An F-Pace isn’t that big a vehicle, especially compared to something like a Q7, I haven’t googled dimensions but it looks closer to a Sportage or Tucson.
Indeed my Jeep Grand Cherokee is 2239mm wide, don't have that many issues parking it but then I tend to park the far side of a car park away from others.
If I had that kind of cash to spend on a 4x4 it would be one of these.
Anyway, Mboy, on to more pertinent questions, whats the salesman spending his commission on?
Anyway, Mboy, on to more pertinent questions, whats the salesman spending his commission on?
A discounted 29er tyre, and I set it up tubeless for him!
He is the last of the big spenders, he really is...
My skoda got a wireless charging pad! No monogramming though... I feel cheated
On the subject of car sizes, I took this photo a few weeks ago to show how small a family car used to be compared to modern cars.
I'd hardly call a mini representative, even by the standards of the day it was small!
Better comparison is modern car and Mk1 model above, I saw a Mk8 Civic years ago that was significantly bigger than the Mk1 Accord it was following.
Bloke down the road has an overfinch RRS.
I do often wonder, as I pull out of my cul-de-sac and glance across to it, “how many times a day does he fill it up?”
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This documentary about Bentley is worth a viewing
They have a 'secret upgrades department' that quickly puts this piffling Range Rover nonsense into perspective, and proves beyond reasonable doubt that money most certainly can't buy you taste or class. A Saudi prince who wants his handmade interior studded with actual diamonds? Certainly sir! No problem!
But lets just take a moment to marvel at peak vulgarity. Footballers. Stephen Ireland paid 260 grand for this beauty for his wife, including monogrammed red leather seats
@perchy I see a Father Ted discussion looming...
An F-Pace isn’t that big a vehicle, especially compared to something like a Q7, I haven’t googled dimensions but it looks closer to a Sportage or Tucson.
Certainly a lot smaller than a VW T4 or 5
A VW T4 is 1840mm wide and the F-pace is 1936 wide. So the T4 is 96mm narrower
The F-pace is also 25mm longer than a T4.
I don’t have any issues parking and using a T4 as a daily drive. Although decent mirrors help.
Was thinking about this this morning, I think most folk not in the know about how mind bogglingly expensive these RRs are, think they are in the 60-80k bracket, so is spending super mega money, on what is not a rare or overly ostentatious car (like a roller or lambo for example), actually a little more tasteful/restrained?
Whoa! that WAG's Bentley in truly hideous. TBF, footballers get crazy money, they're young, under a lot of scrutiny and working/living in a very laddish/materialistic environment. It's hardly surprising there's an element of one-upmanship and they choose to spaff a ton of money on cars. That one Binners posted is gopping though 😂
Or for the more frugal, you can wait 4 years and pick up a Vogue for £35k with 50k miles. That’s quite some depreciation. Not that anyone spending £180k would worry about such things, let alone discuss them.
Saw a mate on FB picking up his new Lamborghini spider on Friday. Got to be £200k minimum!
I did quite like Balotelli's Bentley paintjob, just for the shear daftness of it. A sort of anti-bling
The people that I know that run range rovers have them on the 'business' and it's all offset against tax - more you spend, less you pay.
@DJ Surely the BIK would be shocking, better to take a dividend and buy one yourself, charge for milage? Tax is such a minefield, even HMRC can't get it right.
The people that I know that run range rovers have them on the ‘business’ and it’s all offset against tax – more you spend, less you pay.
The business still has to make enough (spare) cash to cover the cost of it though, even if you are writing it off against tax!
Exactly
PCP deals aren’t as bad as you think. I was in a Land Rover garage a few weeks ago - a RR Sport SVR is £113k new on the road with a few options. £10k down and it’s then £1600 a month based on 12k miles.
That still sounds like an awful lot of money..
That's seventy grand, for three years use of a car!
Bloody hell! I didn’t realise it was only a trifling little 10k down and 1600 a month
Bargain!
I think I’ll pop out next week and sign us up for his and hers matching ones.
PCP deals aren’t as bad as you think. I was in a Land Rover garage a few weeks ago – a RR Sport SVR is £113k new on the road with a few options. £10k down and it’s then £1600 a month based on 12k miles.
Road tax? Insurance? Not being up on the next debt bubble that is pcp, I presume tax and insurance are extra?
In my world, a brand new RR Sport is not a priority, so I’ll look elsewhere to spend my spare £1,600 per month!
To be fair, I struggle with some more 'normal' car costs, even on lease or PCP.
Chap round the corner from us has his n hers matching Kia changed every two years. So every year there's a new top of range car (natch) on the drive. As far as I can tell, they drive to collect the papers each morning, that's it. This year's looks different as they've gone for a Niro, not a Sportage. Last year, hers went from Silver to Black.
It's all relative isn't it? There are millions (Billions?) of people on the planet who can't afford to eat properly, and can only dream of buying a second hand car of any sort. The idea of spending £1000+ for a bike for fun must seem like madness to them. On the other hand, people who think that spending £200k+ for a car is normal are probably amazed at the vulgarity of people spending £100,000,000 for a yacht, "you could 50 Veyrons for that....."
Fwiw, I think society's acceptance that it is fine for a handful of individuals to have the same wealth as the poorest 3 Billion people on the planet is only second to climate change in the problems we face.
