kept watching njee20, it got better. not as good admittedly.


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 11:08 pm
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Stopped about 2 episodes into season 3 , It got really tiresome very quickly.


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 11:10 pm
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This season is turning out far better than season 3, which was one season too many with Brody.


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 11:41 pm
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This season is turning out far better than season 3, which was one season too many with Brody.

I would agree with that. Typical American hit series - why have a concise, exciting story when we can string it out for an extra year with lots of extraneous filler and melodrama. Call it character development. I think the Brody storyline had gone well beyond the boundaries of believability.


 
Posted : 16/11/2014 11:46 pm
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[i]..the Brody storyline had gone well beyond the boundaries of believability[/i]

Are you watching the latest one? Believability??! Carey's seduction of that kid?
Carey in general. It's such utter nonsense!
I think I'll spend my last waking hour on a Sunday watching something less [i]silly[/i].

hmm.. just had a thought. Maybe I did only watch the previous series for Mrs. Brodie...


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 11:21 am
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It was only supposed to have one series with Brody in it, but Damian Lewis was so good, they kept him in it. Series 4 is how it was originally intended to be, CIA spooks drama....

For Alex Gansa, the showโ€™s co-creator alongside Howard Gordon, putting the focus firmly back on Mathison was the natural progression. โ€œWeโ€™d always intended to show Mathison in the field โ€“ it was supposed to happen in season two but the response to Brody was so strong,โ€ he says. โ€œWhile Damian is a huge loss, Brodyโ€™s death has brought a big chapter of Homeland to a close and forced us to push forward into new territories. Howard and I always envisaged Homeland as a show about one particular character, Carrie, and this season gives us a chance to go back to that.โ€

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/claire-danes-interview-homeland-and-carrie-are-back-and-on-form-9787257.html


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 11:28 am
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DezB

Are you watching the latest one? Believability??! Carey's seduction of that kid?
Carey in general. It's such utter nonsense!

Compared to the Brody storyline with it's dozens of twists, I find it's a bit more grounded in some reality. If I recall correctly Carrie originally seduced Brody purely as a means to an end, so her doing it again is at least plausible. It looks like they are trying to draw her as a character willing to do anything to accomplish her goals and then see how far the audience will buy into that. It might not be documentary accurate, but it's not supposed to be, it's entertainment.

On a side note, apparently there is/was a real life CIA operative who was the inspiration for both Carrie and Maya from Zero Dark Thirty. I wonder if she used similar recruitment techniques in real life.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 11:38 am
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Utter pish - my wife still watches it, but for me it lost all credibility when the Iranians killed Brodie.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 11:39 am
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This season is rubbish. Carrie has become a much less sympathetic character and one-dimensional. Saul having a smaller and less pivotal role and the lack of Brodie has had a massive negative impact.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 11:41 am
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Yeah I guess the reason we didn't persist with it was that it felt like a new programme starting season 4, and one which didn't grab us. Not saying it's not good, but I'm basically happy to consider it finished at the end of Season 3!


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 11:48 am
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We stuck with it until the third episode, hoping it might pick up, when Mrs Binners helpfully pointed out, even before the first ad break: "this is absolutely shite!"

She's rarely wrong, and she was spot on this time!


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 11:48 am
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Sounds like there's a lot on here will be glad I'macelebritygetmeoutofhere is back, I'll stick to daft incomprehensible TV's shows where people often end up with a bullet in the head as opposed to where you just wish they would.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 11:51 am
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Good for you! Let us know if anything remotely plausible happens, won't you?

In return I'll keep you posted on how Mel Sykes is getting on. Its only fair ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 11:57 am
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[i]Carrie originally seduced Brody purely as a means to an end, so her doing it again is at least plausible[/i]

Yeah, but Brody was a ginger 'American'. The kid isn't. (note, spoiler avoidance).


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 11:59 am
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DezB

Yeah, but Brody was a ginger 'American'

...who she was convinced was an islamic extremist intent on blowing up the CIA. If it helps, maybe you could think of Carrie as a metaphor for US foreign policy...determined to f*** over or kill anyone who gets in her way or to get what she wants. Or she's just a mad bitch. Whatever works for you.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 12:03 pm
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What I was trying to say was that it's the [i]Carrie [/i] bit I struggled to believe!


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 12:21 pm
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About 90% of it is unbelievable. Still watchable for me, just.

Although for some reason, it's the tech stuff that always annoys me.
[spoiler below]
Like completely silent and invisible camera drones that can follow a car for a hundred miles and deliver a perfect picture in the mountains and also be armed and ready to snipe at a moment's notice.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 12:36 pm
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I have just about given up. The bit where she seduces the young student guy was just super-ick. And is gets more ludicrous with each episode.

Watch the original Israeli series (Prisoners of War) if you want to see some decent TV, it is about 1000 times better. The first season was more about the prisoners coming back and picking up with their families, the second thriller stuff with rescuing the last hostage who may or may not be a double/quadruple agent. The daughter character was excellent in the original series, which is why I think they wasted so much time with her in Homeland.


 
Posted : 17/11/2014 1:03 pm
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