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if a wicket falls close to an interval (lunch, tea, end of play, probably drinks nowadays) then the interval is automatically taken then. I think it's 2 minutes, but in this case it was last over of the day anyway. They'll start with a 3 ball over.


 
Posted : 05/02/2021 9:56 pm
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Ta, makes sense I guess. I presume that in the (unlikely) event of the scenario being the last over of the last day with the batting team needing, say, 6 to win, the final few balls would be bowled?


 
Posted : 05/02/2021 11:01 pm
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yes, last day goes either to the end, (England vs Aus at Cardiff a few years back for example, with England hanging on while Aus needed one wicket - so literally the last ball could have won it) or in the case where with I think an hour or less to go the captains can agree that a draw is inevitable and agree to call it there.

Also, if the game is likely to reach a conclusion at the end of a session / day (not the last one) the 'winning' team can ask for an extra half hour to force the result, but this is with the umpires' consent eg: end of day 4 you need 10 more runs to win, you can play on to get them, and in the event that the the result isn't achieved that time is reduced from the next day. It's usually accepted because who wants to come back for 10 minutes tomorrow; can be contentious if eg: weather is forecast to be bad tomorrow and surviving the day might save the match.


 
Posted : 05/02/2021 11:20 pm
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Cheers for the explanation. Much appreciated.


 
Posted : 05/02/2021 11:36 pm
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Just woke up - Root and Stokes making hay! Excellent stuff.


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 7:32 am
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I'm preprogrammed to assume that I wake and check the score to find we've lost 5 wickets so this is most welcome!


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 8:07 am
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Indeed! ^^^^

Stokes gone now unfortunately


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 8:18 am
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ROOT ROOT ROOT

Another double century, the man is on fire.


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 9:27 am
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in a league of his own.....

Double centuries while captaining England men:

3: Joe Root
1: Hammond, Hutton, May, Dexter, Gower, Gooch, Cook


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 10:17 am
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Root gone! Hopefully Buttler will smack it around a bit now. 🙂


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 10:37 am
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"a perfectly normal finger" 😀


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 10:47 am
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500 up


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 11:06 am
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Posted : 06/02/2021 11:15 am
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Archer out batting in a watch and his bowling sleeve, no interest in hanging around.


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 11:34 am
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I've seen him play impressively brutal cameos in the IPL but he's never come off in tests yet I don't think.


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 11:40 am
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doomed now! ending the day on quintuple nelson!


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 12:20 pm
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Archer out batting in a watch

Wasnt it Phil Edmonds who always bowled wearing a watch?


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 12:49 pm
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so did Gough, iirc.

Actually, that's something I've often thought. Bowling fast involves using your shoulder muscles to rotate your arm (I know there's also the coil and core / interstitials, etc. but shoulder is part of it)

Having a weight at the end of your arm means more effort for the same rotational speed, or alternatively, same effort (max for a quick most of the time) for less result.

Same why a 100m sprinter feels he'll be faster while transporting half a shelf of Gerald Ratner's finest down the track with him. Surely any weight saved would be sensible?


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 3:29 pm
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What a great day for England. The pitch is misbehaving already. Kohli burnt a couple of silly reviews today, which nearly cost him.


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 4:04 pm
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Draw is the favourite now but England have a really good chance. If they can get a couple of early wickets and the pitch misbehaves that score starts to look a very long way away. India's batting lineup is impressive though.


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 5:06 pm
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In general batters lose games, bowlers win them (which is what makes innings like Botham 81 or Stokes 19 so amazing)

With almost 600 on the board England should not lose this, but the bowlers have a heck of a load to do yet. Particularly, having made India's bowlers toil for 2 and a bit days to win this we might need to take 20 wickets in a follow on which would mean ours also have to spend best part of three days out there.


 
Posted : 06/02/2021 5:16 pm
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Couple of early ish wickets from Archers but it's still delicately balanced - Archer is looking fantastic but has already bowled eight overs. Anderson hasn't been quite as good but great to see him bowling to Kohli - two greats.

Kohli gone! Bess! Yassss

Edit: Rahane gone for 1! Incredible catch from Root

India are in trouble here


 
Posted : 07/02/2021 8:23 am
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Want us to get Pant out, but also enjoying it while he's in.


 
Posted : 07/02/2021 9:34 am
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Indeed. Good counter-attack from Pant but he plays risky shots fairly regularly. What a match so far.


 
Posted : 07/02/2021 9:44 am
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And this is why TalkSPORT shouldn’t be allowed test cricket.
Tune in and it’s Goughy talking betting odds followed by adverts for a gambling company. Terrible radio.
I want Aggers and Tuffers.


