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I consider myself to be moderately attuned to good beer, but I have not yet tasted an offering from Tiny Rebel that I like. In fact, I have found their stuff - including their cider - to be insipid at best and putrid at worst.

But Mrs SR likes it. As in everything of theirs she’s tried.

Who’s right?

(Don’t worry about offending her; she’s not on STW. And I know you won’t hesitate to offend me. So fire away.)


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 12:30 am
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Beer taste is highly subjective, unless you are talking about Carlsberg, or green King IPA, which is objectively terrible.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 12:50 am
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Consider it a poll then.
But I guess I’m trying to discern if I’m in a gross minority, and if I need to be more open to the charms of Tiny Rebel, if it is just a Marmite-type product, or if my observations can be back by objective measures (the STW collective mind).

Oh, and I assume you meant ‘Carling’ where you write ‘Carlsberg’. 🧐


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 12:57 am
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But Mrs SR likes it. As in everything of theirs she’s tried.

Who’s right?

She said she likes it but you're saying that she's lying and she doesn't like it?


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 1:04 am
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Cwtch is one of my favourite beers


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 1:12 am
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Domestic harmony comes before taste in beer so agree with Mrs SR and then buy your own stash for solo enjoyment!
Tiny Rebel - not for me either.
Wild Beer (if they're still trading) and Northern Monk are good.
I really enjoy German beer - the 'purity' of taste gives it an edge, IMO, to other beers; Früh Kölsch is consistently good and, at 4.8%, isn't challenging.
Brugse Zot from, as you may guess, Belgium is another favourite - but not the dubbel; Belgian beers are, generally, not to my liking.
I'm in Nottinghamshire and there's quite a number of breweries in the county and across the border in Lincolnshire but I don't rate many of their brews highly.
On occasion, I order direct from Vocation dependant on what they're offering; my standout from them was an Imperial Kirsch at 11%. Of their current range the chocolate and cherry imperial stout (black forest gateau) at 10% sounds similar - I'll know when I open it!
My last delivery included a USA pale and their 'yakima pilsner'.
For something really refreshing and low in alcohol try Schöfferhofer in either grapefruit or pineapple; 50% wheat beer, 50% fruit.
If you like quirky, Neon Raptor from Nottingham - an occasional can of their Vanilla Weisse is good but remember to roll the can before opening.
Top tip - find a local ale store and...enjoy yourself.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 1:14 am
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I don't recall ever having any of theirs. Is it one of these new-fangled 'craft' beers which sell in half-sized cans for double the price?

I feel much the same way about Brewdog. Their marketing is amusing but I've yet to find a beer I'd rate much more than "mediocre."


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 2:16 am
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I don’t recall ever having any of theirs. Is it one of these new-fangled ‘craft’ beers which sell in half-sized cans for double the price?

No.

I first tried Tiny Rebel at Greenman several years ago, in particular Cwtch. I was rather sad when they ran out, but Purple Moose’s ‘Dark Side Of The Moose’ made up for it. Until that ran out.

This may be a novel observation, but different breweries have different ideas about what makes a good brew, and some of those ideas may not be appreciated by everyone who likes beer. I don’t necessarily like every brew that even my favourite brewery turns out, but that’s ok, because there’s always something else to try. Frome Brewery do a bunch of different beers, and I haven’t found anything yet that I don’t like. There’s a pub in Eddington, (a place of great importance to English history), called The Three Daggers, who have their own brewery, and my regular pub has one of theirs on tap at the moment, it’s a bit too hoppy for my liking, but I’ve loved several others of theirs in the past. Currently enjoying Frome Brewery’s Prohibition Ale, which is a very dark American ale, really a stout, and that’s incredibly more-ish.
Maybe we should all go back to the days of Watney’s Red Barrel, and Double Diamond…


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 2:48 am
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and I assume you meant ‘Carling’ where you write ‘Carlsberg’

They are the same thing for the purpose of this debate 😉

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I don't think tiny rebel are any better or worse, they are just jumping on the craft beer band wagon...

