[Closed] Political correctness gone mad - ugly people

if something is true, how can it be pulled up for being politically incorrect?

Rebecca Adlington resembled "someone who's looking at themselves in the back of a spoon".

LOL ! Excellent ! 😀

I think some of the people who complained might have misunderstood the title of the show : "Mock The Week" ......... were they surprised to discover that there was much "mocking" going on ?

Quality. Sorry. Its cruel NOTHING to do with political correctness IMO.

I'm sure Rebecca is thrilled at the publicity over this. Despite being a decent-looking girl she has made history as the first person to be so funny looking that her appearance has been treated like a disability.

In addition people all over the country who have never heard about any of this are now looking at her picture and saying "well, she actually does slightly resemble somebody who's looking at themselves in the back of a spoon"

that was last year, wasn't it? Talk about old news.

[i]Despite being a decent-looking girl [/i]
I put it to you that you have visual difficulties.

I love the fact that because of this, they're now broadcasting the "humiliating" and "offensive" spoon joke to a far wider audience 🙂

add me to that list shandy.
she does indeed.

shes still fair pretty though :s

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The essential thing about "Sachsgate" was that, whether you found it amusing or not, an old man who hadn't really done anything to deserve it returned home and turned on his answerphone to find a series of messages left specifically for the purpose of humiliating him for comic effect, which also happened to have been broadcast. That direct intrusion into someone's life seems to me (whether it's funny or not) to be different from saying something derogatory (whether it's funny or not) about them when they aren't there.

You can quite clearly do a lot of comedy without a repeat of Sachsgate. It becomes a lot harder if you have to avoid simply being rude about people when they're not there. Especially if you're Frankie Boyle. 🙂

And I'm not sure how editorial decisions on Mock The Week are supposed to operate at all if there has to be a [i]"clear editorial purpose for the inclusion of [each] joke."[/i]

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I'm also intrigued that this one was "humiliating and offensive" while claiming that the queen is so old that her vagina is haunted was alright. I'm sure it's possible to create a set of rules that distinguishes the two, but I'm not sure I can do it off the top of my head. 🙂

Lets face it lads you have all done much worse 😆

She's not THAT bad. And she doesn't look for publicity, it seems a bit cruel. Funny, but cruel. Not sure anything should be "done" about it.

I think it could be funny as the price of fame but would you be laughing if they said that about you?

I think she is fine. but is she fine about the comment? I'd be miffed.

She's not THAT bad. And she doesn't look for publicity, it seems a bit cruel.

Oh come on coffeeking, she loves publicity. Although I agree that it's cruel, and I'm sure that she doesn't want her subjects discussing her pussy.

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I for once agree with coffeeking but not with griz.
She is not looking for publicity. Does she likes it? I guess so, but I am pretty confident that her main aim is to try to defend her Olympic title, not to be on mock the week.

I don't much like the idea of a complete ban on discussing people on late night comedy shows who have other things to do with their lives besides being discussed on late night comedy shows, juan. I think you'd kill the format. 🙂

Shandy - Lets face it lads you have all done much worse

Yes, but has she?

Would I? Yes. Thats not a glowing indictment though.

You've all done much worse. Aye. And been knocked back by worse too, no doubt 😀

juan - Member

I for once agree with coffeeking but not with griz.
She is not looking for publicity.

You've got to be kidding Juan - she loves publicity. And anyway, you lot chopped the head off your Queen. So I think the comment about her pussy being haunted pales into insignificance in comparison.

Ones only got to go to any bike ride or race,and see some that resemble ex cast members of fraggle rock,but then we are not famous.

I wasn't talking about the queen.

Bit of a cheap shot at somebody who hasn't set themselves up as anything other than a fast swimmer, and who at the time had only just come to prominence. Not worth resurrecting at this stage but somebody ought to tell Frankie Boyle to raise his game or get off the telly into working mens clubs.

I take it youve never seen Frankie Boyle live? Hes quite a bit ruder than he is on TV.

Frankie Boyle is a comedic genius, it WAS funny, he need not raise his game. However it was also cruel.

FFS - you think "our Becks" is ugly? Did you see the captain of UCL on University Challeneg last night? 😯

I'm still having nightmares now...

She is not ugly, she has an interesting face.

"Did you see the captain of UCL on University Challeneg last night?"

that was a man in a dress, though, when all's said and done.

binners. On pull a pig nights I'd shock even you. I've been known to win a fair few of these being a competitive sort.

If she didn't want to be in the public eye, she shouldn't have swam so fast. Publicity goes with the territory of being the best AND proving it in public.

I easily swim faster than the world record times. Come to that I could out bike Lance too. But I choose only to do it in private as I don't fancy the jokes!

On a more serious note, the BBC, actually the whole country is going to go to the dogs (faster than expected) if comics can't make jokes like that in the future.

FFS I wish society had some sort of proportion!

But I choose only to do it in private as I don't fancy the jokes!

[i]FFS I wish society had some sort of proportion! [/i]
it has. 24/39ths.

hora - Member
binners. On pull a pig nights I'd shock even you.

Yeah but the twist is you're the pig.

actually the whole country is going to go to the dogs (faster than expected) if comics can't make jokes like that in the future

I think there is plenty of scope for hilarity without personal cruelty. Next thing you'll be telling us Bernard Manning was a comic genius.

hora - Member
binners. On pull a pig nights I'd shock even you.

Yeah but the twist is you're the pig.

We once had a debate over this. Girls in groups have pull a pig night as well. Its entirely feasible that our group could have interacted with a similar girls group at some point. In addition, the absolute stunners Ive pulled- I mean they are hardly going to say mid-fun 'swcheet- can beleive I won the competition tonight'

So is pull a pig night just a cover for ugly people to pull other ugly people so as to get some action without having to justify themselves?

[i]I think there is plenty of scope for hilarity without personal cruelty. [/i]

This is obviously grand as an aspiration, but it doesn't seem to be borne out by the evidence. 🙂

So many comics either make jokes at other people's expense, or make jokes at their own expense. You can't make jokes at your own expense on a current affairs programme, so you're going to mostly make jokes about other people, or about "events". Producing stand-up material about "events" is going to involve generalising ruthlessly about groups of people until you've got something funny, whether it's about conservatives, ****stanis or nuclear submariners. Most of the generalising is likely to be problematic for [i]someone[/i] you're talking about if they aren't laughing along.

I'd be delighted to have some examples of comics who do sets which don't involve either personal cruelty or prejudiced generalisation and don't basically talk about themselves, mind. 🙂

Girls in groups have pull a pig night as well

So is pull a pig night just a cover for ugly people to pull other ugly people so as to get some action without having to justify themselves?

You've raised a very good point. Funniest thats happened to a friend of mine- woke up looking at unfamiliar artex on the ceilling, looked across, felt utterly dirty and wrong, girl wakes up, matey decides to have 'one more for the road'...even though at this point he is thoroughly sober...girl says 'thank you my Stallion' as hes getting up..

The remark which has now fallen foul of the trust was made by Frankie Boyle

I knew it would be. Go on Frankie!

DaveGr - not sure about a pull a pig night but I now of a grab-a-granny if that's of any interest? Not as bad as it sounds as it's in the sort of area where the grannies tend to be quite young....

grannies tend to be quite young....

Wythenshawe Manchester?

Not the Grafton Rooms in Liverpool is it? <shudders at the memory>

Clatty Pats?