I would have a RR if I could afford one. They are very comfortable places to sit.
Lots of jealousy coming out here in usual STW style - boring !
Their finances not yours !
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying it’s cheap, is good value for more or makes financial sense. Just that it’s slightly more attainable than made out above.
My other half has a RR, all singing all dancing model and I’ve never seen a more badly put together car. It’s a lovely place to sit if you have to do a long trip but it’s constantly got issues and costs a fortune to fix. It’s also worth next to bugger all now being an older model - I dread to think what the total cost of owning it has been.
Echo the comment above about normal cars though - she’s in the process of changing it and looked at the VW wigwam or whatever it’s called. With the options on it she wanted it was nearly £50k! £5k down and nearly £700 a month...mental
My boss has an svr rr sport in Lamborghini orange, apparently the only one specced with that paint in the country at the time, that cost him 9k extra. It's one hell of a piece of kit though and sounds ****ing awesome. I've been in it and it just doesn't feel right being that high up at that sort of acceleration/speed.
If I had the money I'd have the svr in the full rr version.
Where i live there is a lot of pheasant/ duck shooting, including an italian viscount who brought a local estate purely for the shooting rights. We cycle through the grounds and have never seen any lights on in the 28 bedroom house itself. When you see the shoots here, you can tell who owns the land and who works on the land, been driven across a ploughed field in an Overfinch Range Rover with all custom gun cabinets in teak and mahogany, lovely place to be and you could barely feel you were off road, hate to think how much it cost though.
Did always get a slight childish sense of smugness as i used to pull up next to a Range Rover owner on road who thought his was the largest Land Rover you could buy, in my old 101...
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Given the food banks and homelessness etc we have, the idea of such wealth strikes me as a bit obscene.
Given the food banks and homelessness etc we have, the idea of such wealth strikes me as a bit obscene.
I dont think they they care too much about that.
It does seem that as a society we’ve made a conscious decision that rather than combat inequality and poverty, or even acknowledge it, we’ll just cater to those that have instead, pandering exclusively to those with money by delivering ever more crass, vulgar and ostentatious ways to flaunt it.
If you wanted to pick one thing that summed that up perfectly, that quarter of a million quid Overfinch Range Rover would be ideal.
It’s all quite depressing really, isn’t it?
Spending that kind of wedge on a Ferrari/Lamborghini/Porsche I can understand (aside from the fact they won’t devalue like you’ve just driven them off a cliff by comparison), but a Range Rover…?!?!
Yeah but if your slightly portly better to step up into an armchair than drop into something you can’t get out of at your destination.
It does seem that as a society we’ve made a conscious decision that rather than combat inequality and poverty, or even acknowledge it, we’ll just cater to those that have instead, pandering exclusively to those with money by delivering ever more crass, vulgar and ostentatious ways to flaunt it.
Did you see that documentary a while ago about the 7* hotel in Dubai...?
You could buy gold-plated iPhones and diamond-encrusted handbags and all sorts of other wildly OTT rubbish just to show how much money you had to flaunt. The cars parked in the exclusive gold-plated garages made that Overfinch look cheap. Although they were still tacky and tasteless.
It does always amuse me though when i see someone in a £200,000 car stuck in the same queue of traffic as everyone else in their pauper-mobiles. Usually i see this as i'm crusing down the outside on a bicycle worth about £400.
Back in the day, the Overfinch offered a massive increase in performance over a standard RR. They used to swop the 3.5l Rover for a 5.7l Chevvy. It was a beast. They now seem to more about badges and trim.
Bugatti La Voiture Noire.
A snip at £9.5 million.
And I'm trying to justify spending £1500 on a Zafira GSI over a normal one at £700 as it might be a bit more fun to drive other than just boringly practical
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I did quite like Balotelli’s Bentley paintjob, just for the shear daftness of it. A sort of anti-bling
What's it look like?
Back in the day, the Overfinch offered a massive increase in performance over a standard RR. They used to swop the 3.5l Rover for a 5.7l Chevvy. It was a beast. They now seem to more about badges and trim
I think they got bought out by Khan.
They used to do power upgrades and major interior overhauls (like hunting set-ups) as well as some exterior stuff. Times changed and the money is was in the chav/footballer bodywork and interiors that Khan were doing rather than the "posh" stuff.
The car whole aftermarket tuning thing has changed massively as there are now very little gains to be had from what manufacturers get. Brabus and Alpina used to add major power to mercs and bmws, these days they are more about cosmetics. You can now buy an E-class with >600hp, there is not a lot left for someone else to get out of that! The V12 in the S65 can see up to 800hp. Admitedly Mercedes and JLR are doing a good enough job of chavving up their own cars these days.
I'm not a great fan of Boris Johnson's politics and I don't swallow his aimiable buffoon act, but when he was being harrassed by journalists at his home recently I couldn't but admire his choice of transport - a Toyota Previa, and an older one at that. He does have some class.
On the plus side, for every £180k spent, that’s £30k in VAT going into the public purse. The more of them they sell, the better.
RR are nice to be a passenger in though.
Think of those air shocks thinking at a billion milli secs like goose feather pillows tracking the ground.
Lurvely