When it comes to 'trendy' beer, Vocation do some good ones, but Magic rock 'high wire' is a fave of mine, as it's farily normal...and the spin-off, high wire grape fruit.

If it's a hot day, salty kiss is superb, really tart if you like that kind of thing.

I should probably qualify that by saying I prefer Keg beers, rather than cask, as I like a little bit of fizz.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 2:49 am
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Never tried Tiny Rebel so will side with SR on this one as I’ve not seen a post from him in ages.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 7:36 am
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Tiny Rebel, like most brewdog offerings I don't actively dislike, but by the same token, it's a bit... mehh.... Will drink it if in a pub and all the other offerings are Carling etc. but would never by it from a shop/offie.  There are so many amazing 'mainstream' brews out there (Magic Rock, Vocation), not to  mention smaller producers. But Tiny Rebel... it's 'OK' at best.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 7:42 am
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I feel much the same way about Brewdog. Their marketing is amusing but I’ve yet to find a beer I’d rate much more than “mediocre.”

This is really very generous review. The pair of them are absolutely ****s. And the beer is rank.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 7:42 am
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That's not really what we do here.

I like Bass, Tribute and Guinness. Tend to avoid craft beers as I find them too hippy and fruity in the main.

Edit - autocorrect turned hoppy to hippy but I think it sort of fits so I won't change it.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 7:53 am
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I've had the Club Tropicana. It's extremely fruity, but quite watery, and lacks any body at all. It's strange also in that, at 5.5% abv, you'd expect a significant inebriation effect, but this acts more like a 3.5% session ale. 

4/10


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 8:10 am
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I reckon I could drink Clwb Tropica until it filled me up to the point of drowning me!  It's lush.

See also Gamma Ray from Beavertown and Brewdog's Hazy Daze.

Also very fond of Guinness,  Ghost Ship, Old Speckled Hen, Landlord,.......

Each to their own!

The exception being Greene King IPA, which (as someone else already confirmed) is an abomination.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 8:27 am
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I don’t recall ever having any of theirs. Is it one of these new-fangled ‘craft’ beers which sell in half-sized cans for double the price?

Pretty much. Not a great fan, their stuff is generally a bit sweet and gimmicky for my tastes (as is much of the 'craft' genre). Note 'my tastes' though, it's all obviously subjective.

Well, other than Brewdog it is. Their beer tastes like petrol and the owner's a c**t, and that's cold hard fact.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 8:34 am
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You're both right, just because someone enjoys something doesn't mean it's good and likewise just because someone else doesn't enjoy something doesn't mean it's bad.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 8:36 am
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Had and did not enjoy Club Tropicana - it’s coloured my view to the point that at don’t want to try any more of their stuff.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 8:37 am
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Tiny rebel frequently break the (my) cardinal rule which is: never add fruit juice to your beer. 

The ones that don't are ok, but not my favourite. 

Ps. Fruity tastes from hoppyness are fine, but if there is fruit on the ingredients list it's out. 


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 8:38 am
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I like Bass, Tribute and Guinness. Tend to avoid craft beers as I find them too hippy and fruity in the main.

Don't necessarily concur with your beer choices but I also find too many craft beers that are trying too hard and opt for a no nonsense pint where I can.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 8:44 am
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Their ESB was a rather pleasing drink (in full size cans too) though a touch lively. One of the cans exploded while upright on the shelf and I lost 25% of the stash. (The therapy is ongoing as loss of beer is a terrible thing).


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 8:47 am
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I like Bass, Tribute and Guinness. Tend to avoid craft beers as I find them too hippy and fruity in the main.

I also find too many craft beers that are trying too hard and opt for a no nonsense pint where I can

Yup, this and this


 
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Posted : 05/12/2023 9:11 am
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My local had this on the other day. Very nice but couldn't drink more than one. Also a fan of Cwtch but don't see it around too often

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Posted : 05/12/2023 9:13 am
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Tiny Rebel have made some great beers. Cwtch isn’t for me though.

