Meanwhile, the Aussies complain about sledging and are then rumbled for ball tampering.
just heard it on R5 - cripes. Especially as it's admitted that the 'senior' leadership team were all complicit in it (but the coaches didn't know apparently)
And Steve Smith is such an honest likeable cricketer.
In other news they've complained about the verbals they're getting from the crowd. Never been in front of Bay 13?
And they're getting humped. Oh, what a time to be alive!
Such a shame . Senior players all involved. I hope they get utterly hammered punishment wise . Disgraceful.
The Aussies really have taken it to a whole new level haven't they? What is particularly pleasing is how they run off and complain when they're on the receiving end!
at least the South African's have some back bone and have reciprocated to a degree, unlike the English who probably spent their time apologising and agreeing, hence the 4-0 test score line.
Preplanned ball tampering, with the senior players all complicit, that's got to be at least a series ban, if not more if the ICC want to remove this 'not cricket' behaviour and attitudes from the game. Personally, I'd ban Australia competing at any level for at least a year.
Ban Hammer
That was also inexcusable, however you can argue that was done in isolation and in desperation using some dust off the ground. Taking a bit of (sandpaper?) out, giving it to a junior player to actually do the deed, he then hid the article from the umpires after the 12er had given him a message (from the coaches? who they claim weren't involved) and showed them his soft pouch glasses case.
Deliberate, planned and even then tried to hide it, and possibly still lying. Throw the book.
Dust is not artificial and he was not seeking to alter the condition of the dry and roughed-up ball, but maintain the condition it had already reached.
if memory serves 🙃
funny that he has to wipe the dust off on his shirt after smearing it on the ball 🙂
I really want an england cap like athers is wearing
Aussies are bang to rights on this one, pre-meditated and what could turn out to be the whole team and coaches involved. Maybe.
i wonder what lesson Steve Smith has learnt from this? So they can move on...
i don't suppose any bookies are involved? Just for the added ban factor!
I so cannot wait to see the Australians’ weekly sports review programme on this in about an hour’s time. Absolutely breathtaking stupidity on their part.
I reckon they will not be much sympathy there
Not so much at the SMH either.
Good to see that the serious sports journalists here still have some ability to be impartial.
...actually I’ve done my adoptive countrymen a great disservice in doubting their sportsmanship as a nation. Just strayed onto bogan FM (TripleM) Facebook page. They’re as pissed off as anyone actually. I was expecting to see significant downplaying of it there. Smith is toast.
In fact, from scanning my various Australian news feeds this morning it’s clear that any vitriol should be aimed squarely at the team alone. I’m yet to see a single comment defending them or deflecting from this in any way. It seems the whole of Australia wants Smith’s head. Now.
Analysis: Steve Smith is 'embarrassed' again — and he may well lose his captaincy
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-25/ball-tampering-steve-smith-embarrassed-may-lose-captaincy/9584488
Yep, that is the level headed version
As Headline-tastic as this is everybody cheats in many various ways at top level sport.
Footballers dive , Athletes, Cyclists, Baseballers and Swimmers take drugs, American Footballers use a not properly inflated ball. Rugby Union is all about breaking the laws of the game and getting away with it if you can.
It all makes for great news and conversations in the pub and at the water cooler and the Australian Cricket team are the gift that keeps on giving.
I seem a little to the party , but a little rule bending is normal in our world
Felt compelled to return to the old STW to see what you all were making of this, and to give my 2-cents worth of course... What a debacle eh? What were they bloody thinking?? Just.... words fail me as to the stupidity of it, WHY DO IT!!?? WHHHHHHHHHY!!!!!????
Smith has openly admitted that the 'leadership group' (there's an oxymoron) sat down and came up with the plan, to bloody well CHEAT in a Test Match to gain an advantage through ball tampering (not that it worked). Yes, in some eyes/ways it could be perceived as pretty innocuous really and could be argued as a 'storm in a teacup' but, really... using a foreign object, brought specifically on to the field of play, in an attempt to alter the condition of the ball in order to gain an advantage; that's just effing BS and totally completely 100% indefensible.
