[Closed] Ok so what good reliable 4x4 and not look like a chav

err, Defender seems like the best bet (apart from the reliability, allegedly)

It's that shocking reliability that I'm fed up with
Its only does about 6000 miles a year and still breaks down lots
It's a td5

Does need to tow around 3 ton though

Double cab pickup of some description

Towing 3t for hop far?
a nice car and one of these perhaps
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Ran for years with only filter changes. Also goes on red diesel 🙂

I did suggest a Unimog but she was not willing

VW Amarok, just about to sell mine if you're interested..

Pick ups and bikes seem like a pain in the ass but willing to listen

Forester. I drove from Manchester to Bristol and back the same day in mine and I felt fine. In some 4x4's you'd feel knackered. .i.e Defender

I did suggest a Unimog but she was not willing

This ^^ I'd love one 8)

chavs don't have 4x4s IME

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the. new Ford Ranger.

orangeboy - Member
Pick ups and bikes seem like a pain in the ass but willing to listen

It comes complete with a tailgate pad, you can hang 4 or 5 MTB's off the back, I'll see if I can find a pic and edit it in.

Forester + 1

Yunki.

Interesting Pic. I wonder if there's a Chav cloning program in operation, somewhere.

Nissan pathfinder?
and for those saying forester i didn't think it could tow 3 tonnes?

Is that towing 3-ton just on tarmac or also off-road?

Not sure if just me, but a double-cab and big trailer is rather cumbersome - plus d-c's are tight on people space.

And how much do you want to spend?

King-ocelot - Member
Forester + 1

Not sure a Forester can tow 3t

I wonder if there's a Chav cloning program in operation, somewhere.

the guy in the red jacket is like the queen ant (queen chav) and lays on average 400 eggs per day..

if you look closely, you can see from his expression that he's just laying another one there.. the other chavs around him are worker chavs and will be feeding the eggs with spliffs and white lightening..

It comes complete with a tailgate pad, you can hang 4 or 5 MTB's off the back, I'll see if I can find a pic and edit it in.

Easy removed too 🙂

Forester.

That'll never tow 3 tonnes.

[i]worker chavs[/i]
😆

Forrster will tow 2400lb/1088Kg

"plus d-c's are tight on people space."

used one recently ?

there pleasent places to be - the l200 i was in was just a shogun internally with leaf springs out back.

pays for this by loosing load space mind you.

for towing 3tonne your options are limited.

We've got a XJ-series Jeep Cherokee Sport, which is pretty rugged and very comfortable. Good for 5000lbs towing, not sure that's quite enough. It's pretty reliable though, although I have changed the radiator, serpentine belt and water pump - small radiator leak, and I thought I'd do it all at once. Took me all of about 3 hours, and the trickiest bit was unscrewing all the various covers. Depends how mechanically minded you are, I suppose.

That'll never tow 3 tonnes.

Why do you want to tow 3 tonnes?

because the OP said he wants to tow 3 tonnes ... i imagine horses....

i want at least 2.5 tonne towing on my next car for a car transporter

mikewsmith - Member
It comes complete with a tailgate pad, you can hang 4 or 5 MTB's off the back, I'll see if I can find a pic and edit it in.
Easy removed too

Yep does depend if you're genuinely using it to transport the bikes to and from a trail area, I have left it here and there for an hour or so, but the boys up at Herts made me take the bikes off the back and take them inside whilst we went for an Indian, so it does depend on your locality I guess.

Then you can run a lock cable through them and vans ain't necessarily any safer it somebody is aware of what's inside, they're just more visible initally I guess which if anything hones your own sense of security, I guess having been a committed pick up user these past ten years or so you get into a routine to suit, funnily enough I'm thinking of returning to using a van for other reasons, but I do prefer a pick up for the sheer convenience of other stuff you can do with it.

because the OP said he wants to tow 3 tonnes ... i imagine horses....

Transit van then. Sorted.

[b]hora[/b] - Member
Forester.

It's a good answer, hora, but not to this question.

BWHAAHAAHAAHAHAHAHA transit van - fack off ...

terrible for towing across [s]grassy fields[/s] wet tarmac.

i remember watching a mate turn up to trial with his rangey on the back of his transit - couldnt even get up the slope into the event with the transit.

rolled the rangey off the back and still couldnt get the transit up. towed his transit up the hill with the rangey in the end.

igrf

Having ended up with a Forrester here in Oz (missus made the choice before I got here) I did consider a Ute (pick up) as a second go anywhere bike vehicle. But after seeing limited dry load space and all that I was straight back to saving for the van. Bikes in & locked away with the tools etc. Dry on the inside and the insurance considers it all locked away inside. The roads here are fine in the end no real need for anything mental (don't tell the locals)

Cough cough I missed the 3 tonne bit if the OP. I withdraw my Forester suggestion & have learned a harsh lesson never to +1 Hora. *head hanging in shame*

Is that you ploughing mikewsmith - I thought for a moment it was my uncle!? If so, whereabouts?

We looked into this a lot as we wanted something that would be reliable, tow 2 horses & trailer safely and be reasonably economical. We ended up with a Kia Sorento and haven't regretted the choice.

ssangyong korrando SE on the leftfield ??

depreciate like a stone i bet but as a used purchase couldnt be bad ?

folks i know with them are happy with em and had no major faults. they are the old 2.8 Merc engines as oppose their own 2.0 TD they use now though.

Not me in the pic, our 2 had cabs (either soft up north or way worse weather) ploughed with them a few times when I could barley reach the pedals 🙂

Farmers today don't know they are born!
(I am also not nearly that old!)

Thank all some good things to look at there

And yes big horse box and Somtimes a car trailer
Just not sure about the security of bikes in a pickup

Not used for playing offroad just the odd field and the like

Keep being pointed at kia

Cabs for 'real' ploughing but always either the 28 or the 135 for competitions!

our 135's had cabs!! 1 had a working wiper and radio (MW/LW I was gutted when R1 went to FM)

Just not sure about the security of bikes in a pickup

I'm not sure there are many with a 3 tonne towing capacity tho.

My 07 ranger is plated at more than 3000 kgs towing capacity

I've had a L200 Animal for the last 4 years, done me fine and very much like a Shogun inside. it's for sale at the moment as i have a new car. 56 reg, 56k on clock, just had cam belt done, FSH, auto blah blah blah. As it's a euro 4 car the road tax is only £130 a year. No vat as I've had it as a family car since it came from Mitsi so no hard work, just trips to the alps in winter and summer. £10k (locking truckman top)
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I've got an Isuzu pickup. They have a 3 tonne towing capacity and I get over 30mpg in mine.

I've got a truck top. That makes it as secure as an anything else and the tie down points make handy hard points for a chain.

With the top on I can get one complete bike or two bikes in with the front wheels removed or 3 with both wheels off.

3.5T really narrows the choices. I was looking at Toyota Hiaces as a less expensive option to a Discovery but the towing capacity is lacking.

You are looking at Landrovers, Toyota Landcruiser, Nissan Patrol and the likes. Also watch out for auto boxes as they may have a lower towing capacity than the manual version.

have you thought about a Range Rover? The can be found cheaper than Defenders and Discos and a lot have never been off road.