Try the jam doughnut flavoured one… very, very wrong. Delicious.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 9:16 am
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Please help resolve an argument

We can provide you with the correct answer, but only you and your wife can resolve the argument...


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 9:32 am
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never even seen "tiny rebel"

Tastes in beer are subjective - there is no right answer.  I can't stand dark caramalised beers.  I love a well hopped IPA ( but not the over hopped ones)


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 10:08 am
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I agree with the comments above about many of these craft beers just trying too hard. I also find that all of the Brewdog beers (which I don’t really like but sometimes end up with some) are really fizzy/foamy and I end up having to spit out a weird froth that seems to develop in my mouth - it’s very weird.

My preferred drink is just San Miguel - nice and hoppy with a really full flavour.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 2:36 pm
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I only like niche beers you won't have heard of because I'm such a very special, sophisticated boy.

In fact, I have found their stuff – including their cider – to be insipid at best and putrid at worst

I've enjoyed a number of tiny rebel beers, your patter is insipid and putrid at worst.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 2:51 pm
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I'm 100% with you OP. I should like their beer, but I'm always left disappointed. 


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 2:59 pm
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Cwtch is one of my favourite beers

This, but I rarely see it anywhere. I'd assumed they'd stopped making it, in favour of the flavoured beers, and I don't like those.

never even seen “tiny rebel”

Brewed near Newport, in the Valleys. (Cwmbran, iirc?) I guess it doesn't get a wide distribution?


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 3:01 pm
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“Yes dear. Just popping out to the pub.”


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 3:06 pm
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I've had Tin Rebel beers and you're right they are rank.  Now, Neck Oil from Beavertown on the other hand s lovely and is my normal Thursday night tipple in the pub after a ride.  My home cupboards however are filled with Belgiums (and Dutch) finest ales courtesy of a little visit to Vanuxeem in Ploegsteert.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 3:07 pm
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Electric boogaloo is pretty decent. As for the brewery Tiny Rebel do like to make beers in the extreme.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 3:09 pm
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Neck Oil from Beavertown

Beavertown is no longer 'craft' FWIW, they sold out to Heineken last year.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 3:21 pm
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I'm with your wife, they're my favourite brewery.    Even the weird ones they occasionally do, like chocolate marshmallow stouts etc


 
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Father in law had a subscription with them a while back so he had all sorts of their stuff to try. I reckon it was about a 20/80 hit rate (i.e. 20% 'alright', 80% turd)

I'm not a fan.

I reckon brewdog is about 60/40


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 3:42 pm
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That Cwtch stuff is pretty nice IMO.

Really enjoyed a marshmallow porter of theirs, but couldn't drink it all night.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 3:43 pm
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My preferred drink is just San Miguel – nice and hoppy with a really full flavour.

Eh?  Ok its a not bad if the alternative is a cheapo lager but its not in the same universe as a proper ale.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 3:58 pm
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its not in the same universe as a proper ale

Well no, because it's a different drink.

And god I hate the word 'ale'. Don't get me wrong, I like the drink, but the word just brings to mind bearded blowhards drinking Scrumptons Old Cockflap out of their own pewter tankard whilst their leather waistcoat and faded Runrig t-shirt is stretched to the point of rupture across their distended belly.


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 4:07 pm
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brings to mind bearded blowhards drinking Scrumptons Old Cockflap out of their own pewter tankard whilst their leather waistcoat and faded Runrig t-shirt is stretched to the point of rupture across their distended belly.

Have you been spying on me?


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 4:13 pm
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My preferred drink is just San Miguel – nice and hoppy with a really full flavour.

🤨


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 4:19 pm
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Tiny rebel are ok, but Vocation Life & Death is my go to.


 
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Have you been spying on me?

You haven't got a beard 😉


 
Posted : 05/12/2023 4:22 pm
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tj - it's no surprise you haven't heard of Tiny Rebel as Fortnum & Mason, your grocer, don't stock it.


 
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