@RustyNissanPrairie - if its any consolation, thats a particularly horrible junction. I both drive it all the time and ride it, as its on the start of my regular road loop down the valley as you head up through Edenfield.
When riding it I take extra care, approach it at a crawl (not hard, its uphill) and never assume that a driver has seen me
Having driven it I know that the combination of the incline of the sliproad, the terribly positioned road furniture/signage (seriously... who designs these things?), the camber of the roundabout and the bridge mesh fencing combine to make visibility absolutely terrible. It's one of those junctions when you really should come to a dead stop at, as your visibility of approaching traffic is so poor.
Riding it in the other direction, however, is absolutely bloody brilliant. Its the polar opposite, as you're barrelling downhill, have excellent vision going into the roundabout, so it makes up the start of the hotly contested Strava segment 'The Chippy Run' (named because of the chippy on the bend at the bottom of the hill) 🙂
I know that roundabout well, and what Binners said.
It's difficult and all you can do is chalk it up to experience and know for next time. A couple of decades ago I was negotiating a double-roundabout on a motorway exit (J20 of the M6 where the Lymm truckstop is). I was late for work and wasn't taking prisoners. A truck was approaching the roundabout as I was getting to my exit, pretty much exactly what Street View shows here, I looked at the driver, the driver looked at me, we'd exchanged eye contact and both had clearly seen each other, then as I trod on the loud pedal for the exit he didn't break stride and just pulled straight out across both lanes into the inner lane of the roundabout. I went "FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU...!" and took about six months' worth of wear off my tyres leaving skid marks in at least three places.
The takeaway that day was, you can't trust people. "I'm pretty sure he's seen me" means nothing because a) there's the possibility that they haven't and b) there's the possibility that they have and simply don't give a damn.
I’m now extremely careful with our i3 in circumstances such as these. The A pillar is massive, literally big enough to lose a truck in it if it happens to be on the 3rd lane of a roundabout. I thin it’s to do with not having a b-pillar, having pillarless doors and being made of carbon fibre. The shells needs to be soo bloody huge to absorb the crash loads, it’s a real visual impairment even though, like most modern cars you seem to be a mile from the windshield.
Off topic, but why did you open a browser to go to a website for a Google Streetview rather than use the Google Maps app? Always confuses me why people do things like that.
It is like my wife who for some reason opens her browser, googles youtube videos then watches them in the browser rather than use the app.
I’m pretty sure he’s seen me” means nothing because a) there’s the possibility that they haven’t and b) there’s the possibility that they have and simply don’t give a damn.
Or they just have a brain fart and see you, but forget they have to do something about it.
danposs - I prefer to run everything in a browser because I have better control IMO - maybe Im wrong but I thats why I do it. Secure browser, no signing in, no cookies allowed
why did you open a browser to go to a website for a Google Streetview rather than use the Google Maps app?
Because I'm using a computer rather than a phone.
Or they just have a brain fart and see you, but forget they have to do something about it.
True, but, does it matter? We all make mistakes, but I'm sure "oops" will be a great comfort when they're retrieving me with a spatula.
... and if you believe you can manipulate an app to generate a link to Streetview which is postable on the forum, faster than I can do so using a keyboard and a browser, I'll take that challenge in a heartbeat (-:
I thought this post was reffering to myself , i nearly got nailed this morning on a crossing coming up to a roundabout .. all my own fault to be fair , sadly i carried on even though i usually hold my hands up and mouth an apology i knew i was stupid and in the wrong but did not want a fire breathing backlash of abuse .. live to ride another day 🙈
And indicators on new cars. Are they now mandated to be shit beyond any material useful function by construction and use regs?
What’s the problem with them? Assuming they’re used I don’t find them any worse on new cars?
What’s the problem with them? Assuming they’re used I don’t find them any worse on new cars?
They tend to be inboard of the front lights with clear lenses which makes trying to see them a pain in the arse when combined with DRLs.
Amber lenses on outboard lights were far superior. Then again, so were black ABS bumpers.
Am I the only one struggling with the term "nailed".
I was hoping for a tail of some alfresco flirting with a lycraclad superbabe interrupted by a cock blocking group of red socks.
Ah, I assumed it was a reply to me. Fair enough.
This is exactly how my Bizango got written off, luckily I was most of the way past by the time they made contact and I wasn’t injured but the back of the bike was goosed. Driver didn’t see me but his passenger did and she was screaming at him.
I wasn’t grumpy with him because my old 2 series was awful for it, when we first got it I nearly hit someone at a roundabout because I hadn’t gotten used to the blindspot and managed to lose a Vectra in there.
Cars with long sloping windscreens are the worst for it. My old 3 series was ace, windscreen was like a massive contact lens.
I've once been the cyclist getting nailed in this situation. was a complete surprise to the driver when my bum came smashing through his windscreen followed by a piked backflip onto my head behind his car. that was a rush!
the speed of the bike traveling round the roundabout matches the rotating angle of your car
I think its called "constant bearing" on boats?
on a ship, if you take a bearing of another ship, travelling across your path, and then after some time take another bearing and the bearing hasn't changed, the combination of speed and direction of both ships results in a collision course.
All well & good us knowing this, but your average Fwit in their 1T air conditioned piece of steel shite doesn’t give a hoot about cyclists enough to even give such things as this the time of the day.
We’re just a bloody inconvenience to a lot of them at best & barely worth the thought you’d give a stray dog.
Fkrs. Hate them…
(Yes some ****t nearly took me out tonight & I am not fing amused - if you hadn’t noticed…)