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53 year old HGV driver by trade moved up to Yorkshire for a quieter and less hectic life , bought nice house in village ,Mortgage free etc , but work wasn't great when we moved up here unless you want to travel or do silly hours which I don't !!.
Anyways last year I got a seasonal job at a big holiday camp up here driving their Bin truck and gas delivery truck around site, and even got to do a bit of gardening and if I'm honest, despite it being minimum wage and seasonal, I really enjoyed it, lads are great, all day sea views and I get to work in shorts all day 🙂 ..But as the season was coming to an end I applied to local council for work and just this week I've been offered a full time position driving for them , Its not much more money, but its full time and permanent .... BUT yesterday I get a phone call to go back to said holiday park and carry on where I left off
I'm in 2 minds what to do ... my heart says go to the holiday camp , but my head is telling me to do the sensible thing and go to the council !!!
I've always been excited about starting a new job , but this time I'm not ?? .... extra money would be nice but not enough for new bikes etc
so do I go for a stress free plod along and look at the sea all day type of job , or the other job ??
decision decisions !


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 3:52 pm
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If you can manage on the holiday job money, then stick with it.

But if you want few more years on better income, chipping in towards a LA pension scheme, maybe swallow your pride.


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 3:54 pm
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Obviously, all we have to go on is what you've written. From the way you've written it, it sounds like you want to stay at the holiday park.


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 3:55 pm
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What do you need the ex


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 3:55 pm
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What do you need the extra money for?
If indeed you do need it.

If nothing vital then holiday park every day of the week.


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 3:56 pm
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Why on earth would you want to spend the summer working at the holiday camp?

https://nostalgiacentral.com/movies/movies-by-decade/movies-1970s/confessions-holiday-camp-1977/


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 3:57 pm
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When would the holiday park job start? Nothing to stop you trying the council job for a month to see if it is as bad as you expect.


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 3:57 pm
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Does the not much more money factor in if the council job has a better pension? Sick leave. God forbid you need it but if you had some accident or unexpected illness where you were off for a few months are the jobs equal?

But it depends on how much you value the extra benefits of the council job versus the other. Driving a bin lorry round set routes every day sounds tedious compared to the variety of tasks on the holiday camp.

I would tend to go for the job I enjoyed more if I could afford it. 40 hours a week is a long time if you don't enjoy your work?


 
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What do you need the extra money for?
If indeed you do need it.

If nothing vital then holiday park every day of the week.

We can survive on the money, but that's it .. survive ... its just having a bit extra incase of emergencies etc , boiler or car issues etc ... as above its not much more, roughly £20 a week, but its something ! ... Just not feeling the new job ..... but I've spoken to the holiday camp manager and he's told me if it doesn't work out then I can go back as long as the roles not been filled, which I doubt it will be because we ran short staffed all last year


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 4:02 pm
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£20 a week easily disappears in things like a longer commute - have you worked out 'extra' cost of either job?

You could also look at other ways of earning a few quid here and there - everything from beating at shoots, to occasional freelance work, to just asking the holiday camp to up salary by £20...?


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 4:05 pm
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At 20 quid a week can't they match it?


 
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When would the holiday park job start? Nothing to stop you trying the council job for a month to see if it is as bad as you expect.

starts Monday , same as council ..and yes I have the option to go back as well :).. so thats a bit of a safety net


 
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At 20 quid a week can’t they match it?

sadly not , he doesn't control the money , its set at head office, 99% of the staff are seasonal and on minimum wage


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 4:08 pm
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Which makes you happiest? Do that.


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 4:09 pm
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Can't you mix the summer holiday job with some winter seasonal work?

Loads of companies need temporary drivers in the run up to Christmas.


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 4:11 pm
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As others have said - don't forget the sick pay, holiday pay and pensions from the council job - thats worth around 20% on top of the wage if you get the T&C of others I know working for the council

On the other hand life is too short to spend it doing something you do not like

Its a tricky one for me.  My gut says holiday camp


 
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Sounds like you have a great relationship with the holiday camp job - reminds me of how I felt about working at bars and restaurants when I was in my teens/early 20s, which I loved.

I'd go for that, being happy at work is worth so much more than £20 a week (well, pension and sick pay stuff aside, but you'll know your own finances best).


 
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Does the not much more money factor in if the council job has a better pension? Sick leave. God forbid you need it but if you had some accident or unexpected illness where you were off for a few months are the jobs equal?

good points, no sick pay etc , all basic stuff including company pension etc , but that isn't a lot , we do have savings but that's took a hit the last year or so, so not a lot to fall back on


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 4:21 pm
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Unfortunately it sounds like you are in the position most of us are in - just not quite wealthy enough to live how we want. 🙂

The wife and I are pretty much in the same position - mortgage free, early 50s. Both in jobs that pay OK, but don't really enjoy. We could both take seasonal work and still pay the basics. But we'd be existing, not living.


 
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The wife and I are pretty much in the same position – mortgage free, early 50s. Both in jobs that pay OK, but don’t really enjoy. We could both take seasonal work and still pay the basics. But we’d be existing, not living.

that's exactly how it is , perfect wording 🙂 .... My wife also works for the same BIG holiday company but on a different site ,she's gone from a manic NHS to a leisurely 2 days a week cleaning caravans and she's happy as well, Zero stress ... But as you say .. its just existing


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 4:32 pm
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...and the Council driving job may be just as slack and stress free! 🙂


 
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…and the Council driving job may be just as slack and stress free! 🙂

hoping so but cant wear shorts !


