Just because something is old doesn’t mean it’s not good<br /><br />
that is true. <br /><br />
King Kong 1933 is a fairly good parallel I think. Still works today for me.
Just because something is old doesn’t mean it’s not good.
While I agree there was an editorial in the mag a few years back called
Just because it's old it doesn't mean it's not ****
Sometimes it's better not to meet your childhood heroes. Doesn't apply to Star Wars though. 🙂
Crispy bodies by the door!
I can be your backpack while you run
That video is my kids preferred version of Yoda (and maybe mine too TBH)...
Some parallels to this statement embodied in posters on this thread/site.
Ouch 😂
The first one is quite universal story about princess and knights but set in space. Plot twist about family issues in later films is lifted from tales of Greek gods, isn’t it?
My lad commented something like “it was a great adventure” about the first film when he saw it at about 10 years old. Later we both laughed at stupid plots in the prequels and sequels.
Somewhat related, I am really fascinated by people who really get into the lore and fan fiction about any series or movies. All the made-up details and theories and debates about the backstories, capabilities and motivations of the characters might be based on just one film. But who am I to judge, I ride bikes in the woods for entertainment.
My daughter, 7 at the time (11 now), really enjoyed it. She really didn’t like anything scary so I had to coax her through the early Darth Vader bits but once it properly got going she was really into it.
I tried her on Empire Strikes Back the next weekend and the buildup to meeting Yoda was too much and she bailed out. Sadly, this seems to be her abiding memory of all Star Wars now.
These days she refuses to watch anything we suggest. Though she did like the musical episode of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. The ‘in’ there was having heard me listening to it Spotify beforehand.
Oceanskipper nails it 😆
Death Star canteen is the best thing to come out of Star Wars 🤪
I think 6-7 is a bit young even if that was the age you first saw it, too many other media distractions these days. Pre teen is probably the sweet spot I think mine were about that age.
I turned the lights down and wound the volume up... A few seconds of black screen and then the orchestra came it Pah-pah! Kids jumped and started giggling. It's nothing more than music and scrolling text but it was quite a moment and from that point on they were hooked. We watched them in release order over a few weeks, my kids main comment was 'how did they get so old' the gap between trilogies wasn't decades for them.
My lad was 9 and caught COVID when the 10 day isolation rules were in place. We decided to watch the Star Wars on the first evening.
I was prepared to be disappointed in both my memory and his reaction but he loved it and we did one a night for 9 days. We all looked forward to 5pm on the dot when we shut laptops and he cranked up the volume for the opening theme tune.
Empire Strikes Back was a clear favourite for him. I'd never bothered with the last three after Phantom Menace put me off but I really enjoyed them.
I'd say he wasn't ready before 9, based on the 'scary' bits and the slower pace. Depends on the kids and what they are in to though.
OK. Sounds like maybe something to try in a few years. Maybe. Ta all.
I'm 41 and have never watched Star Wars.
Just don't get the whole sci-fi stuff.
I think kids need to be around 10 to really get it. Younger than that, they enjoy the action, but the story is too slow (and in some places excessively complicated) to keep their interest.
With both my kids I’ve watched them all, in the original order both times. My son was 12 when we watched them, and he watched them all, but is unlikely to watch them again. SF just doesn’t appeal to him.
This year, watched them with my daughter who is ten. She got right into the story, even regaling me with stuff about the politics in the prequels! It’s definitely planted a SF seed with her, as we watched the latest version of Dune a month ago, and she declared it the best film ever, and the Emperor really had it in for the Atreides. Most adults struggle to pick that up…
Both kids agreed that watching them in the original order was good because it kept the surprise. They said it would have also been hard to go from films with more modern, albeit it 25 year old, production values, to very old films and then back to current. They thought that would have stopped them watching past Ep 4.
It was a chore to watch the 1st time round.
Just because you suffered doesn’t mean they should too. 😉
Rollin’ like I’m platinum
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k9tgLnI0fFc
Honestly, the Bad Lip Reading take is better than Lucas or Disney.
I only watched them all for the first time a year ago. Im 39. First 6 were good. Last 3 were boring and didnt make much sense.
Girls of 8 and 6, lad of 3. Both girls are quite girly girls. None have watched anything like it before. The lad loves rockets and space. It would be fun to do some family film watching if they all enjoy it. Try or wait?
Watch Rebels. It grows with them. Ideal to get into at a young age.
You’ll find it too childish yourself at first, but it builds so, so well.