Smith must lose the Captaincy, and really, I would expect that he and anyone else directly involved will be immediately dropped from the team and sent home in disgrace (bloody economy class to!). How and when they can return to the squad, I don't know. This shouldn't be career ending, but there does need to be a hefty price to pay for the disrepute they've brought Australian Cricket into, it's appalling
Ah psychle, welcome back mate. This year’s ashes on here wasn’t quite the same without you giving it back to us 🙂
Yup, Aussie press not holding back: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-25/how-will-australian-cricket-restore-its-reputation/9584862
Well that is the minimum they could have done today, there will be some sledging today
Welcome back, psychle, hope you're well!
Pissweak response, and it seems most of Australia agrees. I only hope the formal investigation is swift and decisive.
Aussie fans may be one-eyed, but they hate cheats. This will not end well.
I'd say acceptable, until the end of the match, pulling out by dropping the team would be bad for SA and the people who have paid to be there. Decisive action at the conclusion is required, by the reaction when it was spotted the coaching staff may not be immune from this one. Sounded like Smith was trying to protect them
and with that it appears Root got out on the last ball of the test where everyone is laughing at the Aussies, 1 day, 7 wickets and 237 needed in some combination for the draw
Aussie fans may be one-eyed, but they hate cheats. This will not end well.
Yup, I’m still yet to see anything from anyone defending them, particularly the premeditation and throwing ye of heavy head under the bus. Offsiders (ABC’s weekly sports round up) was scathing. Even the PM has been at it.
So Smith and Warner are standing down but still playing in the test and Smith been sacked as skipper of his IPL team, this is going to be fun!
Bancroft meant to be playing for Somerset this season too...
One question I do have is where does this leave Mitchell Starc's swinging ball of the century of a few months' back?!
pulling out by dropping the team would be bad for SA and the people who have paid to be there
Australia does have more than 11 cricketers. They could just pick some others.
not for the remainder of the match really and making them go back out is probably first step in a punishment cycle.
Anyway just heard PM Malcolm just in case anyone was wondering that is him very very disappointed, not angry just very disappointed
Bancroft meant to be playing for Somerset this season too
If the invitation is not withdrawn, I will be going along to boo him at Taunton.
not angry just very disappointed
Thats what I admonish my 4yo with when she’s been particularly naughty 😂
but, really… using a foreign object, brought specifically on to the field of play, in an attempt to alter the condition of the ball in order to gain an advantage; that’s just effing BS and totally completely 100% indefensible.
To this can I add instructing* the junior player to actually do it, possibly because he's the one that least focus would be on.
* he could and should have told them to sod off, of course but the pressure that was potentially put on him, we might never really know. At least Smith had the honesty to say it was a senior player plan; Bancroft can't and won't accept censure but let's not condemn him absolutely until we really know what his role was in the debacle.
accept = escape
seems their 2nd innings is going quite well - maybe some of ours should try getting caught cheating
I was a little worried that since retiring KP might not know what to do with himself, It's OK he has an opinion!!
He has a point. Let’s be honest - this will hardly be the first & only time this has happened. Journos will now be scouring archives for more footage
how come england picked an allrounder who couldn't bowl ?
If you are talking Stokes I’d suggest his batting form alone gets him in the team - a genuine all-rounder.
This will be the sixth match in a row - including the entire Ashes - in which England have failed to take 20 wickets.
Winless and 9 defeats in there last 11 test matches probably 10 in 12 after today( I'm in NZ and off to watch) stretching back to October 2016. No answer to the opening partnership issue for three years, No potential replacements for the ageing Anderson and Broad No established No3 and No spinner who can actually turn the ball picked in the side. It's been great fun supporting English cricket recently.
But at least we don't cheat. Not all the time.