 
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My wife also works for the same BIG holiday company but on a different site ,

I'd be wary of having all my employment eggs in one holiday company basket. If the company goes pop (which they can do, and with little warning), or decides it needs to lose some staff to cut costs, you could be screwed.


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 4:44 pm
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...and, it's a job, why should you be excited? I'm not saying you should go if you're dreading it, or if you really don't want it, but there's no need to think you should be excited about it.


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 4:47 pm
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Sell fags and booze to the kids at the holiday camp ££££


 
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I’d be wary of having all my employment eggs in one holiday company basket. If the company goes pop (which they can do, and with little warning), or decides it needs to lose some staff to cut costs, you could be screwed.

Good point 🙂 .... well they have just been bought out by an uber global investment company !.. so u never know


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 4:51 pm
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Which makes you happiest? Do that.

This ^^^

Or personally I prefer the holiday company but that's seasonal isn't it?

I think holiday company you can take a "break" while working, yes? Have a fag etc, yes?

…and the Council driving job may be just as slack and stress free!

Yes, a good job as Council driving gives out free money! Not sure how many hours you will be sitting or driving around but at least you can see visit various locations.

Or at least with Council driving you can see how many gearbox you can destroy ... LOL! 6th gear straight to 2nd gear or 1st gear to 3rd gear at a speed while no one is watching. LOL! Burn some rubber etc.


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 5:12 pm
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I think holiday company you can take a “break” while working, yes? Have a fag etc, yes?

Not fags for me personally , but yes .. have stopped work and gone down the sea front for an ice cream on more than 1 occasion 😉


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 5:19 pm
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Can the council up their pay offer to make that a better deal for you?


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 5:26 pm
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Not fags for me personally , but yes .. have stopped work and gone down the sea front for an ice cream on more than 1 occasion 🙂

If money is no issue (you are mortgage free!) then take the happiest job on offer. Life is too short to get more stress.

If you like to interact with more people then the holiday camp job is better.
If you can't be arsed with people and prefer cruising around then driving is better.

🙂


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 5:30 pm
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Surely if you've got an HGV licence you could do some contract driving in the winter months and do the holiday park stuff during spring and summer. The news has been telling us that there is a lack of HGV drivers since all the Eastern Europeans buggered off back home, so even if it wasn't full-time over the winter months a few shifts would provide the spending money you want.


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 5:40 pm
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Take the job that makes you happier. £20 isnt that much.


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 5:47 pm
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Ask the holiday park to up your money.
If they are like any we have been to in the last 18 months , they are ripping the arse out of the UK customer now that we have less places to go (with minimum hassle for families). 😄


 
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Am I correct in understating the holiday camp job will be around 6months of minimum wage but give you enough cash to cushion the whole 12 months?

And the council job is 12 months of minimum wage?

Can you go part time at the council job? work 3 days a week, 12 months a year and have a 4 day weekend each week? That could be a nice work/life balance with a bit of comfort in knowing you could (probably) do overtime if you needed a wee bit extra?


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 6:12 pm
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If you are a driver pretty sure you could get work out of season to help you tick over, but - God Forbid - at 53 I have one eye on sick pay and pensions when I get reminded just how shit my job is!


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 6:18 pm
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I'd suggest council.

As you say, there are benefits, and lets face it 54 is still young, but not that young, and medical bills or expenses might be needed in the future, should something untoward strike.

Then of course you get holiday pay, whereas in the holiday camp its nothing in the off season months, all in all the council job is the sensible choice.

£20 a difference 😕  I think it adds up to more with the medical/pension/holiday being taken into account.


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 6:25 pm
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@stumpy-m4, which council & what’s the job?


 
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Am I correct in understating the holiday camp job will be around 6months of minimum wage but give you enough cash to cushion the whole 12 months?

And the council job is 12 months of minimum wage?

I had 8 months last year on minimum wage, if I go back Monday I may get 9 maybe 10 months till end of season ?
Wish I could make the 6 months money last 12 months , id take that !
Council , is more than minimum but permanent etc


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 6:48 pm
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The salary difference is a grand annually. I know you said it's set further up the food chain but they might at least ask for you if nudged? You're experienced and you're a known quantity to them, that has to count for something.

If you have a HGV licence right now, I'm amazed that people aren't knocking down your door to try and give you work.


 
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The salary difference is a grand annually. I know you said it’s set further up the food chain but they might at least ask for you if nudged? You’re experienced and you’re a known quantity to them, that has to count for something.

If you have a HGV licence right now, I’m amazed that people aren’t knocking down your door to try and give you work.

No move on money, been there and asked, its a company wide thing ! that's that ,As for the HGV driving, yeah I've had offers but nothing locally, don't fancy 300 miles commute every week or doing silly hours ... done that got the tshirt ... came up here to do LESS !


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 7:13 pm
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Take the job that makes you happier. £20 isnt that much.

£20 is a lot if at the end of each week you've nothing in the bank!

If the holiday park is struggling for staff they may need to up their game to hire people, minimum wage is bad, but minimum wage for a job that will stop in winter is pretty hard to make sound appealing unless there's some obvious place the staff all go for Christmas seasonal work instead. Not saying don't go back there - but just have in your mind that they've had a change of ownership by someone who is only interested in profit and a new manager can ruin any workplace, especially if they are being pushed to deliver spreadsheets.


 
Posted : 13/01/2022 8:05 pm