I’m pretty surprised at the dislike for Star Wars to be honest.
Every film is of its time but there are very few that are remembered with such fondness near on 50 years later.
This, really.
Star Wars was released in 1977, in made it to our shores the following year. I don't recall seeing it at the cinema but a mate and I watched it obsessively on hooky VHS. I remember like it was yesterday queuing up with my gran, all the way round the corner outside the cinema for ESB, I was well beyond excited. I'd have been, what, 8? They were giving out pin badges, I still have mine somewhere.
Curmudgeons bleating on about the prequels/sequels are missing the point. We are not the target audience here. Star Wars is a family film and at the time it came out there was nothing else like it. If it was released today it'd barely ripple because a) there's been a thousand imitators since and b) you're not a 7-year old.
The Phantom Menace is shit though.
Am I the only one that thinks the second of the prequels is shittier than Phantom Menace? At least the former had Darth Maul and the pod race bit. I can’t even remember the name of the second one off hand, Attack of the Clones?
I’ve never seen Star Wars (any of them), I think your kids can wait a few more years …
If you've never seen Star Wars how do you get any of the references in the Toy Story or the Lego movies?
It's a bit like being proud of having never read Shakespeare or Dickens. There may be better books out there but they all riff of each other.
Not showing Star Wars to your kids is neglect. And Monty Python too for that matter - else how do you explain the "Romans go home" graffiti by the Falkirk canal.
I tried ep4 with my kids last year (7 and 5), they didn’t like the early Darth Vader bits so leaving it a bit longer.
Look up “machete order”, it makes a good case for going 4, 5, 2, 3, 6 as a way to get the good Skywalker story without Jarjar and the other nonsense in 1.
The thing is, it’s not actually possible to legally buy or even watch the original Star Wars films anywhere, only the bastardised “Special Editions” that have been increasingly **** with over the years. So if you must watch them, do the kids a favour and do it properly, by which I mean obviously buy a Laserdisc player & whatever kit you need to hook it up to a modern telly, and source the originals on LD. (or just BitTorrent the LD rip 😃)
If you don’t mind downloading then seek out Harmy’s Despecialized Edition, they’re an amazing fan-made version of the original trilogy using the best available sources and an awful lot of work to have a high quality version that’s as true as possible to the originals.
No funky you are not, I agree completely and don't understand the hate for 1 for those 2 reasons.
St Crispy I agree which is why I likely will spend the few quid to by the blu-rays and sit them down with it at some point. Tbh, thinking back, the 5ish yo me didn't follow all the story but loved it anyway, an 8 yo me largely followed esb but I remember leaving the cinema thinking 'eh? Why are we leaving? The story hasn't finished!'
I can't really comment on 7-9, tried 7 and turned it off, same with 8, not tired 9, but I accept at 50 I'm not the target.... if sat with my kids I'd probably enjoy them.
Star wars was a western. Or maybe a rescue the Princess story. Or maybe something else . But also groundbreaking.
Loved it when 10.
Prequels were tosh.
Sequels were fun.
My kids liked the originals because they had story, although they found the effects goofy. But they also watched and liked journey to the centre of the earth and 20000 leagues, from about 1960, with even more goofy effects. They understood people couldn't do the stuff they can now, and they did the best they could with the tech of the day, and the crap effects don't make them bad films.
i think my children enjoyed the Lego Star Wars games more than the movies.
Or maybe a rescue the Princess story.
That might be doing the Leia character a disservice. A princess was rescued but despite her regal and political upbringing and imprisoning by some bad guys it becomes pretty clear she's a proper tough nut pretty quickly.
From her defiance in the face of Vader and Tarkin, her resistance to the mind probe (referred to by Tarkin), we go to the battle in the cell block where she quickly takes charge ("into the garbage chute Skywalker"), her sharpness with Solo and her obvious and cool leadership role in the rebellion. That theme continues throughout 4,5,6 through to Rise of Skywalker. Throughout the character is in harm's way and shows courage and composure but also compassion.
I think Leia is one of the original enduring cinematic female heroines. There was no weak and feeble swooning, no James Bond style 'save me' or leaping into bed, no hysterics.
Given the attitudes of the era in which it was made it stands out a little looking back compared to a lot of rather more male dominated stuff.
Look up “machete order”,
I linked to that on the first page.
Honestly, the Bad Lip Reading take is better than Lucas or Disney.
They're good, but the best 'reimagining' is:
Don't show it to your kids though.