 
Posted : 07/02/2021 10:06 am
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Listen to the social on the BBC cricket website


 
Posted : 07/02/2021 10:15 am
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Just have c4 sound on with the screen off/brightness down if you can't watch.

We need Pant out. When can they take the new ball?


 
Posted : 07/02/2021 10:18 am
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Pant and Pujara gone, just need to finish off the tail.


 
Posted : 07/02/2021 11:25 am
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Ashwin's no mug - bit to do yet.


 
Posted : 07/02/2021 11:29 am
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Wasnt it Phil Edmonds who always bowled wearing a watch?

Only later in his career when he was trying to make a point about how well he was doing in The City. I can thoroughly recommend 'A lot of hard yakka' by Simon Hughes for Edmonds anecdotes.

Goughy

Well, he spent ten years doing a barely believable impersonation of an international opening bowler, so carrying on by impersonating a knowledgeable pundit seems a logical extension.

I'm still not a fan of Bess. He has a golden arm at the moment, but he bowls an awful lot of filth in there too. He may well get found out soon if one of the games becomes tight and he needs to take wickets and also keep it tight on a turning pitch.


 
Posted : 07/02/2021 4:37 pm
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Anyone watching? Root is 26 off 14! Very poor review by Lawrence just now though, 3 down.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 8:43 am
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England doing their very best to lose this.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:05 am
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How many can India chase on this pitch? You'd think 450 would be defendable but I'm not sure how much less than that I'd be comfortable with.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:39 am
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I reckon the Indians would have a go at 400 off 3.5 sessions. The pitch should favour us and I’d fancy us to get a wicket or 2 before COP this evening. But if they start tomorrow 65/0 then it’ll be a tasty final day.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 9:59 am
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They've got more than enough now, I think it's more about resting the bowlers as long as possible.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:08 am
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England doing their very best to lose this.

How so? Going into the second innsings with a 250ish first innings lead they just want to score as quickly as possible to make the target as awkward for India as possible, while leaving themselves enough time to take another 10 wickets.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:11 am
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get on with it or put them in.... time is always more important than runs in the final innings


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:55 am
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this isn't one day cricket, if you have to you can bowl outside leg with a packed in -out legside field and squeeze the life out of the game.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 10:57 am
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How so? Going into the second innsings with a 250ish first innings lead they just want to score as quickly as possible to make the target as awkward for India as possible, while leaving themselves enough time to take another 10 wickets.

But England haven't done that. I posted just after Stokes was caught and it was starting to look like we'd be bowled out with a realistic target for Indians to chase. Although we've steadied the ship somewhat, we've done so without any aggression and instead dawdled our way towards a 400 lead. England have done this many times before as we seem more inclined to avoid losing the game instead of trying to win in.

Although I stll favour England for the win - just - I can see India getting a draw and taking a pscychological lead into the second test where they surely won't play as badly as they have here.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 11:13 am
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this is nuts


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 11:14 am
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It appears Jack Leach is going for it. Not sure I saw him as he pinch hitter but there we go.
My suspicion is that this is the first test of the series and they're making sure they won't lose it rather than making sure they win it. It'll be a very conservative declaration.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 11:22 am
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letting Joffra get his 50 :/


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 11:25 am
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Can’t figure this out. Why risk your bowlers out there for no real scoring necessity?
A quick ball onto an elbow or finger and you’re a bowler down when you need to take 10 wickets in little over a day. It’s odd.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 11:27 am
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didn't even get to declare!!!!


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 11:31 am
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England have done this many times before as we seem more inclined to avoid losing the game instead of trying to win in.

I'm inclined to agree that we should have enough / can defend it if needed, however having done many hard yards already with bat and ball there's a mindset that says that you absolutely don't want to give a sniff of a victory to india; not only do you lose the game but the team and the bowlers in particular lose faith in the captain and coach for giving it away.

Especially in the first match of a series


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 11:33 am
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I can't work out why they didn't just attack at the end, could have got to this score a few overs ago probably.

But then Root gets questioned all the time even though his record is pretty decent.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 11:33 am
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that turned!


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 12:06 pm
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But then Root gets questioned all the time even though his record is pretty decent.

I think his declarations have generally worked out, plus I note that former players seem to become rather braver from the safety of the commentary box.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 2:56 pm
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Yep - Cook the renowned risky declarer, NOT!

My head says England will bowl them out, but I’m not sure...... Broad would be handy on an up&down day 5 pitch.


 
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I think his declarations have generally worked out, plus I note that former players seem to become rather braver from the safety of the commentary box.

Indeed
https://twitter.com/AWSStats/status/1358757258209992704


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 3:19 pm
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A question posed on Twitter that I thought I'd throw out here:
"Who is the greatest batsman to play for England and why is it KP?"


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 3:21 pm
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Anderson, archer, leach, Bess, stokes and a bit of spin from root looks a good attack to me.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 3:23 pm
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KP could/should have been, but his utter refusal to adapt to situations goes against him. I think Root is learning that skill right now, same as Stokes.


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 3:52 pm
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I like Bess and Leach, but their lack of cricket is showing in their poor lengths. Stokes looks a little rusty too - so knowing him he will bag a 5-fer now!


 
Posted : 08/02/2021 3:54 pm
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JIMMY!


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 6:09 am
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highly enjoyable


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 8:09 am
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Good to wake up to.

The cynic in me says this looks like a these two could hang on to the end

As you were - Ashwin gone!


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 8:33 am
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And with that Stokes delivery keeping low, we're now 2 wickets from victory!


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 8:47 am
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One needed!


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 8:51 am
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Review for hit wicket..


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 8:57 am
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Not out, the bail fell off.


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 8:58 am
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Yeah!


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 9:09 am
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The massive fuss over not declaring turned out to be totally unwarranted eh!

What an absolute legend Jimmy Anderson is. Those off stumps cartwheeling for the first two wickets - fantastic. Amazing ball from Stokes to take out Kohli and India's last chance of resistance.

Best test match performance I've ever seen from England.


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 9:11 am
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Brilliant performance


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 9:36 am
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Theres always a media argument over declarations. Its rare teams survive 3.5 sessions to draw on an Indian pitch.


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 9:41 am
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Superb performance. Winning in India is the most formidable challenge for any touring test team.


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 10:14 am
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Let’s win every toss & bat first 👍👍
You still need to perform, but it certainly helps out there.


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 10:25 am
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Brilliant performance

It was, but at some point we'll lose the toss and Root will get a low score.


 
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Been clearing snow and gritting since 05:00 today, been great to listen to this as I was doing so. Awesome performance from Anderson


 
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It was, but at some point we’ll lose the toss and Root will get a low score.

Which, in turn, will mean Leach and Bess will need to take wickets and keep the scoring rate down at the same time.

But you can only play the game as it is at that point in time, so it is an excellent win and should be treated as such. The players are so grounded this days that they know this.


 
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Which, in turn, will mean Leach and Bess will need to take wickets and keep the scoring rate down at the same time.

But you can only play the game as it is at that point in time, so it is an excellent win and should be treated as such. The players are so grounded this days that they know this.

Oh sure. It's just that I'm too traumatized by following England through the 90s to allow myself to get excited yet.


 
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following England through the 90s

That is like saying 'MacBeth' in a theatre. You need to do something now to lift the curse.

<Shudders>


 
Posted : 09/02/2021 12:31 pm
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Moeen got Kohli with a great ball and is getting some good turn but also getting tonked for lots of runs.

India coming back well after a good start for England.


 
Posted : 13/02/2021 10:19 am
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Anyone noticed how clean Foakes is behind the stump. Buttler has improved no end but Foakes is different gravy.


 
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This looks like a fun place to bat. All over by tomorrow lunchtime? Maybe sooner.


 
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Foakes. Yes, wonderful. Must...not...mention....batting...or....will...jinx!

This pitch though. Not good for test cricket in my opinion, I don't mind a pitch doing this on day 4 and 5, after the game's been set up, but before lunch on D2 is wrong. I know the argument is that it's the same for both sides but it's such a home track really.

And it's another lockdown derived situation; they could be refunding 2 or 3 days of advance ticket sales, which is why we can't return the favour in home tests. I know there is a crowd in but it's probably what, 25% of the capacity. If we prepared green seamers every time we needed a result the grounds / counties don't make the money that keeps them alive. I wonder if the ICB has to refund some TV money for allowing a pitch that'll see this done in <3 days?


 
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I think the pitch is a result of back to back test meaning it was uncovered and being baked during the last test. It's poor situation though and I'd be saying the same if England had won the toss.


 
Posted : 14/02/2021 10:16 am
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1110 7 to save the follow on


 
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yay avoided the follow on !


 
Posted : 14/02/2021 10:28 am
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This umpiring is abysmal. Trust me, I opened the batting for years at club level, no reviews or DRS and for the first 10 overs my bat was tucked way behind my pad with no intent of playing at it, and I know what no shot looks like.


 
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